Display of internal revenues between profit centers in FI (FAGLL03)

Hi,
I need to do transfer posting ( Storage location to Storage Location ) between two profit centers which are in the same plant. I need to have the line item to display the internal revenue to the sender profit center and cost to the receiving profit center.
I maintained accounts for the mapping of internal goods movements between profit centers (Transaction 0KEK "Account Determination for Internal Goods Movements"). But the additional line items are not reflected.
Thanks
Bhaskar

Hi ,
This requirement is achieved through configuration.
Thanks

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Hello Dasu,
This situation is not unique to your client, but universal to enterprise operating with two or more company codes / business lines / products.
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My client has nearly 30 profit Centers (Each product/line) and final product of one profit center sya X is an in put of production process of another profit center say Y.
Here problem is that Profit Center X wanted to claim some internal profit margine on Profit Center Y because it supplying materials and Profit Center X want to treat Y as an External customer.
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Hello Dasu,
This situation is not unique to your client, but universal to enterprise operating with two or more company codes / business lines / products.
Recording inter-profit centre transactions at sales price is not that easy; however with the standard functionalities this can be achieved. SAP system has provided various functionalities with the combination of currency and valuation which is more commonly known as u201CTransfer Pricing or Multiple Valuation Approachesu201D.
You define your currency and valuation profiles in Customizing under Controlling  Controlling General  Multiple Valuation Methods/Transfer Prices  Basic Settings  Maintain currency and valuation profile.
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http://help.sap.com/saphelp_erp60_sp/helpdata/en/eb/13811243c411d1896f0000e8322d00/frameset.htm
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