Developer 6.0 WebForms display problems

Well, looking at all the submissions here regarding fonts, etc., I don't think I'm alone here.
I am trying to migrate a Forms 4.5 application to Forms 6.0 so that I can use WebForms to run it over the Web. I'm using Developer 6.0 with Patch 5A applied, against OAS 4.0.7.1 on NT 4.0 SP 3 and a 8.1.5 database.
Before I applied the patch, I had the following problems:
- Icons on buttonbar were clipped around the edges, but appeared centred.
- Embedded images didn't display at all.
- A form using Verdana font for small text didn't display it's text.
- A login window appeared in the centre of the screen (OK).
After I applied the patch, the embedded images did display - yeeeehaaaa! However, I still have the following problems:
- The icons on the buttonbar now are indented from the left, with about 2mm of button that just wont show my image, with the image now off to the right and pushed upwards (worse than before!)
- The Verdana font still doesn't display, and I've tried adding it to the Registry.dat file to map it to a Java font. I might try using the FORMS60_DEFAULTFONT entry in the registry as mentioned elsewhere here (anyone tried this?)
- The login window is now "jammed" up into the top left of the Applet so that I can't see the input fields and can't move the window as I can't click its title bar (NOT OK).
If anyone has had similar problems, I'd like to hear from you - especially if you found how to fix any of these problems! If you've found that they're "unsolveable", I'd like to know that too.
In the last few years, I've been to SO many Oracle seminars/conferences, etc to hear them saying that WebForms works and is the only enterprise solution, etc. Why then, do they still have cosmetic problems with their product when it comes to things as simple as images on toolbars? I agree with others that they do not appear to be living up to their "hype".

Well, I haven't received any replies, but I have managed to find the cause and some solutions to some of the problems I mentioned.
I'm still having problems with the icons on the buttonbar having a left indent-type effect. Although, I can make it look bearable by modifying the images a bit.
The reason my login dialog was not being centred was to do with the Form using FORMS_MDI_WINDOW to get the width and height dimensions of the window in calculating where to place it. This works fine in the client-server version, but not the WebForms version. It appears to return 0. As this worked fine in the initial pre-patch version, my guess is that it was OK then, but not since Patch 5A was installed. I have worked around this for the time being by testing for dimensions of 0 and using an assumed size of 700x400 by default.
I managed to get the text on the Form using Verdana font to display afterall, although not in Verdana font as it maps to a Java font anyway. The problem wasn't actually with the Verdana font, it was that the canvas and item had large widths specified (so as to force scrollbars) and the text was actually way off to the left where it was not visible within the Java window. After I set the width to a value nearer to the windows width, I could see the text.
Although there can be problems when the window is resized as it doesn't "anchor" the content using the left side and provide scrollbars to go left and right to see all the content. It seems to try and make the field with current focus remain in the window, regardless if it means "hiding" the rest of the canvas. This may be a case of Java's Layout Managers not working the same as Windows?
I hope this helps others with similar problems. And if anyone has any ideas on my outstanding issues, I'd appreciate any emails.
Gene

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