Editing Shapes in an External Editor?

Edit Path in Keynote is nice, but there are times when it would really be handy to be edit Keynote shapes in an external editor. I can Copy/Paste a shape from Keynote into an external editor (like VectorDesigner) and edit it but whenever I copy a shape from an external editor (VectorDesigner, Intaglio, etc.) and paste it into Keynote, it always gets pasted as a PDF and I can't edit it further within Keynote.
Does anyone know a way of moving editable shapes from Keynote to another program and back again? I've tried saving as SVG in the external editor and doing an Insert Choose... in Keynote but it seems that Keynote always interprets things as non-editable PDFs.

Waaay back in the day when I realized how close SVG was to Keynote's shapes, I went around to all the Mac-only devs and pitched the idea. The only one that bit was the EazyDraw developers. A few emails later and we had a working solution (they even changed a feature to the app to accommodate one shape being cut out of the other). As of now, that is still the ONLY solution for exporting a shape document out of a drawing app directly to a Keynote file.
I'd thought that once that threshold was crossed, everyone else would be wanting to at least match that feat, but no go... I even talked to the companies in person at Macworld and still no interest. So, hat's off to Dekorra Graphics!

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Can I edit JPEGS in an external editor, NOT TIFFS?

Hi,
I've been using Aperture for a while now, but I Just got photoshop and I'd like to edit some photos (JPEGs not RAWs) in Photoshop. When I edit them, Aperture converts the files to HUGE TIFFs and I can edit and save the TIFF in photoshop and then a new image appears in my aperture library (a TIFF) with the edits. That's all fine and everything, but how do I convert my newly edited TIFF back into a JPEG? I don't see any advantage to having a 50 MB TIFF file instead of a 2 MB JPEG (and the original TIFF was converted to a jpeg, so any compression artifacts are actually stored in the TIFF).

J-a-x wrote:
That sort of sounds like an archaic way of doing it. Why is it that iPhoto lets me edit a jpeg in an external editor no problem but not Aperture. Does that mean that Aperture, despite being a "pro" application is less advanced in this sense than iPhoto?
No. Editing in JPEG is not part of a professional workflow. JPEG is a (useful) lossy format used for final file delivery only, and then only when absolutely necessary. iPhoto is aimed to include amateur users, so JPEG usage is facilitated to a degree that would be inappropriate for a professional app.
-Allen Wicks

Editing iPhoto photos in external editor, i.e., PSE

iMac running Mavericks OS.
From iPhoto, when I click a photo to edit in external editor (PSE), I am taken to the pse editor, but my photo is not.
Why is the photo not appearing?

Because you chose the logical file instead of the correct one as your external editor. The PSE icon at the top level of the PSE folder in Applications is just an alias for the welcome screen. The actual editor is buried way down in support files:

When editing a photo with external editor I can't open that photo in viewer

When I edit a photo in an external program like NIK Collection after I save the photo I can't open any pictures anymore in Aperture. Mosaic and grid view is no problem but in full Viewer nothing happens. When I restart Aperture I can, untill the next edit.....

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Edit frame in external editor?

Sorry for the newbie question. Is there an easy way to edit frames in an external editor (Photoshop, whatever)?
I have some video take from film that has some scratches I'd like to clean up. It's only a handful of frames, so it would be easy to do in a photo editor. I suppose I could export a frame or frame sequence, edit them, and import them back in. The problem is that I'd need to match up the stills to their original frames, make the the right length, etc. Not impossible, but certainly not simple. I'm hoping there's an easier way?
By the way, I tried the manual "object remover" method, which involves a cloned clip placed over the clip in question, and cropping/transforming to cover the scratch with a section from somewhere else, but in this particular instance there's no easy place to get a cover-up section that matches. (Hope that made sense.)
Ideas?
Dan

Thanks for the reply. I have SliceX, but as I mentioned in my post, for these particular videos, there's no good area from which to clone. I suppose it would be possible, but *very* tedious to get the selection that exact. Perhaps I'm just not coordinated enough.
I've discovered a workflow which works well for me - easier than I thought it would be. I'll show it here, in case it helps anyone else:
Isolate the frames in question by using the Blade tool and separating them into their own section - this makes lining up the result frames easier when you paste them back in.
Export the section as a frame sequence.
Import the frames in iPhoto. I know, this sounds silly, but actually, iPhoto's Touchup tool is awesome for tasks like this. Way better (to me) than Adobe Photoshop Elements.
In iPhoto, when you start editing a frame, it has a strip at the bottom showing all the frames, and it's easy to switch between frames. This makes it easy to verify your touchups against the other frames.
When done, I choose to drag the files from iPhoto to a folder. I suppose you could also import them inside FCPX from its reference to iPhoto - but this seemed easier to me. Perhaps I'm wrong - I will try the other way next time.
iPhoto does reduce the image quality slightly - I'm guessing this, since the file sizes are much smaller. But for what I'm working on, it's not noticeable.
I drag the photos back into the Event, and into the original timeline.
I select all of them, hit Ctrl+D and change the duration to 1 frame.
Voila! Done. Not so hard after all. I'm amazed that iPhoto makes this so easy.
The only thing that iPhoto does that makes this a slightly longer process, is that when you switch from frame to frame, it resets the Zoom & Pan, and un-selects the Touchup tool. Not that big a deal, but if you've zoomed and panned to a specific place, it would be nice if all the frames opened up the same way, so you can check your results against the other frames. I wonder if Adobe Photoshop Elements does this - I'll have to check. As I said, not the end of the world. But *so* close to perfection...
All in all, I can remove a scratch from, say, 15 frames, pretty quickly. I'll have to time myself next time I do this, now that I've got the workflow down.
Dan

Why are original photos now showing in events after editing in external editor?

In iPhoto 9 before the more recent updates, when I edited photos in an external editor all I saw in the event was the revised photo. Now I see both the original and the revised copy. I know I can hide these but never had to do this before. In addition, if I use reveal in finder the file shows two copies in the original or master file, both appear to be the same though the additional one is designated 2. This could increase my photo file considerably. What is the purpose of this new procedure and can it be revised?
Also, some of the context menu items removed and now one has to go to the menu or start learning the keyboard shortcuts. I am not sure that iPhoto has been improved.

iPhoto has been doing this since iPhoto 11 (v9) was released, not since the recent update. Let Apple know how you feel if you're not happy.
IPhoto menu -> Provide iPhoto Feedback
No, there is no way to change any of these things back.
Regards
TD

External editors and read-only folders

I'm trying to use LR4 to work on NEF images I'd imported from a read-only directory. While regular LR4 editing works, using an external editor doesn't because LR4 insists on trying to write a file into that read-only directory. Is there a way to persuade LR4 to put the files it uses to communicate with external editors somewhere else? I intentionally want to keep my NEF directories read-only because they're synced with other programs (which would get upset by LR4 sneaking extra files in there) and because I don't want to accidentally alter anything there.

Not for secondary editors.
Only the primary Photoshop CSx can open a file wihtout creating it first. Then tiy ba use Save As from Photoshop to choose another location.

Using an external editor with Apple Photos

After upgrading to Os X 10.10.3 today and using the new Apple Photos app for the first time, I was very disappointed not to find a way to edit photos in an external editor, as I could do with iPhoto. Sure, I can export the image file, edit it in another program, save it, and then re-import it, but that is somewhat of a kludge IMO compared to the smooth way this function worked in iPhoto. I'm happy with the expanded editing options available within Apple Photos, but some things simply can't be done within it. Please, Apple, make adding this capability a priority task for the first upgrade to Apple Photos! Or is it available already and I just missed it?
Regards, Jim

In my case, I open Photoshop Elements, then choose Open File. I find the photo that I want to work with under "Photos". When I am finished editing, I save the file to "Pictures" giving it a name I can remember. Then I import it into the new version of iPhoto (called Photos) from "Pictures".
The Media Browser in the Media section of the Sidebar is very convenient to use the library in other apps, but it will not always pass the original Master file to the When you are using the Media Browser like this, you will get mixed results, depending on whether the photo already has been edited or not.
When I pass a photo to PSE using the "Photos" icon in the Media section to PSE
For an unedited photo, PSE will receive the original master file, not as copy, but the original in the Masters folder in the library.
For an edited photo it will receive an optimised version and not the original file, stored in "resources > modelressources" in your photos library. As far as I can see, the photos in "modelressources" are the same pixel size, but have a higher JPEG compression than the originals in the Master folder. The file size is slightly less.
So, for edited photos you may be using a lesser quality image file, when you access the library using the Media Browser.
Be careful, when you open unedited photos this way. With "Save as" in PSE you can write your edits directly back to the Masters folder and overwrite the original master file.
I just tried to edit an unedited photo this way in PSE:
That is how the Photo looked in Photos before editing:
After editing a frame in PSE 12 I am seeing this "Save As" dialog in PSE:
It will write back to the Photos library into the Masters folder.
After allowing PSE to overwrite file it received the file, I am seeing this, when I try to edit the version. Photos is now using the replaced original file, that PSE wrote to the Masters folder.
I duplicated the photo in Photos before sending it to PSE, but since the duplicate is sharing the same original file with the first version, now bothe the first image and its unedited duplicate are both showing the frame added in PSE:

When using external editor, iPhoto does not re-import the .psd file

Hi,
I've just started using Photoshop Elements 6 as a more advanced editor in iPhoto. When I do the 'External Edits' wihtout adding layers etc. and re-save as a JPEG then the photo will re-appear in iPhoto as the edited file.
However if I do the external edit and add layers then save as a .PSD, then the file does not update.. I have to save the .PSD file in a desktop folder then import the file after.
Is there anyway to force iPhoto to pick up the .PSD automatically after an update if I save it to the iPhoto library?
Thanks,
Glyn

Glyn:
The folllowing might be of some help:
Using Photoshop (or Photoshop Elements) as Your Editor of Choice in iPhoto.
1 - select Photoshop as your editor of choice in iPhoto's General Preference Section's under the "Edit photo:" menu.
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
NOTE: With Photoshop Elements 6 the Saving File preferences should be configured: "On First Save: Save Over Current File". Also I suggest the Maximize PSD File Compatabilty be set to Always.
If you want to use both iPhoto's editing mode and PS without having to go back and forth to the Preference pane, once you've selected PS as your editor of choice, reset the Preferences back to "Open in main window". That will let you either edit in iPhoto (double click on the thumbnail) or in PS (Control-click on the thumbnail and seledt "Edit in external editor" in the Contextual menu). This way you get the best of both worlds
2 - double click on the thumbnail in iPhoto to open it in Photoshop. When you're finished editing click on the Save button. If you immediately get the JPEG Options window make your selection (Baseline standard seems to be the most compatible jpeg format) and click on the OK button. Your done.
3 - however, if you get the navigation window that indicates that PS wants to save it as a PS formatted file. You'll need to either select JPEG from the menu and save (top image) or click on the desktop in the Navigation window (bottom image) and save it to the desktop for importing as a new photo.
This method will let iPhoto know that the photo has been editied and will update the thumbnail file to reflect the edit..
If you import a psd file initially then you can edit it via the external editor, with or without layers, and do a normal save and iPhoto will recognize the changes.

Elements 8 Organiser will not load Photoshop as External Editor

For some years I've succesfully used Photoshop CS2 with Elements (various versions) Organiser as my photo file manager. The Organiser allowed me to select Photoshop as the external editor and subsequently accepted/managed the edited photos from Photoshop when I closed the file there. (I prefer the facilities of Organiser to those of Bridge; and other folk in the household prefer Elements Editor).
I recently upgraded from Photoshop CS2 to CS5 64bit. Initially Elements 8 Organiser (which is 32bit) continued to call up Photoshop (CS5) as the external editor but has now ceased to do so. There is still an option in Organiser's dropdown EDIT list to "Edit in Photoshop" and any thumbnails selected in the Organiser get the "being edited" label applied if I select the "Edit with Photoshop" option. However, Photoshop does not open; or, if I have Photoshop open already, the photos selected in Organiser do not appear in the Photoshop workspace for editing.
I cannot, either, find the "close external edit" option in Organiser. When I eventually close Organiser, it warns that I will lose any editing done with the external editor to those photos it thinks it has handed to Photoshop, even though there has not been any handover in fact.
I can chose, in Organiser, to edit the very same photos with Elements Editor, even though Organiser appears to think that they are currently being edited by Photoshop. If I do edit such a photo in Elements Editor then close it, the Organiser becomes happy and forgets it thought Photoshop was involved at all.
Is there some switch in a config file somewhere that I can throw to get the Organiser to actually call up Photoshop and hand it the file(s)? Or is this just an Adobe glitch? Any help or clues would be much appreciated.
Lataxe
NB Also posted in the Photoshop CS5 forum.

Graham,
I have tried to persuade Elements Organiser to reconsider Photoshop as an external editor by going to the "Editing" section of Elements Preferences dialogues and specifying Photoshop.exe. However, no matter which version of Photoshop.exe I point at (64bit CS5, 32bit CS5 or even the old 32bit CS2) Elements tells me that it automatically already has Photoshop as an external editor and I don't need to specify it as such.
On trying to exit the Preferences/Editing dialogue, Elements then pops up another dialogue box that tells me that "The path you chose for the external editing application is invalid. Please correct the path or choose another external editor". I need to uncheck the "Use a supplementary editing application" to stop this box re-popping.
The Elements EDIT drop down menu still shows Photoshop as an available editing application. However, as described in the original post, Photoshop does not load or pick up any file specified for Photoshop editing within Elements Organiser.
I've also tried resetting Elements Organiser Preferences to their default. This does not make any difference to the problem either. There is an Organiser glitch I think. I am begining to think it will need a Registry fix ..... but of what I have no real idea; and it isn't a good idea to mess with the Registry in a haphazard way.
Perhaps I should try a reload of Elements from scratch, after saving my Catalogue file somewhere safe?

Why use an external editor?

I have done a search on this basic question, but everyone is at least one step ahead of me. I found lots of questions about using external editors, but none on why to use one if the first place.
It's self-evident that the basic answer is to extend Aperture's capabilities. So let me narrow the focus of my question as follows:
1. Just out of curiousity, there must be at least some overlap in things that Aperture does and what the external editor can do, correct?
2. Can you share some guidelines as to when you would stay in Aperture itself and when you would use the external editor through Aperture?
3. An obvious question is why use Aperture when you have an external editor? The most likely answer is that Aperture does some things better, and the external editor does other things better. So does it come down to experience in deciding which program to use for what? As someone whose post processing has, for years, been limited to cropping, that's a pretty daunting reality. Any advice anyone can offer to offset my inexperience would be appreciated. For example, someone on a share-your-image type forum just blasted me when I posted something labled as my first effort at using a RAW file. I made "local" changes here and there in the image. He told me I'm doing things "totally wrong" and I should make global changes, and avoid making local changes. I don't know if he's right or not, but if he is, how was I to know that? So again, any advice for a PP newb would be great.
Thanks!
Ben

Good questions, Ben!
And probably the answers are a matter of taste and personal preferences, and depending on the workflow we are using.
2. Can you share some guidelines as to when you would stay in Aperture itself and when you would use the external editor through Aperture?
For me, the escape to an external editor is an occasionally necessary evil, if I really need to do things well, that Aperture cannot do. The problem is, that using an external editor will break Aperture's lossless workflow; it will create an additional original image file, and Aperture cannot undo the edits done in the external editor. And the additional original files will be gigantic 16bit tiffs or PSD files. So I would never use the external editor without a pressing need.
I use an external editor, if I need to create images with transparency or do advanced retouching that requires the composition of two or more images. That are things that Aperture cannot do.
Or, if I have images that need lens correction or perspective correction.
3. An obvious question is why use Aperture when you have an external editor?
I use Aperture first of all, to keep my images organised - my Aperture library is my database of all photos I have taken during my lifetime.
And I use Aperture to edit the images and to keep track of the edited image versions and how they relate. For 99% of my image processing needs Aperture is sufficient and great.
-- Léonie

Elements 8 Organiser won't load Photoshop CS5 as external editor

For some years I've succesfully used Photoshop CS2 with Elements (various versions) Organiser as my photo file manager. The Organiser allowed me to select Photoshop as the external editor and subsequently accepted/managed the edited photos from Photoshop when I closed the file there. (I prefer the facilities of Organiser to those of Bridge; and other folk in the household prefer Elements Editor).
I recently upgraded from Photoshop CS2 to CS5 64bit. Initially Elements 8 Organiser (which is 32bit) continued to call up Photoshop (CS5) as the external editor but has now ceased to do so. There is still an option in Organiser's dropdown EDIT list to "Edit in Photoshop" and any thumbnails selected in the Organiser get the "being edited" label applied if I select the "Edit with Photoshop" option. However, Photoshop does not open; or, if I have Photoshop open already, the photos selected in Organiser do not appear in the Photoshop workspace for editing.
I cannot, either, find the "close external edit" option in Organiser. When I eventually close Organiser, it warns that I will lose any editing done with the external editor to those photos it thinks it has handed to Photoshop, even though there has not been any handover in fact.
I can chose, in Organiser, to edit the very same photos with Elements Editor, even though Organiser appears to think that they are currently being edited by Photoshop. If I do edit such a photo in Elements Editor then close it, the Organiser becomes happy and forgets it thought Photoshop was involved at all.
Is there some switch in a config file somewhere that I can throw to get the Organiser to actually call up Photoshop and hand it the file(s)? Or is this just an Adobe glitch? Any help or clues would be much appreciated.
Lataxe

Graham,
I have tried to persuade Elements Organiser to reconsider Photoshop as an external editor by going to the "Editing" section of Elements Preferences dialogues and specifying Photoshop.exe. However, no matter which version of Photoshop.exe I point at (64bit CS5, 32bit CS5 or even the old 32bit CS2) Elements tells me that it automatically already has Photoshop as an external editor and I don't need to specify it as such.
On trying to exit the Preferences/Editing dialogue, Elements then pops up another dialogue box that tells me that "The path you chose for the external editing application is invalid. Please correct the path or choose another external editor". I need to uncheck the "Use a supplementary editing application" to stop this box re-popping.
The Elements EDIT drop down menu still shows Photoshop as an available editing application. However, as described in the original post, Photoshop does not load or pick up any file specified for Photoshop editing within Elements Organiser.
I've also tried resetting Elements Organiser Preferences to their default. This does not make any difference to the problem either. There is an Organiser glitch I think. I am begining to think it will need a Registry fix ..... but of what I have no real idea; and it isn't a good idea to mess with the Registry in a haphazard way.
Perhaps I should try a reload of Elements from scratch, after saving my Catalogue file somewhere safe?

Customizing filename when using an external editor - can only one filename be used by all editors?

I have a number of external editors defined for my LR 3.3 Win7 application. Within my Preferences, when I customize how an editor, say, Photoshop CS5, handles a file, I can set the name of the edited file - e.g., {Filename}-ed.psd . However, if I change the edited filename for another external editor, say to {Filename}-SilverEfexPro.psd, that filename is used for all externally edited files. What am I doing wrong? Thanks!
Dilip

A side note here; just because it _opens_ the file in your external editor with that name the first time, doesnt' mean that's the name it has
to be saved as. When you go to save it, select save as, instead of save. I beleive I have used this technique before, and LR still "finds" the file.
Sometimes even when I don't *want* it to find the file!
Cheers!

A Better Way to Edit RAW with External Editor?

The settings for the external editor will only let you edit the images in Tiff or PSD, I want to edit the RAW image itself. The only way I know how to do that is expert the master, edit it and then import it back in.
This is a hockey workflow and frustrating especially when I then do a quick fix in Aperture itself and then want to edit the image again externally in GIMP.
I just want to edit the RAW image in my external editor when needed, yet do my folder management within Aperture.

I was afraid of that...
I don't use lightroom or Photoshop. I used to be a Photoshop user until the cost became so prohibitive. I have since switched to using GIMP as my eternal editor, it's native files are .xcf (musch like the Photoshop .PSD) but Aperture doesn't support .xcf files and I doubt they ever will since GIMP is a free open source tool, rather than a commercial product.
I have been playing with 3.01 now for a few days and finding that the heal tool and burn and dodge tools seem to be improved. Even though in GIMP they were destructive to the original RAW file those items were noticeably better in the external editor.
Also, any extreme editing still needs to be done outside of Aperture, so I will take a Catapult or just keep my current workflow....

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

I am using both PSE 13 and Lightroom 5. When I use Lightroom as an external editor and save the photo, it shows up in PSE13 as an edited file but does not look any different. Why doesn't it appear edited?

People who have Photoshop, but don't have Lightroom, need ACR so that they can use Raw files. Without ACR they could do nothing with those (they may also like having ACR so that they can work on other kinds of image using the same kinds of adjustments and techniques, as are used with Raw files).
People who have Lightroom, can get access to Raw files regardless whether ACR is present or not. They can use Lightroom on other kinds of image also, using the same methods. LR can pass images directly into Photoshop without passing via ACR (or else does so transparently, which amounts to substantially the same thing).
ACR does not, strictly speaking, even need to be installed for this external editing to happen. In fact, not even PS needs to be - since a different image editor can be used instead, while still retaining the Adobe Raw conversion etc.
Lightroom "subcontracts out" specialised external tasks, in this workflow, but is still your "main contractor": the image is otherwise located, viewed, managed, adjusted/presented and output entirely using LR.
So IMO we can divide image processing into:
operations that involve pixels and layers and layer masks and adjustment layers etc (of the kind done inside Photoshop)
operations that involve parametric edits (of the kind done in ACR where you are not using a Lightroom based workflow; otherwise, done inside Lightroom)
When PS is called in, that's because those tasks are impossible or unsuitable to do in Lightroom. But those tasks can't be done in ACR either - by definition, since LR and ACR have exactly the same image processing "feature set".
Lightroom is irrelevant to the Bridge + ACR + PS workflow. This workflow requires both your PS and your ACR to be current enough, to support your Raw format etc.
ACR and Bridge are irrelevant to the LR + (image editor) workflow. It is in this case, only LR which needs to be current enough to support your Raw format etc.
RP

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