Diffrence B/w Standard,Modified,Current Cost estimates...

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What are the diffrences between Standard(PPC1), Modified (PPC2) and Current (PPC3) Cost Estimate and why is only one estimate allowed to update price. How are these three estimates useful...
Thanks
Sivaram

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Target sost calculation not considered Current cost estimate in KKBC_ORD

Hi All,
We have an case wherein it observed that target cost calculation on SFG is wrong
in KKBC_ORD where system does not considered the current cost estimate.
We have all the necessayry customisation in place for Target cost version 0 for current cost estimate.
Below is detailsed case.
1 Process Order created in Dec 2011
2 Price Released to Mat master on 01.01.2012
3 Goods movement,Operation confirmad Material Issues, FG qty delivered @ std cost 0n 04.01.2012
4 Order Technically completed (TECO)
5 KKS1/KKS2 will be done at month end.
We know that In Process order, after deliver of FG the target cost on FG is not getting calculated,target cost will be updated only after calculating variance. it does
not calculate after delivery of finished goods, On Execution of KKS1/KKS2 variance will be calculated the target cost on FG and will be updated.
In process order (COR3 --> Cost analysis) Target cost ,Actual cost and Planned cost are calculated based on the following:
Total Plan Cost = Std Cost the material required to Produce X Planned Qty of the required material
Target Cost = Std Cost the material planned to Produce X Std Qty of material required to produce, for Produced Actual Qty
Actual Cost = Std Cost the material planned to Produce X Actual Qty of material consumed, for Produced Actual Qty
The variance is calculated on SFG and assemblies based on the difference between actual and target cost in KKBC_ORD. During creation of process order, the plan cost
will be updated with the valid standard cost upon the creation.
The target cost on SFG and Assemblies is only generated when there is good receipt from production order into inventory.
The target cost is generated using the valid / recent costing run for the correspondence SFG in KKBc_ORD.
All other target costs showed in COR3 (Menu Go to > Costs > Analysis) or KKBC_ORD before doing KKS1/2 is only statistical- However in our case Traget cost calculated
on SFG in KKBC_ORD not relevant with current cost estimate.
However Actual cost and Planned cost Calculated correctly.
Actual Cost= Current Standard costof the materilal(5.624,88)X Actual Qty (13.693)=77.021,48
Planned cost= Std Cost the material required to Produce (6.572,12) X Planned Qty (12.415)= 81.592,87
However Target cost is not considering the current cost estimate;It should be - Current Standard cost of the materilal(5.624,88)X Target Qty(13.958,124)=78512.07.
But Errorneously Target cost is showing 67.383,59 which causing unfavorable variance to standard.
It should be 78512.07-77.021,48= 1490.59 favourable var to standard in KKBC_ORD.
Any help,suggestion and input would be highly appreciated.
Thanks with Regards
Subrata

hi
target cost is your standard cost* actual confirmed quantity, not the standard quantity required
the variance calculated will be always the actual debit to the production order- actual credit of the production order
your actual credit for the process order is std cost* actual quantity delivered to the inventory= Current Standard costof the materilal(5.624,88)X Actual Qty (13.693)=77.021,48
actual debit to the process order is total actual cost which you can see in COR3 report .
By the way for which period you have calculated variance, target cost will be calculated based on that months standard cost
krishna

Cost Estimate Deletion Problem

Hi,
I have executed the cost estimate for the material.Now i wanted to delete it in CKR1 as it is incorrect.So that i can execute a new cost estimate for this.
but my doubt is - if we execute cost estimate,then it will update in material master costing view.If i delete and then execute new cost estimate for the same material.will the new rates will be update? or the old incorrect rates are not deleted?
Kindly advise me
Thanks
Supriya

From the time you run a cost estimate, till the time it reaches the material master, there are three stages.
First run and save the cost , Second mark the cost estimate, Third release the cost estimate.
There is no change to the material master for the first two stages with respect to material value. When you mark, it just updates the future price. Only at the third stage, the material price changes with the new cost estimate value. For any quantity that is in stock, the change in vaule is journalised.
Hence, if you have just run the cost estimate, you are only in the first stage. You can comfortably delete CKR1. But please exercise caution, any wrong deletion can take away the cost estimate stored in the material master. This does not take away the standard price, only the estimate gets removed. As a result, you may not be able to get the cost component report for production order etc.
When you are in CKR1, open up the small plus icon, which will give you more selection option to help you pinpoint the cost estimate that you want to delete.
You can also check details of the current cost estimate in the costing view to find out which cost estimate has got updated in the standard price.

Reorganization of Cost estimates

Dear All,
Please help in knowing the difference between "Reorganization of Cost Estimates" & "Revaluation" of a product having standard price in material master.
In a nutshell, why "Reorganization of Cost Estimation"(CKR1) is to be done before "Price change" (MR21).
Hope that my query is clear.
Thanks
Nikesh Patel

Nikesh,
1. Reorganization of cost estimate means deletion of cost estimate, by using the transaction code CKR1 you can delete the current cost estimate, marked (future) cost estimate. It is advisable to do the CKR1 before any goods movements for that material.
Generally this will perform when the business realized that released cost estimate is wrong.
2. MR21 will use to update the standard price for the materials. when you update the price as per the new standard price your inventory will evaluates at that time there is an accounting entry if your new standard price is greater than old standard price.
Inventory dr to Revaluation inventory cr.
The above GL accounts will trigger as per the OBYC--> UMB settings.
Please let me know if you need any further help.
Regards,
Ravi

Std. cost estimate

Dear Experts,
We have ROH, HALB & ZMAT as materials. The question is with respect std. cost estimate.
The cost estimate are run for HALB & ZMAT items created on day to day basis. However cost estimate is executed for all the HALB & ZMAT on alternate months.
I would lke to know the best practice or industry standard on this issue on the frequency of estimates. I appreciate any other points rellated to this point.
Thanks in advance.
T.S.Shankar

hi read the following basics of CO-PC
1)A material cost estimate used to calculate the standard price in the
material master record.
2)The cost estimate must be executed with a costing variant that updates
the material master, and the cost estimate must be released.
3)Forms the basis for profit planning or product costing where the focus
is on determining the variances.
4)Typicall, a standard cost estimate is created for each product at the
beginning of the fiscal year or new season or BEGINING OF THE PERIOD / MONTH.
5)Standard cost estimates establish standard prices for semifinished
products and finished products. The costs calculated in standard cost
estimates are used to valuate materials with standard price control.
A costing type that calculates the cost of goods manufactured for a
product during the course of a planning period.
It differs from the standard cost estimate in that it uses the quantity
structure that has changed during the planning period as the basis for
calculating costs.   ( WHEN EVR YOUR PLANNING WILL BE CHANGED    )
CURRENT COST ESTIMATE
1)A cost estimate that can be created at any time to valuate the current
quantity structure with the current prices.
This cost estimate serves the following purposes:
A) You can compare its results with the results of the standard cost
     estimate to support decision-making in production.
B)You can transfer the results of this cost estimate to the material
     master and use them to valuate the goods receipt when working with
     materials that use the moving average price.
Regards
Mala K Reddy

Can I find out, with user has deleted all cost estimates with CKR1?

Hi Community,
ich have a major problem: all our standard material don't have a cost estimate any more, because a unknown user has deleted all current cost estimates. Can I find out, with user has used the CKR1 transaction? And much more importend: how can I solve the problem? Do I need to re-calculate all the material?
Thanks for any idea and help
PoD

Hi,
you have to make the costing run, marking, releasing again but thats not the whole work.
If there are PP-orders that have been created based on the old/deleted plan cost estimates, the variance calculation will not work as the plan cost estimate is missing (even if the new one is released in the same period).
Thus variance calculation is not possible for those orders... You have to settle the whole balance to receiver object by removing the variance key in PP-order. Try first for one particualr order to see if there are some other problems that need to be solved during month-end-closing.
How to find out who has executed CKR1 (SAPCKR1): Check authorizations for (hopefully) a small number of user who are allowed to use CKR1.
Use T-Code ST03N, in the left upper window double-click "total" (maybe click a day if you can imagine which (possible) date it was). In lower left section open "user and settlement statistics" and then click "user profile". Now go to each possible user and look for T-Code CKR1.
This can be time-consuming but its worth a try...
For the future: restrict CKR1 to a very small number of user (and they should be well trained...). I once had a company (with poor authorization concept) but CKR1 was blocked in SM01 and a ZCKR1 was created and in this Z-transaction USER-name was checked (if SY-USNAM...) so only the use names named in this Z-program were allowed to use ZCKR1. Not the best way but sufficient for them...
Good luck, Christian

Standard Cost Estimate Report Comparing Current vs Previous Year

Hi Everyone,
Is there a standard SAP report that would provide materials with previous and current year standard cost estimates as found within the Costing 2 view of the material master?
Thanks,
Pete

Hi,
You need to look into periodic reports. Here is the best one to provide the copmarision between two period -
S_ALR_87099932.
Go into the report & select the costing runs taken in two diffrent periods. You will get all the required results of prices for two periods/costing runs.
Regards,
Amol

Issue with Standard Cost estimates / Material Ledger

Background:
We have been using SAP for the last 5 years with Material Ledger active. Due to a number of reasons, we have not revised its standard cost estimates from 2001 till now. This means that at month end, we do not mark and release prices as recommended, nor do we mark prices and use dynamic release.
What Happened:
A new material called PFSW3 was made. This is a FERT. Before production
could start my team released the standard cost estimate for this material. Production was now able to proceed without problem. Then, when the time came to sell the material (VF02), SAP again raised the error 'cost estimate not found'. On checking the standard price in MM03, we discovered that the future cost estimate was missing. So we created and marked a new cost estimate in the middle of February 2007.
Problem:
When the first sale took place, SAP released the marked cost estimate and posted a Price Change document to adjust for the new standard cost. I understand this was due to dynamic release. Now, when month end came, the system settled all the production orders of material PFSW3 but did not do multi level costing on it.
Internal Investigation:
My team has determined that the material PFSW3 has price determination 2 set by mistake. All our other production materials (HALB and FERT) are
set to price determination 3 in the material master (accounting view).
Questions:
To sum this situation up,
we need to know why the material PFSW3 was not marked closed in its period status (CKM3) at the time of closing through CKMLCP?
What are the implications of not closing this material in Feb 2007 (current period status is showing 'Quantities and values entered')?
How can we close this material this month?
The future cost estimate is again missing for PFSW3 in March 2007 and I
fear we are going to face more problems as this material is sold to customers.
Please respond this is an urgent issue.

Dear Shumyl,
Please, have a look at Note 645083 - Material period status set to "Closing Entry Completed" that might help to closing your material in previous period.
Hope it will be useful.
Regards,
Flaviano.

Report showing labor and machine time based on standard cost estimate

Hi Friends,
Ours is an Manufacturing organisation & we have a requirement of report showing machine and labor time as per part wise & cost center wise. We need to run the report before saving standard cost estimate [CK11N] in order to see the part wise or cost center wise discrepancies in machine and labor time. If any one could help in creating such report in SAP it will be of great help.
Regards,
Varsha

Hi Varsha,
you can jump from CK11N to a own report by
Menu Function 'Costs -> User Exit Display'
Cost Report 1 / 2 / 3
The own report can be implemented via (SMOD) enhancement SAPLXCKA
The report will be handed over the currently displayed in the program interface.
some example coding is provided for the exit.
compare SAP Note No. 71146
best regards, Udo

Material ledger and standard cost estimate

Hi Gurus,
When standard cost estimate is done in a scenario, where material ledger is activated, does the entire stock get revaluated andl post a credit in my P/L? Is it possible to keep my inventory(FG and SFG) at periodic unit price ie at the actual manufacturing price over a longer period say 3 years? Please fill this gap in my understanding.
Best regards
Vimal

Hi Vimal,
Material ledger uses the standard price as 'preliminary price' always during the current month, independent of the question if a new standard price was estimated and released.
But: After period end, when the actual price is calculated the posting will adjust the inventory and P/L accounts to the actual price, with posting date in the recent period.
That means if you have a material that was manufactured once and then consumed over a 3 year period, and during that period you calculate the same material in a standard cost estimate with changing results, that would mean: Looking back at any month during the 3 years the consumption and stock values will be valued at the actual price of manufacturing. But during the currently open period it will always be valuated at the price of the last released cost estimate.
I hope I understood your scenario correct...
Best regards, Udo

Is it possible to do Standard Cost Estimate even if we have open sales Orde

Hi,
I have a small doubt and questions regarding Standard cost estimate.
Is it possible to Execute Standard cost estimate when we have Open Sales orders and Open Purchase orders?
Is there any problem if we execute standard cost estimate when we have open Sales orders and Open purchase orders?
Kindly clarify my doubt and help me.
Thanks
Supriya

Dear Supriya,
There is no relation between sales order or purchase order and a standard cost estimate.
Standard cost estimate basically sums up the cost of the BOM components and the operation(activity
cost) or the processing cost(if sub-contracted) based on the material's procurement type and the
costing variant used.
Check and revert back.
Regards
Mangalraj.S

Excise Duty - Standard Cost Estimate

Hi Experts,
We have defined Excise duty as one of the cost component in the cost component structure. Can some one explain how this Excise duty is posted as planned values in the Standard Cost Estimate ( For material cost quantity from the BOM and price from Material Master is picked up according to the Valuation Variant - defined strategy - similarly for Excise Duty how the system captures the Value).
Please Help - thanks in advance.

Hi
If your Plant is not in an Excise Free Zone - Then You should not add Excise Duty as a cost component because you will be getting credit for the same
If your Plant is in an Excise Free Zone - Then your MAP/Planned Price etc must be inclusive of Excise duty.... This is handled by marking the excise condition as Non Deductible
So, in short, there is no way to show it separate... For Case b, you can use CK74N to add Excise component as Additive cost
br, Ajay M

Problem with rounding in standard cost estimate.

Hi All,
Happy 4th of July!
I have a problem with the standard cost estimate where the system try to calculate overhead costs (from costing sheet) with a fix percentage (9.7%) to the value coming from material consumption costs element.
Let say I have $1.71 material consumption and the overhead rate of 9.7%
The real calculation should be (1.71*0.097) = $0.16587
But at CK11N screen, it shows only $0.16 (two decimal rounding)
Is there a way that I can bump the rounding to at least 3 decimal point to make it more accurate?
Very appreciate any input you guys can share. Thank you.
Charitha

Hi Chari ,
My experience says that you can use only 2 decimals ..
Moreover , please have a look into SAP Note : 639410 - CK11N, CK13N: Message CK869 due to rounding
differences.
There a some source code corrections also on rounding differences- check if it helps you also...
Regards
Sarada

Standard cost estimate could not be found for the material

Dear All,
We have 4 manufacturing plants and 30 sale depots. We are maintaining price control (S) for FG and SFG in Manufacturing plants,price control (V) at depots for the same material code. we are getting an error message " standard cost estimate could not be found for the material" while doing billing at depot.
Please give me suggestion.
Your suggestion should be appreciate.
Thanks in advance............
AND
My client want to see profitability at manufacturing plant level and need break up for the COGM. So how can i get the values of depot sales.
please let me know how to do........

Hai
Price control should be S for Depot also. You need to run standard cost estimate in DEPOT after entering additive cost under CK74N for frieght, excise duty etc. To transfer the standard cost from the source plant you need to make configuration in OMD9 defining the receiver and sender combination so that system can pick up the cost from source plant. This special produrement type needs to be asigned in the material masters of DEPOT under MRP 2 view.
Pushkala

Recursive Loop Error while doing standard cost estimate

SAP Gurus,
We are trying to do standard cost estimate on a material and we are getting error because it is going in recursive loop even though we have used "recursive allowed" indicator for item components in the BOM. The error message numbers are CK 730 and CK 740. We are using 4.6c. I have tried the same scenario in ECC 6.0 and still I get the same problem.
Below is my BOM structure:
Material 10890345 (has low-level code 012)
        ---> 10867220 (has low-level code 013) and has recursive allowed indicator
10867220
        ---> 10846733 (has low-level code 014) and has recursive allowed indicator
10846733
        ---> 10890345 (has low-level code 012) and has recursive allowed indicator
According to me, the BOM for material 10846733 is causing the problem.
For some weird reason while doing the costing run for material 10890345, it s not stopping and going in a loop.10890345 and 10846733 should ideally have the same low-level code as they are recursive.
Please help to provide some solutions at the earliest on how to avoid recursive loop during costing.
Regards,
Swapnil

Dear,
I have 2 things to shear with you.
The method we followed to solve the iteration is as below
1.Config change -
Valuation variant in the costing variant, we changed the sequence as below
material valuation
4 planned price 1
2 std price
3 Mov ave price
2. Material master change
made all the semi finished goods and finished goods
procurement type = E,
costing with qty structure,
Enter the planned price1
By doing this what happens is
when system first start the iteration, takes the planned price 1 and start iterating and next time in the second iteration it takes the calculated price from qty structure till it finds the difference between the value calculated is less than .001. Then it gives the result
Why lot size is important is, in our case in some levels the usage is very less compared to the first material header qty and system used to stop in between and not even reaching the last level as during the cycle it was reaching less .001 difference. may be in your case it may not be the case...just check
Please come back after trying this. this was the only last option i had to solve the issue in my client.
Another alternative is to have a different material for costing purpose to stop the iteration which i will not recommend as we need to do some calculation for each stage and input the cost of dummy material in each stage.
My client is happy with the result as the difference between manual calculation and system calculation is less then .1%...this is because SAP will not consider the difference beyond .001, but in excel you get as many as decimals you want.

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