Different production Version in subcontraction process

Dear SAP Experts,
We have created two different scheduling agreements for manufacturing of same Finished goods, plant & vendor through subcontracting using two different BOM activated through different production Versions with different set of components, But the system is picking up the Version available in the current Inforecords for both the agreements.
Kindly advise whether, any functionality available for picking up the right version designated for each scheduling agreement.
Regards

Dear Ravinder Kumar,
1.In case if you want to split the requirement's equally for 2 different sources say 2 different production versions you can
maintain the quota in MEQ1 for the % for 2 different production version.
2.Normally the system picksup the production version which is assigned in the Purchase Info Record in ME11 for sub-
contracting type.
3.Production version can be controlled by lot size and validity date.Normally the first production version will be picked by the
system in case if both the production version falls under same validity date and lot size.You can use the option of locking the
production version and to check the results.
4.Check this link to explore more,
http://help.sap.com/saphelperp60_sp/helpdata/EN/b2/fa1ed4d51d11d1a69e0000e83235d4/content.htm_
Regards
Mangalraj.S

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