Dummy cost centres to Hierarchy

Hi Experts and friends,
We have a requirement to add several dummy cost centres to the existing costcentre hierarchy. My requirement is like this.
0HIER_NODE       RP-CRM                     1
0HIER_NODE       RP-CRM-ESCCM        2
0COSTCENTRE    GB300                       3
Those 1 and 2 are existing and I need to add 0costcentre GB300 as a dummy ,like this I need to add several dummy one. Can I do this straight from hirarchy enhancement. But there I could not find costcentre GB300 when I use f4.
Could you please share your exp on this.
Best regards.

Manually maintain the dummy data values or load from a flat file to the masterdata tables. You cant use values(though they are dummy), if they are not present in the masterdata table.
Yes you can maintain the hierarchy manually. But the question would be, what happens to ur dummy values, when you load the hierarchy again from the esource system next day .. wont ur dummy values be overwritten -
if you are not planning to load this data, or make a copy of hierarchy to use for certain reports - you should be fine.

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