Dummy ppm in apo

Hi,
I am trying to create a dummy ppm so the planner can see in proudct planning table, product view periodic, for the given art. a "dummy line" and its able to create planned orders. But the planner should not be able to convert the planned order into a production one.
I tried to add a dummy ppm to an existing ppm but the dummy ppm gets automatically the ppm nr as a normal ppm.
and we are stll able to convert planned orders to prod ones in ppt.
I thought also about creating a prouction version in r3, transfer it to apo, and then delete the prod version in r/3 but not in apo.
this solution brings the disadvantage that the apo orders are then not transferred to r3 and hence no secondary demand will be created for the components in r3, only in apo. which leads to a difference in stocks in r3 and apo and we have then plenty of hanging orders in cif postprocessing
Has someone any idea how I could solve this?
Wojciech

Hi Sofie,
One basic thing you can do is doing consistency check on integration model (in CFM1) when it is created.
In case of PDS this consistency check is defunct. It mostly does not check anything.
This will indicate errors like 'resource not available in APO'.
Few things you can ensure:
Resource should be available in APO
There should be some timing in the routing. (if the control key is scheduling relevent).
Regards,
Nitin

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