Dual Layer Compatibility

Using Encore 2.0 to author a dual layer DVD. I have set the rate at 7 for the m2v and before I begin authoring I am just curious what everyones experience has been with Compatibility. What is the success rate? 50%? 70%? Also what is the best medium to burn to? TDK? Memorex? Sony? Verbatim? None of the above.
Thanks for any help.
Stephen

>Also what is the best medium to burn to? TDK? Memorex? Sony? Verbatim?
For DVD+R DL: Verbatim. :)

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