Do k8t neo fis2r have agp/pci lock?
Hi
I just read a test of my motherboard (MSI k8t neo fis2r).
I was written that the motherboard had a agp/pci lock.
Does it so? I dont want to damage my 9800xt with to high agp bus so i need to know! please
Simple fix... Don't overclock the system clock or what people mistakenly reffer to as the Front Side Bus (FSB)... The issue is not just with the motherboard but rather with the VIA K8T-800 chipset. The Hyperthreading, PCIO, and AGP are all tied to the system clock so when you change that clock everything is affected. Some things can handle it and some things can't. If you leave the system clock alone then there are no worries.
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I have faced problems when making OC in my Athlon 64 3400+. I do not obtain to increase the FSB for 213Mhz more than without that they occur stopped or reset. I am using 1Gb (2x512) of Ram (Corsair CMX 3200LL PRO).
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my system
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MSI K8T Neo FIS2R
1Gb Ram (512x2) Corsair CMX 3200LL PRO
ATI Radeon 9800XT 256Mb
120Gb SATA Maxtor 8mb buffer
Audigy 2
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First, here is my setup.
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MB: K8T NEO-FIS2R
CPU: AMD 64 3200+ 1MB L2 Cache
CPU Fan: Thermaltake Venus 12
RAM: TWINX1024-3200LLPT (2x512Mb DDR400 - Corsair XMS Extreme - Cas Latency: 2-3-2-6 T1)
HD: 6Y120M0 - SATA Maxtor 120GB (plugged on SER1 not the one from Promise)
DVD-RW & Floppy
video card: ASUS nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 - 8X AGP - 256MB DDR - Core Speed 425MHz
Power Supply: Turbolink 350W - +3.3V/24A - +5V/35A - +12V/12A[/list=a]
And of course I have 5 case fans w/ led, the UV light, etc... etc...
Now here is my problem:
When I power up for the first time, my display is kind of crappy (some small lines etc...). I managed to get to the bios etc... after a while the system goes into suspend (Power LED blinking). Can't turn it back on unless I turn off/on the PSU.
When I switch my video card to a ATI Rage 128Mb (my old computer). The picture is good but the system still goes into suspend mode (Power LED blinking).
Also the other weird thing with my 256MB video card, when the system goes into suspend after that I bring it backup, my display is gone, when I switch to my 128MB video card and back to the 256 I get the display back.
I suspect that my PSU is too weak but instead of spending more money on this system I wanted to double check with you guys.
Also, before anybody asks me. Yes, I plugged in the 4-pin 12V connector into the MB.
TZ
EDITED: There was a typo on the +12V of the PSU The correct value is 12A as listed on the PSU. Sorry about that.Jocko>
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Yes 4 pin 12V for connector plugged in
Yes 3 pin power fan connected in pwr_fan connector
Yes still shutdown w/ green light laughing at me.......
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video card1: ASUS nVIDIA GeForce FX5700 - 8X AGP - 256MB DDR - Core Speed 425MHz
video card2: ATI Rage 128Mb (don't know model # or anything, I'm not at the office right now....)
video card1: no display when hard drive/DVD/floppy plugged in
video card2: display ok
both video cards have fans and they are both spinnin'
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ground myself and touch the case everytime.
yes, and removes easily and goes back in easily.
nope everything is cool, nothing got bent pushed or anything
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the stix i have right now are corsair twinx. but I also tried with 1 stick kingston value pc2700(?)(DDR333)
didn't do only power switch & power led only, will do tomorrow and let you know.
yes
yes
pin 1 faces where it should (used floppy drive to flash bios already)
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yes
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no right now I took the MB out to exclude shorts
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I think that the kingston value is used by other users, and the twinx corsair DDR400 is used also if settings changed in bios (which I tried also), but I don't think it would 'cause a shutdown though, specially if the computer does nothing but seat and be on.
Yes different video card, but my ASUS 256Mb doesn't have its own power supply, checked five times, and fan spins when mb powered up
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d-bracket lights: 4 green lights when booting on floppy (even when getting to looking for booting device)
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6600GT not working with K8T neo-FIS2R
I recently returned a K8T NEO-FIS2R MB for repair. The problem was that the PS/2 and USB ports were broken. However the MB has been returned and the PS/2 and USB ports work fine. I posted about this several months ago.
Now the AGP port seems to be broken (not the actual slot). I have tried a 6800 Ultra and a 6600 GT (AGP version) GFX card in this slot. Both cards fail at the driver installation point. I have tried driver versions 66.93, 67.02 and 67.03. I also tried 3 versions of the via drivers 451, 453 and 455. Even tried XP with SP1 and SP2. The PC will sometimes BSOD, reset, won't boot into windows. The drivers sometimes install then other times they won't, etc. The problems only seem to be with the drivers for the GFX cards.
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FDD
Plextor CD writer
DVD Rom
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I just wanted to know if there is a working agp/pci lock for the K9t NEO-fis2r out yet. If not, does anyone know when this might be included in a bios revision, or is it just a pipe dream?
Any help would be greatly appreciated!
Thanksk9t should be k8t sorry hehe
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I am hoping i can get some sort of overclock out of this board. I know without the agp/pci lock it will be limited. But I was wondering if anyone out there has any input on what i might be able to expect before I get too crazy with it. I planned on using the Dynamic overclocking but I dont know whether I will get results with that. Any help is appreciated.
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Thats it!
CudhamHi,
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Hi all,
I have a MSI K8T Neo-FIS2R and was wondering which slot to put my sound card in?.
At the mo it's in pci slot 4 i only have 3/4and 5 availible becuase of my arctic cooler on my rad 9800 pro.
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Hi
Sounds like a flakey floppy, if cable is wrong way, then the floppy led is lit all the time. Does your cable have the crossover wires to end connector, use the end of cable connector, maybe try another floppy cable, if it does use read or boot from a win98 startup disk, then it is the floppy drive or cable. Could of course be bad floppies, but not usual if you are trying several differant ones ( unless they have been beside a magnetic sourde, like telephone). I would try another cable, then another floppy drive. One or other should fix it, as your bios settings appear good.
Is the floppy shown on first page in bios setup - Standard Cmos Features.
Cheers
jocko
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