Do you model business processes?

Hello-
The NetWeaver User Experience team is looking for users willing to particpate in research activities focused on modeling business processes within the context of composite application development. For details, check out the blog post here: <a href="/people/community.user/blog/2007/04/12/user-experience-design-for-composite-application-modeling-tools--who-are-the-users:///people/community.user/blog/2007/04/12/user-experience-design-for-composite-application-modeling-tools--who-are-the-users.
Cheers,
Jonathan Gordon
SAP NetWeaver Ux
SAP AG
Walldorf, Germany

Hi Sriram-
Please send me your contact information (email below) and I can provide you with details on how best to get you involved. Thanks for the interest!
Jonathan
<a href="mailto:[email protected]">mailto:[email protected]</a>

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how do you differentiate business process and business scenario???
pls help

Google says;
A <b>business scenario</b> is a description of a business problem, which enables requirements to be viewed in relation to one another in the context of the overall problem. Without such a description to serve as context, the business value of solving the problem is unclear; the relevance of potential solutions is unclear and there is a danger of the solution being based on an inadequate set of requirements. A key factor in the success of any other major project is the extent to which it is linked to business requirements, and demonstrably supporting and enabling the enterprise to achieve its business objectives. Business scenarios are an important technique to help identify and understand business needs.
A business process -
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Business_process

Business process engine, Integration engine, and Adapter engine

can you differentiate Business process engine(BPE), Integration engine (IE), and Adapter engine

hi,
sure we can
but so can you - just type each of those in google
and you will find:
1. short
2. long
descriptions of all those
in google type also site:sap.com at the end
this will help you much more then our replies
Regards,
michal
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Effective Language for Business Process Modelling in a Web Community

It's a very exciting idea of having business process definition/innovation a community driven process.
Just Imagine a stituation where somebody can innovate a process on a theoritical level which is then perfected by business community opinion/examples for benchmarking, effectiveness, relevance etc.
The ultimate business community dream would be Finding their process in the community. Finding merits and demerits of their process. Explore for a refinement to the process. Getting a copy of their newly created process and
droping it into their IT system and the wonderful IT system upgrading itself to the new process and executing it.
The Impact of simplification would be enormous:
Just check out the possibilities
Every businessman would be an IT user to get ideas for business and business execution
The IT Guy would be recognized as process maker
For a business entity Presentation during AGM could be extra transparent :-).
A very concrete step in this direction would be to have a language or tool which is very easy to understand and drives people for exploration.
My Wish would be a Visual web tool which defines a specific business process in the most simple form, and from there somebody can explore the enhancements to the process.
For example a simple selling process done in medicine shop is
listening the order verbally , delivering it immediately, getting cash immediately and [typing the Invoice on XL or Word or POS machines], printing it and then giving to Customer.
after selecting this business process on the tool one should be able to explore the possible process
enhancements with known business benefits
like
a) offer credit facility to customer--> just a worklist to collect pending money
b) take order now and supply later for non available medicines
c)Start home delivery
The businessman should be able to select (1) or (2) which then becomes his new process.
This can be sent to his IT landscape which should be able to interprete it and then grow itself Ah....
dreaming
[or atleast the model should tell the IT guy what to do!!].
The generic business Process enhancements Options are not too many and can be defined and classified
See the Options in the above mentioned business process context
1)Automation[Create Purchase order from ]
2)Increasing depth [The above example a,b,c are for increasing depth]
3)Step simplification[In the above example instead of word using the POS Machine is simple]
4)Resource utilization[If you have a PC and don't want to buy POS Machine then type the invoice on a Word :-)]
5)Delegation
5)Workforce optimization {any examples :-)community driven}
7)Process optimization (How to deliver the medicine route wise)
8)Colloboration (Using courier to send medicine)
9)Knowledge provision (giving sales/payment trends,)
The idea is so simple but making this tool highiely context(business) sensitive and intuitive is challenge.
But anyway it's not impossible to have a business process language which is effective and an IT systems for which starting point is a business process. The IT system which takes your business process and executes them
wonderfully.
looking forward for this future
Anand
Message was edited by: Anand Rai
Message was edited by: Anand Rai

Hi Dilip,
Thanks a lot for your reply.
I'm also interested to know from community what are different tools used by them for process modelling?
What are their merits?
1)are they easily understandabale
2) do they come with business context
3)whether they can be used in a web comunity? Like somebody can give feedback or business case for a particular business process/step.
4)Does it drive the IT automation
5)Are there any appservers which take business model and generate/grow applications
6)How the different modelling applications should communicate?
7)Common standards
For example
I have used rational rose and RAD like VB they are complicated/simple enough to generate model based applications but the business representation and business context is totally missing. I would seek something with more business context or knowledgebase.
Regards Anand

Using ARIS process models as the foundation for Business Process Monitoring

Hello,
Do anyone know if you can use IDS Scheer ARIS process models and the integration between IDS Scheer ARIS and SAP Solution Manager as the starting point for end-to-end Business Process Monitoring (BPM) so that you get the process description/model automatically in Solution Manager BPM and just need to configure the monitoring (more or less that you monitor against the modelled process in ARIS)?
Is there an API for SAP Solution Manager BPM so that non-SAP solutions/systems can be part of the end-to-end process monitoring?
If not, how do you usually integrate non-SAP solutions that are part of an end-to-end process that you want to monitor into SAP Solution Manager BPM, or do you not use Solution Manager BPM for this?
What is the roadmap for SAP around SAP Solution Manager BPM when it comes to non-SAP systems/applications/solutions and the new SAP NetWeaver BPM functionality?
Regards,
Markus Johansson

Hello Markus,
I just paste my answer form the other forum entry Re: Business process management strategy in SAP?
in a nutshell BPM Netweaver is focussing on so called edge-processes (usually
SOA-based and often workflow related). These edge-processes a thought to enhance exisitng core business processes and should provide the fast competitive edge versus competitors. Examples would be also xApps. For this Netweaver provides process modelling tools, where you can get exectuable code through the integration between CE and PI. The monitoring part for these processes is mainly targeting business end-users and business manager.
Business Process Monitoring with Solution Manager focusses on core business processes which are realized with the "conventional", "old" SAP Architecture, e.g. Order-to-Cash or Procure-to-Pay. You get a combination of technical monitors (average response times of transactions, background job runtimes, monitors for IDOC or qRFC processing) and application related monitors (you get more than 200 pre-configured application monitors out-of-the-box like number of overdue customer orders or outbound deliveries or number of deliveries with goods issue posted but no invoice). The target group here is the support organization of the customer, from Basis-Support over application support on IT side to process owner on business department side.
Overview presentations can be found under
https://service.sap.com/bpm --> Media Library --> Customer Information -->
"Business Process Monitoring - Part 1 & 2".
Or look under https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/nw-processmonitoring
In the end BPM Netweaver and BPMon SolMan are complementary for different purposes and different target groups.
Best Regards
Volker

SAP NetWeaver: SAP's Model-Driven Business Process Application?

Hi All:
I am a graduate student currently doing a research on 'Model-Driven Business Process Application'. I came across some literature about SAP NetWeaver during my research. SAP NetWeaver has generated a lot of interest in me and I would like to know more detailed information about it:
How is SAP adopting BPM principles to manage Work-flows? Can we consider any of the current NetWeaver applications as model-driven?
It would be great to know the answers to some of these questions. I would sincerely appreciate if anyone of you could please help me with this. Also, thank you very much for your time and efforts. I would be happy to assign reward points to any informative responses.
Regards,
Alok

Refer to this link
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_nw70/helpdata/EN/6e/fb9442047b0831e10000000a1550b0/frameset.htm
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/sdn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/5045b3cc-acbe-2910-2bab-8d930cb31a33
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Easy Cost Planning: Calculation Row (Business Process) in Cost Model Derivation Rule

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Using the Cost Model I am able to do up to Sub-Total Value. I tried with Calculation Row (Business Process) in the Cost Model Derivation Rule, but could not succeed.
I tried with Base Planning Object, but the formulas are different for other scenarios. Which require 5 to 6 Base Planning Objects are required to be created to get the total amount for a single line item, in the construction project there will be more than 10,000 line items and it is very difficult to maintain the data and also it is time consuming.
Can you suggest me, how to map the requirement?
Best Regards,
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You need to check the following for the material cost to appear in network costing:
1. Check whether costing variant is assigned to the network or not.
2. Check whether costing relevancy indicator is checked in material component assigned to the network.
3. If costing variant exists, check the valuation variant and strategy sequence for material valuation.
4. Go to the material master and see whether price is mentioned or not.
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Edited by: Ahmed Rifaee on Mar 28, 2010 10:10 PM

Best practice business process models

We have been using ARIS for well over a year now for realizing our vision for Business Process Management.
Recently, the management has been looking for ways to benchmark, evaluate and compare our processes with that being practised else where in the world, with a view to ensure requisite process controls, automation, transparency, staffing levels and KPI's.
Having said that, we tried to search for ready-made out-of-the-box ARIS business process models (up to level 4) in areas such as Human Capital Management, Supply Chain (Procurement), Supplier Relationship Management and others, but we were unable to find any source. While we did find purchasable ARIS processes for ITIL, but other than that our search had yield no result.
Are we approaching this right? and is there such a source available from SAP or any third-party vendors?
Regards,
Muhammad Hamdan

Hi Sunita,
The concept of development component are relevent from desing time perspective , at runtime there is no difference whether you create Model + Component + Application in one DC or multiple . The DC concept helps to increase the reusability and guides to have better design of your application . For example if you have model in a DC while your Components + UI in seperate DC . Changes in Model ( Reimport / Delete / ...) could be well abstracted from using DC . More over the same model DC could be re-used at multiple places /DCs.
As far as performance is concerned yes it increases from dc build and application development point of view.
I would suggest to have model in seperate DC as this is better desing approach and offers maintenability.
regards
Dhawal

Business Process Modelling Language Desirable Features

Hi All,
It will be quite interesting to see what features the BPX community would want to be in the Visual Business Process Modelling *** programming language which on one end use self-contained applications that use Web services as activities that implement business functions and on the other has interactions with other J2EE like web components .
For example I would like to see something developed by SAP where the Business Process mapping can be done with a strict protocol in ARIES so that applications can be built in the Visual composer and the BPX can visually do the one or more of the following
1.     On Screen chain End Chain valdiation
2.     Loop conditions
3.     Branching conditions
4.     Variable initialization
5.     Web service message preparation
The idea being the BPX can generate a running prototype for pattern based processes through grahhical interfaces and unless something really typical needs to be done, the coding can be eliminated.
Taking an example:
On a simple sales order if the stock is not adequate a purchase order needs to be fired.
The Business process mapping of the same can be done in ARIES where some available components (business objects like sale order) from R3 etc are available for modeling.
If this process is to be web enabled then one can use the business process modeling to develop a quick application in Visual Composer where one can use ESA for Sale Order as a Model and build screens based on that. The screen flow can also be built in Visual Composer to take you to through the various tabs.
The data flow across the various tabs also can be done through the component controller and the BPX should be able to map that visually.
The business event (Stock < Sale order quantity ) can be handled through a branching condition and web service message preparation to either generate a email message or fire a purchase order (handled in XI and exposed in one common place of the Business Process modeling Tool).
Marilyn : thanks for the offer of acting as a interface between the SAP development team and some of us with the wishlist. I would certainly love to be involved in the epochal development

Why leaving the tool? Why ARIS and VC and CAF and many more different tools?
I would prefer a tool that gives me - depending from the user - different flavors and views of my model. A tool that in one flavor allows me to define the process on a higher level, then in another flavor allows me to implement the application(s) of the process in a non-coding approach and then a flavor that allows me to pimp the application(s) with a coding approach.
All three flavors are working on the very same model. The different flavors immediately see the changes done by other flavors. A kind of realtime modelling.
The tool itself is not necessarily a single-environment approach, but can have one flavor running in the browser, the other one in a locally installed IDE. But still all of them use the same terminology. A data service here ,is a data service there, Business Object here is a Business Object there (and not a bean or a class or entity service etc.). That also would allow to have the different modeling users naturally move between the flavors, with a hard core programmer also being able to move to the Business Process Modeling tool, and the BPX also being able to write a small conversion routine.
Perhaps the proper term is "BP & App Suite", which serves all types of modelers involved: Business Process Modelers, Business Process Experts, Developers.
In the SAP world these tools could be: ARIS, Visual Composer, DevStudio/ABAP Workbench/.NET.
Today this is not the case: we have more than 200 tools (and we say we are not a tools company) and not really an exchange of models between those tools. Not to mention the different terminology...

Business Process Modeling in SAP Solution Manager

Hi.
Even ther an Solution Manager space, i wish to get some opinion related to Business process Modeling.
We are working in an upgrade project. R/3 4.6 C to ECC 6.0. The customer decide to use Solution manager to map their process, based on the transactions of the new version.
Company Business Process:
1.Based on ISO standards.
2.By product line
3.The process are defined using an structure with 4 Levels: Macro Process, Business scenarios, Business Process and Steps/activities.
There are 2 possibilities to map the process into the Sap Solution Manager:
1. Map the process by component.
- Single Project
-It means to make a list of all sap components with their process without mattering the business process.
-Each product line can be a variant for an specific process. e.g: Sales by line
2. Map the process as ISO Standards
- Several projects : For each product line
Which cold be the better option in order to:
- Easy configuration activities
- Easy design of Unit and integration test
- Easy activities of Process enhancement and optimization
Theres another option?
Thanks
Alvaro Hernán Rojas R

Hi Alvaro Hernán Rojas R ,
The product line is the hierarchy of the finished goods.
It is pertinent that the finished goods has emerged due to some process(es) carried on the raw material.
Thus logically you should map in solution manager based on the process only.
The macro process while depicts the processes at the highest level.The Business scenarios, Business Process gives a good idea about how you should go about configuring.The Steps/activities helps you to map in to SAP thro' T/Codes.
From the point of view of all of the below three,namely,
Easy configuration activities
Easy design of Unit and integration test
Easy activities of Process enhancement and optimization,
the option Map the process as ISO Standards
- Several projects : For each product line,will be most ideal.
It is the processes that drives the activities.The control activities like internal control etc are all process based.Given these,divorcing the business process from the configuration -as in -is certainly not a good practice.
Hope this helps.
Regards,
Ramesh

SAP XI and Business Process Modelling and Monitoring

hi All,
Could anybody tell me whether SAP XI has any Business Process Modelling tools or any Process Monitoring tools?
If any, are these analogous to IBM WBIs Modeller and Monitor? Also does SAP XI provide any human interaction?
Regards,
Shree Norway

Hi,
In the XI-Repository you can build Business Procces with the Process Builder.
for Monitoring you can use the Workflow Monitoring on XI.
See also Transaction "SXMB_MONI_BPE"
Regards,
Robin

Business Process Modelling

Hi,
What would be the 5 main things required during Business Process Modelling?
Thanks

Could you be more specific?
Are you interested in the skills involved? (e.g. BPMN, facilitation sessions, knowledge of the business)
Are you interested in a knowledge of the artifacts (activities / tasks)?
Tough to answer unless you can narrow it down a bit.
Dan

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Many Change Management interventions are based on the business understanding the TO BE processes, how the process will change end-to-end, including not only the processes within SAP but also how they will interface with the entire application landscape. Id like to hear experiences and best practices. Who, how and when should those business process models be completed? What would be the role of Change Management in this piece?

Hi Claudia
Very interesting question!. This is the most challenging task an org unit is facing today. Before implementation you must be able to foresee what impact a new end to end business process would have on the present organizational set up. To visualize you need to have people who has knowledge in their respective business. It is no easy task. That is why you need to break & analyse each process in minute detail and compare to be process with the present process. To have an effective process in place you have to examine who is the Business process owner, if the owner does not follow or comply with the new process what is the risk involved, & what makes it mandatory that the process owner follows it and so is all down the line managers. What I mean to say is that by analyzing each and every new process you should be able to derive some KPI from this. This is how control can be built. This is all simple management technique but I have seen many new processes in ERP failing or not being used because of lack of Management control. I have answered who & how part. Now coming back to when part. The change management initiative has to start long before the actual ERP implementation. One has to prepare the organisation for taking a massive leap from a mere paper based organisation to accepting a system that can touch almost any business application. An organisation which has not prepared itself to accept the changes and hurriedly implements a system for the sake of project completion can see that the benefits projected in the business case may never be realized.
Reward points if found useful
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Alok Sengupta

Having variations of same business process, How to model?

Customer has several variations of the same business process. How to model them in Solution manager's project implementation tools? I actually created this same question in 'Business process expert' forum, so please read the whole story there and earn your points there.
Having variations of same business process, How to model?
Best regards,
Kimmo

Hi Kimmo,
I wouldn't use process steps to refine processes. This is incompatible to SAP implementation content coming from BPR (Business Process Repository). But a good idea would be to copy the main business process e.g. "Sales order processing" into two new processes on the same level, e.g. "Sales order processing by manual input" (variation1) or "Sales order processing by incoming interface" (variation2). Then you can use the Compare Button on the variations to see if any changes have been on the main business process and copy them to the variations. This minimizes the effort to keep track of changes after creating the variations. When you run transaction SA_PROJECT_UPGRADE on that project these changes even get flagged. Mostly this function is used to upgrade against BPR or a template project but it works also for copies inside a project e.g. to model variations.
Regards
Andreas

A short survey: Business Process Modeling Tools

Hi everybody,
my name is Leonie Fütterer and I am a student at the Karlsruhe Institute of Technology. I do research on freeware business process modeling tools.
Please take two minutes and help me by completing the following survey. The results will be released in february 2011 in terms of an academic paper.
www.bpm-toos.net
Thank you!
If you have any questions, don't hesitate to contact me (see link above)!
Leonie Fütterer

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