Disasterous Home Move experience (so far)

Back in April, I knew I would be moving from my old address (Home 1) at the end of June, so.. in May, I contacted BT's Home Move Team to arrange for my services to be installed at my new address (Home 2) a couple of days after I was due to move in (an engineer was booked for 28/06 pm). In total, I have a phone line, call sign, anonymous call reject, call minder extentions, caller display, ring back and call waiting.
When I placed the order in May, I was told I could move my old numbers to the new address without problem. Anyway, the 28th came and went and no engineer visited although we did have a dialing tone when tested. However, the phone didn't ring when either line or Call Sign numbers were called and the caller would just get a single ring tone and then the line would drop.
I called 150 the following day and was put through to, what seemed like a customer call centre in India. After 30 minutes of waiting on the phone whilst the operator tried to get through to an engineer, I had to give in as I had somewhere else to be. I left my mobile number with the operator and asked for someone to call me back when she finally managed to get through to the engineers. No call ever came.
I called 150 again on the 30th which was again replied by some gentleman in India and was told the hold up was due to an issue with activating the call sign service. I was asked again for my call sign tel. number as they did not appear to have it on their system and I was assured that the issued would be resolved "within 24 hours" now that they had the number.
I called 150 again Thursday pm and elected to be put through to the Home Move team this time round to find out why my order had still not been fulfilled. I was promptly told that the order had obviously not been completed correctly and that the issue would be passed to a manger who would phone me back within 2 hours. I gave my mobile number again and waited. No call ever came.
Friday AM. I contacted the Home Move Team yet again on 150 and was told that the order could not be fulfilled as they had received "conflicting information" from me. I asked what this was and I was told that I had given my Call Sign number but I was unable to take that with me because a new number would have to be generated if I opted to transfer the call sign service despite the fact that a) I had previously moved my call sign number before on a previous move and b) BT customer service reps had constantly asked for my call sign number up to this point. I was told that my original order would have to be cancelled and a new order generated. How long was I expected to wait? Well, as it was BT's mess up in the first place by not placing the order correctly, they would be able to get the line on by Tuesday 6th! Oh, but they would have to allocate me a ghost number temporarily because my original number had now been assigned to the previous order but no fear, they would be able to get it reallocated by the 7th. Feeling the issue had been resolved, albeit delayed, I felt somewhat happier UNTIL....
A nagging feeling in the back of my mind was saying to me to log in to the BT Order Tracking system online with the new order number I'd been given. I inputted the VOL number and new postcode. NOTHING. Order could not be found. I inputted the VOL number and my old postcode. VOILA. There was the order. A quick check to 150 yesterday morning confirmed my worst fears. The order had been allocated to my old address!!!!! The apologetic BT customer services rep. told me, once again, my order had to be cancelled and another one raised for new address. Oh, and, the system is telling me "we won't be able to complete this order until 19th July" WHAT!!!!????? I announced. "Don't worry" I was told, "due to the error/circumstances we'll be able to bring the order forward but I can't offer you an earlier date at the moment because the order has to be accepted by Open Reach". I was then asked to call back later on in the afternoon so that Open Reach had opportunity to accept order and an earlier date could be arranged.
Guess what! I did that and Steve the Customer Service guy promptly told me there was nothing they could do to bring the order forward because it was not an Open Reach error but a BT one and Open Reach can't prioritise BT customers over other customers. I was offered 1 month's free line rental for my inconvenience and "was there anything else I could help you with?" I exclaimed "so, you're telling me that, despite no fault of my own, you are leaving me without a phone line and other subsequent services for 3 weeks and there is nothing you can do to alleviate the situation". I was then, quite curtly told, that I had received one month's line rental free for the inconvenience and that, in the past, BT might have had some sway with Open Reach, but not any longer. And that ended the call.
If this is what BT determines as, I quote "moving with less stress", I think they need to re-evaluate their competences, customer service and what the customer considers satisfactory!!!!!!
Mark (and very peeved off)

Hi Mark,
This doesn't sound good at all. If you'd like us to look into this email me your details and a link to this thread at [email protected] and I'll make sure there aren't any further problems with the order.
Stephanie
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