Edit to tape with Kona Lhe

At work tomorrow, I have to lay a 59.94 sequence on to a DVCPRO HD deck with no firewire option. So I'm using my Kona Lhe with SDI output and deck control. A couple things to ponder... Audio and Video ARE getting to the deck through the SDI. I am able to crash record with no problem. I am able to black and code the tape. No problem there. I black the tape from 58:30 to shortly past 1 hour, 30 seconds. I set my "In Point" to 59:00, but when I go to assemble record the sequence, the "Insert", "Assemble", and "Preview" drop zones are disabled. We tried an SR deck and the drop zones were working, but when it went to start the edit to tape, it rewound the deck all the way to the beginning of the tape and then sat there. Tried every possible combination of device preferences. I gotta figure this out if I want to work here again. Patrick, I'm looking in your direction.

This guy was trying to do the same thing:
http://forums.creativecow.net/readpost/8/923999?pview=t#head
But...you don't have ASSEMBLE as an option? And you are dragging the sequence from the browser into the EDIT TO TAPE window, right?
Shane

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This is kind of an emergency because i am in the process of logging a feature film. I am using the Kona LHe card to capture analog audio and video with the JVC BR-HD50 HDV deck. It is 720p24 HDV footage converted to analog DVCProHD 720p59.94 footage through the Kona. My issue is that the audio is about 4 or 5 seconds unsycned with the video...I am also getting some audio popping. The audio sounds fine when listening through the line mixer but it pops when i play back though FCP. I already contacted AJA (the makers of Kona) and they its a FCP problem...Any prompt help would be greatly appreciated...
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Welcome to the forums!
What version of FCP are you running? If you can, get to the most current version as this solves a lot of issues with the DVCPRO HD codec.
And have you read this whitepaper?
http://www.aja.com/pdfs/AJAwhitepaperHDV.pdf
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Hi Everybody!
Ok here is another question, I am capturing with my Kona LHe,and also with firewire in FCP 6. When capture with my kona I cant get a full screen in the 525i mode? what is the best setting to capture DVCPRO50? for DVD using the Kona? I ran a bunch of test and I could seem to get a full screen capture using the Kona, but only with DVCPRO HD codec. Should I just capture with firewire instead? if so which codec in "Easy Setup"? I am also getting another Cal Duo, that will give me to , to "strip" together for more speed as Caldigit said it will work just fine. I ran some test with different codecs using ProRes 422 settings, also, and the HDV captures, with the sequence settings look real impressive all the way through DVDSP to my Sony HDTV in SD, and also the DVCPRO HD, captured from the KONA, looked fabulous too., Your thoughts and imput are all greatly welcome!
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I have a Power Mac G5 Quad, and it makes noise with fan kicking on after it goes to the sleep mode? I took all the 3rd hardware off it, memory, drives and etc. The LHe Kona I have installed and when my quad is put on the "sleep" mode the fans kick on?, but when I move my mouse it stops? Anyone of you guy have this problem?
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Hi
Cool thank for the info, now I know I am not alone, hmmm tried taking out all the hardware added hardware too, made it stop, as I tested each area, drive, memory, Kona card, etc, just going to bite the bullet, dont know what else to do, contacted support, no answers hmmm T.

Edit to tape with frame rate conversion

Hi,
I'm outputting a 23.976 sequence directly onto a 29.97 drop frame HDCAM SR tape. Seems to work fine, the 3:2 pulldown is there, timecode is OK. Since this project is to be delivered for a national television network, I'd like to know about any possible flaw in this workflow. I know I will have trouble matching timecodes if I want to make inserts on tape but apart from that...? Any thoughts about how reliable this workflow is?
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Using a capture card no doubt, right?
I've done this more than a few times. I can even insert edit when I need to. Didn't have an issue. Because the IN point in FCP is set, and the IN point on the tape is set. And the card handles the duration conversion.
Darn reliable. I only had one hiccup in 24 outputs.
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How do you edit to tape with captions?

Howdy,
Captions are in sequence, show up in the program panel and are in 708. VANC is enabled. Where do I go from here? Is it supposed to ask me if I want to export with captions (like it does when you export media)?
Thanks,
Dana

Captions are very confusing to me at this moment. I've been captioning for the last 18 years so I'm very familiar with 608 captioning. 708 captions on the other hand are acting bizarre. Yesterday we captioned a show and we saw captions from head to tail. Great. When I checked captions the weirdness begins. Naturally when you finish laying a show to tape your at the end of the show. So I rewound the tape 2 minutes to check sync and no captions. On our scopes I can see the pip on line 9 (vanc area) and I can tell the data is active but no display of captions. If I rewind to the start of the show captions are there. I can play all the way thru the show and captions are there. But if I'm playing the show and watching captions and change the input to our QC CC monitor and then changed it back no captions will be displayed. The only way I can rationalize this is there must be header info that plays at the beginning of the CC file that interprets the 708 data but if you start ( or tune in) in the middle of the show there is interpretation going on and then no CC is displayed.
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Edit to Tape... intermitant error with start T/C

Having a problem using assemble & insert edit.. when outputting using Edit to Tape with a start T/C at 01:00:00:00, the first frame often starts at 00:59:59:24 (PAL so that's one frame early).. doesn't happen all the time, but enough to be really annoying...
Am using a KONA LS video card with a black burst generator. First noticed the problem years ago with a DSR11 outputting to DVCAM and assumed it was probably an issue with the DVCAM deck being useless, but this is happening with a DVW500.. so it's rather annoying as it causes all sorts of problems with audio finish etc.

timecode needs to be set to internal regen after you preset and stripe about 10 seconds ahead of your sequence start time. so if you need to start bars at 58;30;00 start stripe at 58;20;00 and go past 58;30;00. then do your assemble with deck set to internal regen.
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Is edit to tape possible with a HDV timeline?

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I´m working with Final Cut 5.1 and I´m trying to export my HDV timeline to a HDV recorder(Sony HVR-M10E). Print to video is working but edit to tape not.
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nope...
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Edit to tape confusing drop frame and non drop frame

This is a re-creation of a dead thread I found from June 6, 2006. This is the exact problem this other user was having.
OS 10.4.7
FCP 5.0.4
Dual G5 2.5
4.5 GB RAM
KONALH
Trying to edit to a Sony DVW-A500 (Digibeta) in Drop Frame mode.
Read Below for deets.
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames at the end of one hour.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

So is the timeline a drop frame timeline, starting at 1:00:00:00?
And then is the DBeta tape prestriped (at least enough to do an assemble edit) to start the program at 01:00:00:00?
In other words, is the FCP timeline timecode matching the Dbeta tape timecode in a 1:1 relationship before you attempt to Edit to Tape?
Thinking further: FCP can't really confuse the two timecodes, it's dependent on the operator to tell it what to do. When it outputs it's not outputing timecode or looking even really looking for timecode. It's looking for your IN point in the Edit to Tape tool.
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Drop-Frame v. Non-Drop Frame and Edit to Tape

System Configuration: G5 Dual 2.0, QT v7.0.4, FCP v5.0.4, OS X v10.4.6, KonaLH, Keyspan USA-28x USB-->Serial Adapter
Problem: When working with a drop-frame sequence, and editing to tape, the program is edited to the tape with an offset of 3 seconds and 18 frames.
Reproducible: Yes.
Steps to Reproduce:
1. Create a drop-frame sequence.
2. Edit the sequence in step 1.
3. Perform an edit to tape with the sequence edited in step 2.
What should happen: The sequence should be edited to tape at the time it occurs in the timeline.
What does happen: The sequence is edited to the tape 3 seconds and 18 frames after it should be!
Other observations: 3 seconds and 18 frames is exactly how much time is not in an hour of drop-frame time when compared to non-drop frame time. If you drop two (2) frames in every minute that does not end in zero, the math works out to 2*54=108 dropped frames in an hour. For the sake of simple mathematics, lets say there are 30 frames in a second. So 108/30= 3 with a remainder of 18, or 3 seconds and 18 frames.
It's as if FCP is getting confused about drop and non-drop timecode when the sequence is drop-frame. If anyone can offer any insights, confirmation, or resolutions for what I am seeing, it would be appreciated.
Thanks for reading!

This may be related to a "bug" or issue that has been around since FCP1. When FCP is using deck control over firewire, The timecode display will default to DF, even if the tape is NDF. Look closely at the timecode dispays in the edit to tape window. If you see a semicolon before the frames place, FCP is seeing the tape TC as DF. Play the tape until you see the TC display change to NDF, then re-set your in point. This has worked for me in the past.
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Has anyone figured out the workflow for final cut pro and getting video back out to tape using
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or
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with "edit to tape" I get an "unable to initialize" error where it tells me to check the audio/video settings.
with "print to video"
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FCP5 and Send back to Tape (Edit to Tape)

Help, I can't seem to figure this out.
Sony FX1, FCP 5, Firewire.
I am just brain dead, I have tried and failed.

Hi FCP Folks,
It just doesn't seem like FCP 5.0.3 and the Sony HDR-FX1 have been friends long enough to communicate well together. Capturing is no problem. But, 'Edit-To-Tape' is a no-go. Does anyone have a list of known-correct settings or any other app/camera configuration details that would let me 'Edit to tape' with my HDR-FX1?
After trying MANY different combinations of settings I can report that the error is consistently, "Not returning timecode" FCP does not complain it can't communicate with the device - but it never seeks to a place on the tape or goes into the record mode.
Should I write this up a bug?
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does anyone know if this deck allows edit to tape through firewire? Does the 1200 deck do this as well?

I may disagree with that answer. I am currently trying to "Edit to Tape" with a 1400 and not having much luck.
Here's the way I've got it set up and the frustrating results.
The 1400 is connected via firewire 400(on it's own bus, I have an internal raid and additional drives on another firewire card) and I have control of the deck via 422. I am able to view footage thru the deck and control the deck in Edit to Tape but as soon as I go to assemble edit or insert edit to tape the firewire connection is lost. (it blinks on the deck) I was able to strip a tape with correct timecode but not able to lay any footage down.
Print to Video works but that's pretty lame.
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Having trouble with audio edit to tape, print to video ok

Hi all, please go easy on me, this is my first post.
I am having difficulty getting audio on to tape via 'edit to tape'.
The hardware is blackmagic decklink extreme, feeding component video and analoge audio to a UVW-1800P.
I can do a print to video on a crash record and the audio works that way, but edit to tape does not.
I have tried both deck link and built in audio in the audio settings and the FCP a/v settings, seperate and ganged output settings, I have set the insert settings to 2 channel Sony, reloaded the decklink drivers.
The irritating thing is the audio is there whilst cutting, but as soon as I try edit to tape there is complete silence. The important thing is that it worked a few weeks back but does not now, it must be a setting?
Thanks in advance for your help.
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I had this same problem and this resolved it for me:
-Go to your "Settings" icon and click on the "General" tab.
-About 2/3 way down the page you will see "Use side switch to:" - make sure "mute" is checked rather than "lock rotation."
-Then make sure the side switch, located next to the volume toggle switch on the side of your ipad, is moved to the right (no red dot showing).
My audio worked fine in embedded videos after I did those two things. Hope it works for you.

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I have tried to edit to tape and print to video a sequence (0my whole project, worked for way too many nights to let go... so frustrated and sad right now because it doesn't work.
The project is saved on an extern harddisk, my harddrive on teh pc is too full (not big enough).
My camera and FCP connects but all the time I get an error that 'the tape may be locked' . AND I HAVE TRIED WITH DIFFERENT TAPES, none of them were locked!
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You're going to have to use a dvd authoring program. Burning the seq to a dvd qill just create a qt movie on a dvd data disc. It won't create a dvd video disc that plays in a dvd player.
Export from fcp a QT movie, current settings, self-contained. Use Anamorphicizer (http://mac.softpedia.com/get/Video/Anamorphicizer.shtml) to make imovie recognise it as 16:9. Then import that file to idvd.
Or you can drop your 16:9 sequence into a new 4:3 sequence to letterbox it, then you can do the export as above but skip the anamorphicizer step.
It's better to use compressor on the original 16:9 sequence and then use dvdsp to author, but if you've never used dvdsp it's a big program to get your head round.
The export can be done in two ways;
1. Export from fcp using 'export using compressor'.
2. Export a QT ref/self-contained movie and import that into compressor.
3. Export a QT movie and import it direct into DVDSP.
The second option will take longer initially (if you use the self-contained option) but will then allow compressor to work in the background, the first option will tie up fcp for the duration of the encode.
Once in compressor use one of the 16:9 dvd presets, depending on the duration of the movie and the quality you want. Don't try to adjust the settings. If your movie is 31 mins just use the shortest option (i think it's 60min) and make sure you select the m2v video and ac3 audio options. If you just select the mpeg 2 video you'll only get video, as you've discovered.
Open dvdsp and create your opening menu and a video track, import the movie file, add it to the video track, and then add the audio to the track as well. Then add any chapter submenus you may want.

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