DIFFERENCES IN BACKFLUSHING.
Hello SAP Gurus,
Please tell me the differences between backflushing in discrete manufacturing and REM Backflush.
Looking for your early feedback.
Regards,
Kaushik.
Dear Kaushik Basu,
what's backflushing?
The non-manual posting of an issue of components some time after their physical withdrawal for an order.
The goods issue posting for backflushed components is performed automatically at the time of order
completion confirmation.
Backflushing in REM:
1.There are 3 types of backflush
Assembly backflush - GI,GR& activities(operations) get's posted(As per the REM Profile
settings).Document is generated.
Component backflush - Only GI is carried out ,that's 261 movement alone is carried out & a document is
generated.
Activity backflush - only the operation or activities get's posted and no document will be generated in this
case.
No need to set the backflush indicator in the material master or work center.
Backflushing in Discrete:
Set the backflush indicator for those components for which automatic GI is to be carried out at the time of
operation comepletion confirmation in the material master MRP2 view.
So for these items manual GI is not be carried using T code MB1A.
use of backflush:
Indicator: Backflush
Determines whether the backflush indicator is set in the production order. Here, a 3-level hierarchical logic is applied:
1. In the routing, the backflush indicator is set in the component assignment.
2. In the material master record, the backflush indicator has the characteristic "Always backflush".
3. In the material master record, the backflush indicator has the characteristic "Work center decides", the indicator being set in the work center.
Use
Each material component is assigned to an operation in the production order. If a material component is backflushed, the system posts the withdrawal only upon confirmation of the operation. The withdrawal is then posted automatically.
Regards
Mangalraj.S
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Can anybody explain the difference between backflush indicator 1 and 2.
I know about 1. But not abt 2.
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anujahHi,
In simple words
When backflush indicator is 1: The material is always backflushed. You opt for this option when the material is to be backflushed always.
When backflush indicator is 2: It depends on the work center, i.e. a component is tied to a operation & the operation contains a work center. So if this work center has the backflush indicator ticked, the component will be backflushed, if it is not ticked the component will not be backflushed. In CR03 you can check if the work center has backflush indicator. You opt for this if a component is placed close to certain work centers & there backflushed in those, where-as in other work centers it is not.
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Hi Gurus.....Could some one please explain what exactly makes the difference between a component & assembly backflush in REM. Also can some one explain if the assembly backflush would be applicable only for a single level or multi level BOM components?
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1. Assembly backflush - GR(131) & GI(261) & activities will get posted (If in REM profile check box for
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2. Component backflush - Only 261 movement for the component's will be taking place and a material
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Difference between three types of product costs
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can any bode explain the what is the difference between product cost by period, product cost by sale order and the third one is there and also please esplain the master recipeDear Kavya,
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Product cost Collector:
1.Product Cost collector is one of the master data in REM scenario.
2.Product Cost collector is used as a cost object in REM scenario,which means all the cost will be booked under this product
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4.This product cost collector will be having an order number which will be used for order settlement and variance calculation.
5.For creating a product cost collector you will require a production version.
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2.Master Recipe:
This comes under PP-PI,where Process order's are used for production.
The master recipe is used for the manufacture of products or for rendering services.
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A master recipe contains process control data that can be stored in the following way:
· in the form of characteristic-based process instructions, which you define in the operation overview for the phases.
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Reporting point backflush and milestone confirmation
hello pp experts,
if we have the option of milestone confirmation then why do we use reporting point backflush, actually what's the difference between them?Dear,
If u do confirmation without RP it is like order level confirmation co15 in discrt all teh opeation is confirmed at once.Here u canot use operation wise.
So in REM we use MFBF reporting point back flush like CO11n which carried out on operation basis as milestone operation is confirm previous also get confirm.
To see the RP overview after confiramtion at each RP u can use MF26, this will give WIP qty to be conformed at each reporting point.
Hope clear to you.
Regards,
R.Brahmankar -
Hi
I have a control recipe destination for PI sheet with goods issue process instruction with filter for backflushing items only.
And in the BOM I have semifinished product and packaging product which are backflushed in the recipe.
Scenario:
1. If in tx: O10c , the scope is 01(for all reservations), then only the packaging material show up in the PI sheet
2. If in tx: O10c , the scope is 03:(for all reservations and order item), then both the packaging and semifinish material show up in the PI sheet
Can any one help me understand what is the difference in reservation item and order item in the process order, as all the master data settings are same for both the materials, just the material type is different in my case.
Thanks in advance
-Rahulhi
you can make modifible field without pi assistant as follows
1)create a instruction category with instruction type 2
if you have already created one assign the following chrecterstics as follows
2)pppi_data_request_type:- value simple data rquest
pppi_message _category:- value as per your requirement ie sending mail, gi , gr like that
pppi_input_request:- value :-write charectestic name
ppppi_requested_value:- value:- enter charectersic which you created
create the above .and assign at controll receipe
any further calrifiaction do inform me. IF clarified reward me.
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vst-IT -
Production Order backflush does not occur
Hi Gurus,
PLease help on the below issue.
In my company, all the components in the production are using backflush. When GR the production order, the backflush will be automatic.
Issue is we found one order did not backflush after GR. Other orders with same material did backflush well.
I checked the reservation agains the problem order, I found the only difference is that the reservation item is from 10.
The item number of reservations in those good orders is from 01.
I am not quite sure if this is the reason.
If it is, how system worked like this and how to resolve it, please suggest.
If i am wrong, please direct me the right way.
Thanks for your help.
BryanHi Bryan
1.Check whether you have set backflush ind for all those material or not. if set then check COGI.
2.This case arises if you are doing backflush through customizing i. e. through oder confirmation parameter you set Goods mov All comp is set. Then you wont required backflush to be set in Material master but at the time of confirmation if dont go to goods movenent screen then this material will not be backflush.
Check it out
Regards
Abhijit Gautam -
What is the difference between reporting point backfluch and an ordinary B/F.
How will a RP backflush help in arriving at the WIP of an order..
Please explain me...Hi,
Reporting Point Backflush
It makes sense to use this function if:
· You work with longer lead times, but want to withdraw the components closer to the time they are required for the operation.
· You want to calculate work in process.
· You want to backflush scrap quantities at the corresponding operation.
If you use reporting point backflushing, the system backflushes all material components that have been consumed and posts the activities carried out at the reporting point operation. It reduces the dependent requirements in the planned orders and updates the statistics in the LIS.
You can use either the mandatory or the optional reporting point backflush.
It makes sense to use the optional reporting point backflush if you usually only backflush at the end of the production process, but you also want to be able to backflush scrap directly at the operation. In addition, the optional reporting point can be used to carry out a WIP calculation at the end of a period.
If you use mandatory reporting point backflushing, you post the quantity that is on the production line at that point in time, for each reporting point. You receive a document for each reporting point. Mandatory reporting point backflush guarantees maximum control over the operation, however, it is more time-consuming.
When you carry out the WIP posting you are temporarily working in mandatory reporting point backflush processing because WIP value entry is carried out in the same way in both optional and mandatory reporting point backflush.
Prerequisites
· You must assign a suitable repetitive manufacturing profile in the material master record to be able to backflush a material using either the mandatory or the optional reporting point backflush function.
· You must set the optional or the mandatory reporting point backflush in the repetitive manufacturing profile.
· This type of backflushing corresponds to milestone confirmation. Therefore, in the routing, you must select a control key which has indicator 1 (= milestone confirmation) in the confirmation field.
· You must enter the routing in the production version of the material. The system first looks for the routing entered in the detailed planning section. If no entry exists here, the system then uses the routing from the rate-based planning section.
· You have carried out a standard cost estimate or a cost estimate based on versions. The version-based cost estimate, which can be carried out at smaller intervals than the standard cost estimate, is recommended.
Normal Backflush
Component Backflush.
If you confirm an order / operation with components that have the Backflushing indicator set, the system automatically posts a goods issue for these components. For more information about the Backflushing indicator, refer to the end of this section.
Automatic Goods Receipts.
You can specify in the control key of an operation, that the system should automatically post the finished material to stock when the operation is confirmed. A posting is also carried out for a partial confirmation.
An automatic goods receipt can only be posted for one operation per order. You should therefore make sure that only one operation in the order (normally the last operation) has a control key that specifies automatic goods receipt.
Automatic goods receipt can be activated by the production scheduling profile. It is always carried out during the confirmation of the last operation that requires confirmation. However, the indicator in the production scheduling profile is ignored as soon as one of the operations in the order has a control key that specifies automatic goods receipt.
The following applies to production scheduling profiles:
The Production Scheduling Profile is defined in Customizing
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If several operations in an order have a control key that specifies automatic goods receipt, the system issues a warning message when you confirm one of them. No automatic goods receipt posting is carried out to prevent the goods receipt from being posted more than once. In this case, you have to post the goods receipt manually.
Regards,
Vijay Mankar
Edited by: Vijay Mankar on Aug 26, 2010 3:44 PM -
MFBF and MF70 for component backflush
There is an option "component backflush" in MFBF for goods issue and there is a "post goods issue" option in MF70.
what is the difference? aren't they both the same? if yes, then what extra functionality does MF70 provide?
ThxDear in REM scenario there are 3 types of backflush,
1.Assembly backflush(normally GR,GI and activities are posted - 131,261 and activites are posted) or vice versa like 132,262.
2.Component backflush(normally GI alone happens - 261/262 happens)
3.Activity backflush(only the operations are posted)
Yes you can use component backflush tab to post GI after GR without using MF70(incase of GI backflush at GR posting is unchecked in OSP2)
cheers
KK
Edited by: kiran kumar on Oct 14, 2010 10:23 PM -
Difference between Discerete & Repetitive Manufacturing
Hi ,
Can Any one explain to me about difference between Discreet & Repetitive Manufacturing.
Regards
GomsDear Gomathi Nayagam,
Discrete Scenario:
1.Order Based production & Product produced (Finished product) is changed more number of times.
2.Order Based Cost calculation.
3.Varying sequence of operations - complex routing.
4.Material staging will be based on individual order.
5.Order completion & confirmation carried out for individual order or operation.
6.After MRP run Planned order's are obtained which can be converted into Production order (for E products)
Required Master Data:
1. Material Master
2.BOM
3.Work Center
4.Routing
5.Production version (not mandatory).
REM Scenario:
1.Period Based production where ceratin quantity is produced per period.
2.Period based cost collection using Product Cost Collector.
3.Steady flow through production - continous production - simple rate routing/routing.
4.Material staging is done periodically.
5.Production confirmation done periodically - Assembly backflush.
6.After MRP run Planned order's are obtained as Run Schedule quantity for Inhouse manufacured products
which can't be converted into production order's.
Required Master Data:
1. Material Master with REM profile assigned for all the Inhouse Manufactured products.
2.BOM
3.Work Center
4.Rate Routing.
5.Production version & Product Cost Collector - mandatory - for all products (Inhouse manufactured).
I hope this will give you a clear idea about 2 scenario's.
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Mangalraj.S -
Difference between transfer?
hi,
what is the difference between subinventory and backflush transfer? with some examples will be good.
regards
sudharshanSub Inventory transfer is the transfer of material between the 2 sub inventories in the same organization.
Where as Backflush transfer releated to Work in Process i.e. when there is a move transaction in WIP from one stage to other ( Eg: from TO QUEUE to TO MOVE) the ONHAND related to the material will get consumed depends on how the supply type ( Operation pull, PUSH..) is set up in the routings.
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Difference between Repetitive and Descreet manufacturig
Hi All,
Can anybody please explain me the difference between repetitive and descreet manufacturing with example. Also how does it effects routing/bom.
ThanksHi
Difference between discrete and repetitive manufactruring is quite simple so in discrete you usually make products witch are make to order type like air craft industry. Discrerte manufacturing is usually for orderbound production.
In repetivive manufacturing usually products are more likely make to stock type like in cosmetics or ice cream factory.
Production order based
1. Production in individual production orders
2. Product change frequently
3. Complex process sicnce the sequence of work centers is varying
4. There was no storage location for semi product, there are always put into interim storage
5. Components will always reference to order
6.There will have status prosesing for each order in each transaction
7. Order confirmation must be carry out for each production order otherwise it remain in WIP.
8. Order based cost controlling
While for repetitive manufacturing
1. Production on period based
2. Product produced unchanged over a longer period of time
3. Simplify process sicnce product produce unchanged
4. Semifinish product post into own storage location
5. componnet are stage at each production lines
6. Reduce control effort (no status procedure)
7. Period based backflush
8. Period base cost controlling
I hope this answers your question.
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Srinivas -
Ok so I believe I know the answer here but asking anyway.
What is the difference between the adobe creative cloud team license vs the adobe creative cloud enterprise license?
is the team licence basically individually licences products per account users?
and is the enterprise one license that covers multiple users at once?
Thanks and sorry for the question but had to verify.Hi tbirdbrent ,
Thank you for posting on the forums, the answer to your question is as follows.
1) Creative Cloud for teams brings together the very latest Creative Cloud desktop apps, updates and upgrades the moment they’re released, and all of the services and business features your team needs to create their best work and collaborate with their peers. Adobe offers two Creative Cloud for teams plans — you can opt for a complete plan (all apps and services) or a single-app plan such as Photoshop CC (access to one app and select services). With each option, you’ll receive access to the same easy-to-use web-based admin console that allows the administrator to centrally purchase, deploy, and manage all seats across your organization — whether single app or complete — under one membership agreement.
2) Creative Cloud for enterprise is for organizations with large deployments that require centralized provisioning and customized deployment of apps and services. Enterprises also receive enterprise customer support and expert services. Creative Cloud for enterprise also works with Digital Publishing Suite; Adobe Anywhere for video; and Adobe Marketing Cloud, which includes Adobe Experience Manager — all sold separately.
Also, the team licences is not individually licences products per account users and the same goes with the enterprise license.
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Vikrantt Singh -
I have a Y9 Computer Science Exam next week and I know that this will probably be one of the questions on it so I need to know the answer. What is the difference?
An If statement executes once IF the statement is true:
If 1 = 2/2 Then
Textwindow.writeline("True")
EndIf
A While statement executes WHILE the statement is true:
While 4 = 2+2
'Will keep looping while it is true
EndWhile
A For statement loops a number in increment:
For i = 1 to 10
'Every time through, i gets bigger by one until it equals 10
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It is written: "'As surely as I live,' says the Lord, 'every knee will bow before me; every tongue will acknowledge God.'" Romans 14:11 -
What is difference between sy-tabix and sy-index.
SAP Seniors,
Can you please let me know what is difference between sy-index and sy-tabix.
I read the SAP help, it is confusing for me. it looks like both are same from help. please help me.
Thank you
Anitha.HI,
Here is a brief description of difference between SY_TABIX and SY_INDEX and using them with several conditions.
SY-TABIX
Current line of an internal table. SY-TABIX is set by the statements below, but only for index tables. The field is either not set or is set to 0 for hashed tables.
APPEND sets SY-TABIX to the index of the last line of the table, that is, it contains the overall number of entries in the table.
COLLECT sets SY-TABIX to the index of the existing or inserted line in the table. If the table has the type HASHED TABLE, SY-TABIX is set to 0.
LOOP AT sets SY-TABIX to the index of the current line at the beginning of each loop lass. At the end of the loop, SY-TABIX is reset to the value that it had before entering the loop. It is set to 0 if the table has the type HASHED TABLE.
READ TABLE sets SY-TABIX to the index of the table line read. If you use a binary search, and the system does not find a line, SY-TABIX contains the total number of lines, or one more than the total number of lines. SY-INDEX is undefined if a linear search fails to return an entry.
SEARCH <itab> FOR sets SY-TABIX to the index of the table line in which the search string is found.
SY-INDEX
In a DO or WHILE loop, SY-INDEX contains the number of loop passes including the current pass.
Hope this helps.
Thank you,
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