Revenues not transferred to profit centers

hi ,
we are using ecc 6.0 , i included revenue account in 3keh trancation. i have also done f.5d , but still i dont see any revenue in profit centers after customer invoices are posted(with out sales orders).
thanks

define revenue accounts as cost element with category 11.
regards
anantha

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can i transfer receivables and revenues both to same profit center. can can one explein me with example how to transfer both ?
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when revenues and receivables are transferred to same profit center debit and credit posting will cancel out each other and balance will be zero( incase both receivable and reveue are same amount). so i have a doubt whether both can be transferred to same profit center.
can you explain me with one example how to transfer both plzzzzzzzz.
i appreciate your help in answering my questions.
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monica

Transferring receivables to profit centers

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we are using ecc 6.0, i want to transfer customer receivables to profit centers. i didnot maintain customer receivable account in 3keh. i have done f.5d, but receivables are not transferring to profit centers. <b>do we need to do 1kek in ecc 6.0 also plz respond</b>
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monica

Hi,
- F.5D splits or breaks down each document
- 1KEK transfers it to PCA.
- run F.5D and 1KEK in succession and check transfer in PCA
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I need to do transfer posting ( Storage location to Storage Location ) between two profit centers which are in the same plant. I need to have the line item to display the internal revenue to the sender profit center and cost to the receiving profit center.
I maintained accounts for the mapping of internal goods movements between profit centers (Transaction 0KEK "Account Determination for Internal Goods Movements"). But the additional line items are not reflected.
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New GL Profit Centers not updated with Reposting of costs in CO

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There is one concern, which I am not able to address.
In case one reposts primary costs to different cost centers which in turn has different profit centers, the PCA report gets updated since it is posted in CO.
However, in case of New GL Profit center reports the values are displayed in the original profit center posted and not in the reposted profit center. I understand that the reposting is done only in CO, but then there would be a mismatch in the PCA reports and the New GL profit center reports.
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check the path and see if Account Determination between CO & FI is active for the variant defined and assigned to your company code:
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We have loaded a list of profit centers to a new box and all of them are not showing up in KCH6N. CEPC table has all the loaded PC's.
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How did you load these profit centers - LSMW, ALE or manual?
If it is anything other than ALE, it will be available under the corresponding nodes when your do a expand all nodes.
If you have uploaded the profit centers in the new system through an ALE, the problem is that it updates the table CEPC directly without using the t-codes and therefore the standard hierarchy doesn't get updated. Even SAP recommends not to update the standard master data tables directly and it should be done by using the relevant t-codes either manully or through LSMW
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G/L Account Line Items/ Profit Centers/ FBL3N/ F.5D/1KEK/KE5Z/BalanceSheet?

Hi Experts,
Am running FBL3N-G/L Line Item Display, and am trying to get PROFIT CENTERS for Balanace sheet type of accounts, but Its not showing up.
But, am getting for Profit Loss accounts.
1) Why its so?
2) Then How to get the PROFIT CENTERS for them? (I know they r available, in BSEG)
3) Functional owner said(tele talk, no voice clear!!!) that, the Profit Centers are NOT get updated UNTIL month end, unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s., which inturn system copies the profit centers(I dont know that, From where it copies) and posts/updates(I dont know, Wht get updated?), so, he said, relying on ??(is it BSEG??????) is not works out!!
So, let me know that,
Wht does its mean? Wht NOt get updated until month end?unless run the F.5D, 1KEK, KE5Z tx.s? Is it DataBase? BSEG?
4) Is BSEG table get updated, as soon as any FICO document ceated by user? I mean, Can I relay on BSEG always, for pulling the profit centers data for Balance sheet accounts, all the time?
5) If NOT, them Where Can I find them?
thanq

Hi Srinivas,
You have to declare balance sheet accounts as relevant for PCA inside 3KEH transaction in config. So you mark the balance sheet accounts that should appear in PCA in 3KEH with a default profit center which can be overwritten with the use entry.
Fixed Assets, AR/AP and WIP can be transferred into PCA at the monthend. PCA is a separate ledger, has its own set of tables and reports. Inventory and other balance sheet accounts are posted into PCA online.
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Repostings of data in profit centers

Hi!
any one can tell me can we report revenues between profit centers as we will done in the case of Cost Centers ( KB11N,KB61)?
Not through distribution and assessment.
I have configured some revenue elements to internal order in OKB9 and in internal order profit center is assigned.
As we forgotten to insert profit center in internal orders, all revenues posted to Dummy profit center.
Now we want to repost from dummy profit center to actual profit center.
regs,
ramesh

Hi,
You can always repost the values from dummy profit center to correct profit center.
Please try the relevent option.
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Best Regards
Surya

Automatic derivation of Profit centers

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is there a possiblity that profit center can be derived based on the customer?
rquirement is .. profit centers are divided geographically, they have only one revenue account . and based on the customer we can tell to which profit center that revenue line item is to be posted. how can we achive this in the SAP.
in 3kei i am seeing GL account but not customer. is there any other way
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kalyan

Hello you can go for a substitution, create a set of customers for a region and then you can give the pre req as if the customer is from set 1 then substitute with the appropriate profit center. use ggb1 for substitution
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KE28 - problem with Profit Centers

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I have segments with several profit centers.
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Is it possible?
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G

Hi G
In your case, Dist Lvl will be PC.
In selection criteria, if you enter the Source PC and choose Sales revenue as Tracing factor, will that not work??
Usually, Top Down works when you wanna allocate from a higher level to lower level. In your case, the level is same I.e. Sender and Receiver both are PCs
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Logic for configuration of profit centers

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I'm through with configuration of cost centers in our company, now I'm due to configure the profit centers. One point is, in our sister concern, they have copied all the cost centers and configured the profit centers on the same logic.
could anyone suggest me on how to do this, if there is any copy procedure and what would be the effects of copying the cost centers and configuring profit centers with the same number.
say if a cost center exists like: 402010 which is mumbai manufacturing, can I have the profit center with the same number 402010 for mumbai manufacturing, and what would be the effect of doing so.
And can I copy the variances cost centers as well to make variances profit centers
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Please go through the IMG settings, after you get an idea from the below info
The master data includes the master records for the individual profit centers, as well as the corresponding standard hierarchy and alternative profit center groups.
Your companys standard profit center hierarchy may somewhat resemble the cost center hierarchy. Consequently, Profit Center Accounting provides a function which lets you copy the entire cost center hierarchy to the profit center hierarchy (see Customizing). You can then change the profit center hierarchy with the normal maintenance transactions to meet your requirements in Profit Center Accounting.
It is also possible to create account groups that are valid only for Profit Center Accounting. These account groups help you structure your information system to better meet your requirements.
It is possible to copy the cost and revenue element groups used in Cost Center Accounting (CO‑CCA) or the balance sheet account groups used in Financial Accounting (FI) to Profit Center Accounting, and then change them in EC-PCA to meet your requirements.
You can also maintain FI accounts and CO cost/revenue elements from the Profit Center Accounting application menu. However, these are not originally master data for Profit Center Accounting. On the contrary, the integration of the SAP system makes it possible for you to access the FI and CO master data directly.
The assignments of all profit‑relevant objects to profit centers play an important role. These determine how your business is divided up into areas of responsibility. You make these assignments in the master data of the original objects (materials, cost centers, orders, projects, sales orders, assets, cost objects, profitability segments).
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Classic profit centers reporting full b/s below company code level

Dear Experts,
we are using classic profit center. How to get Profit center wise balance sheet below company code level.
Facing issues for balance sheet GL accounts as at 3KEH one profit center i can choose...my requirement is to get 2 balance sheets for two profit centers.
any suggestions ?
Regards,
Sekhar

Hello Sekhar,
With Classic profit center accounting correct balance sheet cannot be ensured at Profit center level.
This is due to following reasons
1. Vendor/ Customer line items -
No assignment of Vendor/Customer recon accounts to Profit center in 3KEH.
But in period end you have to execute F.5D and 1KEK to transfer this values to Profit center accounting based on the offsetting line items.
This also might create problems if you don't clear the open items on period end as your Sales/Purchase will go to one Profit center and Payment will go to other (defaulted for Bank/Cash). Cleared items are not transferred
Also, Transaction between Vendor and Customer will lead to some values posting in Dummy profit center.
2. Asset line items
Profit center will be determined by Asset master
3. Tax accounts
Mostly it has to go with Default Profit center. SAP has given option for re-determination of Tax line items profit center based on off-setting line items during period end (Tax account should be assigned to Dummy profit center in 3KEH). But this will work only for Sales/Purchase transaction, as payment will go to default profit center used for Cash/Bank. Again it might lead to confusion.
4. Material accounts
Profit center assigned in Material master is used.
5. Other Balance sheet accounts
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Cost Centers & Profit Centers in PM Order Settlements

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Can anyone please explain me the exact use of following Fields in the PM Order?
Additional Data Tab    -     Responsible CCt , Profit Center , Object Class
Location Tab             -   Account Assignment u2013 Cost Center
Settlement Rule         - Settlement Receiver (When category is CTR-Cost Center)
Also would appreciate if the explanation can be given on the impact on above in settling the Orders.
(CAPEX Orders as well as OPEX Orders)
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Hi,
Additional Data Tab
Responsible Cost Center: - The responsible cost center is the responsible area for authorization check on internal orders.
This does not have to be the cost center to which the order settles its costs.
(ex The cost center "site office" is the responsible cost center).
Profit Center:- Operating results for profit centers can be analyzed using either the
cost of sales approach or the period accounting approach.
By analyzing the fixed capital as well, you can expand your profit
centers for use as investment centers.
Location Tab
Cost Center:- which belongs to Equipment Master or Functional Location. This cost will be comes under Account Assignment Category
Settlement Reveiver:- Its the set of cost elements which receives the Actual cost from the work order & transfers to the cost center.
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Edited by: Venkatesan Anandan on Mar 11, 2009 3:03 PM

All the profit centers in a plant

hi
can any one tell me how to see the all the existing Profit centers in a plant
either through a table or through a transaction

Hi Reddy,
a report based on table BSEG will to 100% sure NOT solve your issue as in table BSEG only the transactional data posted to FI is stored. If the plant information is available depends on the application (does the application transfers the plant information?) but also depends on your customizing (is the field status activiated for plant? etc)
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A possibility will be an ABAP report on table MARC which is a master data table for materials. In this table you have the plant information and you have the profit center information available. Based on this table you can write an own ABAP to determine which profit centers are assigned to a plant or vice versa.
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How to move Profit centers from one hierarchy to another.

Hi All - In Standard hierarchy in our Profit center accounting, we have in KCH6N as below and doing posting to these successfully.
1. C1470 - 000001470 Profit center
2. C1472 - 000001472 Profit center
Now for some Business reason, we need to temporarily move above said profit centers in their hierarchy to another one C1410. So Users could post a journal entry and then move the profit centers back to their current location.
After we make the change, It should be
C1410 - 000001470 Profit center
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Can you please suggest me how to move the Profit centers from one hierarchy to another. Can you please let me know how to make this change.
Thanks

Hi Hoysala,
This is not the best practice, to change profit center hierarchy node to another node, just for the sake of JV.
If you have to allocate a cost/revenue from one cost center/profit center to another, I would advise you to use manual allocation/distribution process, as per your business reason (Profit Center Allocation/Cost Center Allocation), rather than changing hierarchy nodes.
You can use 3KE5-Execute Actual Assessment and 4KE5-Execute Actual Distribution from Profit Center 1470/1472 to the profit center under node C1410, without moving profit center from one node to another.
http://veritysolutions.com.au/2012/07/03/overhead-allocations-in-sap-new-gl/
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