DVCPRO HD 1080i 59.97 or 29.97

Hi, I have a lot of DVCPRO HD Tape to digitize. And the crew dosen't know if they shoot in 29.97 or 59.97. I can capture it in both frame rate and they both play fine. If I use the 'abort capture on drop frame' with the 29.97 it stop capturing after 2-3 minutes . if im in 59.97 it stop after about 21 frame... If I don't use it the both capture of course, but some clip frezees and make the clip offsync...
Also the clip that I capture in 59,94 only appears to have 29.97 in the timeline.. even in my clip setting... weird..
Im using an ajhd 1400 deck. Does anybody know how can I figure out witch fps they used ?

1080i is only 29.97 fps. 720p is 59.94. 1080i60 means 60 interlaced fields...30fps. So choose the DVCPRO HD 1080i60. The inability to capture is most likely due to the hard drive you are trying to capture to. What kind of drive is it? How is it formatted? How is it connected? You only have one firewire bus so unless you have an additional firewire card.
Shane

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