Elements Organiser with iPhoto

Is there any way to use Elements Organiser along side iPhoto but keep it from creating a duplicate photo library? I want to keep iPhoto as my library organizer, but wanted to use Elements Organiser periodically to use the "create" tools like cards.

You can set up the PSE Editor as your external editing application in iPhoto preferences. You can then edit photos directly from iPhoto.
http://helpx.adobe.com/photoshop-elements/kb/photoshop-elements-iphoto-mac-os.html

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Organise with iPhoto, Edit with Photoshop Elements, but avoid destructive editing

Hi All,
I prefer to use iPhoto as my photo organiser and for sharing to Facebook and Flickr, but I also prefer to use Photoshop Elements (v11) as my editor. iPhoto is configured to launch PSE for editing and it works fine. My question relates to doing non-destructive saves back into iPhoto. It appears as though I cannot have version control because doing a save overwrites the original file in iPhoto. Although I can chose to save an edited version of my image elsewhere on my MacBook I would prefer to have orginal and saved versions colocated. Is there anyway around this issue or do I have to use PSE Organiser to have version control?
I like being able to Flag a bunch of photos in iPhoto, go to the Flagged folder to share them, and the way iPhoto displays shared folders uploaded to Facebook and Flickr. PSE Organiser seems a bit convoluted.
Thanks.

Take a look at Aperture - with it you can have versions and many people have reported that its editing is robust enough that they seldom if ever use PS or PSE anymore - maybe that would give you the editing power you wnat with the nondestructive editing of Aperture and version control
LN

Using Photoshop Elements 6 with iPhoto 09 won´t update miniatures

Hi there - I´m a newbie and a recent switcher from Windows and Linux so please be gentle with me if I´m asking silly questions...
I want to use iPhoto to organize my photos and Photoshop Elements 6 (by now the trial version if that matters) to edit my photos.
I found the settings to define Photoshop as the default editor (by the way - can I still use iPhoto for simple edits by some hidden command?) and I know that I just have to use save (not save as) in Photoshop. My Problem is, that iPhoto does not reflect the changes I make in the miniatures (except for aspect ratio changes). When i double-click the edited image to enlarge it I can see, that my changes are applied to the image (I can also see the new version of the image in finder in my iPhoto-Library).
Does anybody have an idea? Thanks in advance.

By the way: do you think timemachine backups are enough?
No.
I may be a tad extreme but my photos are important to me and my family.
My Library lives on my iMac.
It’s Backed up to two external hard disks every day. These disks are permanently attached to the iMac. These back ups run automatically. One is done by Time Machine, one is a bootable back up done by SuperDuper
It’s also backed up to a portable hard disk when ever new photos are added. This hard disk lives in my car. For security, this disk is password protected. For this job I use DejaVu because it makes a simple back up that is clear and can be tested easily without doing an full restore.
I have a second off-site back up at a relative’s house across town. That’s updated every 3 or 4 months.
My Photos are backed up online. Personally I use SmugMug but there are many options including flickr. However, check the terms of your account carefully. While most sites have free uploading, you will often find that these uploads are limited in terms of the file size, or the bandwidth you can use per month. For access that allows you to upload full size pics with no restrictions you will need to pay.
Every couple of months I test the back ups to make sure they are working correctly. It’s very easy to mis-configure a back up application, and the only way to protect against that is to do a restore.
Regards
TD

Using Elements 10 with iPhoto

I have always used iPhoto 11 on my iMac for my photo editing and organising, but have decided to broaden my editing/organising opportunities by purchasing Elements 10, which I have just loaded successfully.
However, when I right click a photo in iPhoto 11 and select 'Edit in external editor' - although it opens up the Elements 10 workspace, the selected photo doesn't appear.
I've also tried changing in iPhoto's preferences (Advanced) to using Elements 10. Again, when editing is selected in iPhoto it opens up the Elements 10 workspace but not the photo.
Any idea what's going wrong here? An alternative is to drag & drop from iPhoto to Elements 10 editing workspace - which DOES work, but I shouldn't have to do that, should I ?

Thanks Barbara B, as usual very helpful. From these screen shots can you tell if I have done this correctly as per your instructions ? Is it best to store the jpegs only in the elements organizer? and keep the raw and XMP files on the hard drive or should they always be together?

Using Elements with iPhoto

Dear Friends,
What is the best way to help a Mac user who has downloaded images into iPhoto but wants to adjust them in Elements (or CS5)?
He has asked if he can move an event over to work in Photoshop, or can he only open one image at a time?
Is there way to set iPhoto so that images automatically open in Photoshop?
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http://barbarabrundage.com/2010/11/29/using-photoshop-elements-9-with-iphoto/

PS Elements saving to iPhoto problem

Help! I am using Photoshop Elements 9 with iPhoto 11 on a Mac (Mountain Lion). My original problem was that any edits I made in PSE elements (using PSE as the edit program for iPhoto) were not reflected in iPhoto. However, after bad instructions from an Apple tech about this problem, I now have an even bigger problem, which I will address here.
I cannot save any edited file from PSE back to its original location in the iPhotos library. The Save location is the last place I visited in the finder. In the past, the file would automatically be saved in the correct location. (Of course recently the edits would not show up in iPhoto, but this is another problem.)
In the past, I could open iPhoto, edit a photo in PSE, save the file, and the edited file would appear like magic in iPhoto. No more.
For what it is worth, the Apple tech had me empty all caches on the computer. For my part, I also reinstalled PSE, but nothing works. For the record, I write over the original file and save as a jpeg.
Help!

I had two problems. First, the edts made in PSE would not show up in iPhoto, even though the paths to the files were correct. Then, the paths to the original file were lost and photos were saved into the Pictures folder.
But there is now good news -- I solved the problem. The problem is Default Folder X 5.5b10 (14688). I turned it off, and suddenly everything worked. The photos update and the saves go to the correct locations.
It finally dawned on me that I had updated the software. I tried turning off Default Folder X, and all was right with the world.
Thank you to everyone for your help and suggestions. I truly appreciate your help and expertise.

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Working with iphoto AND Photoshop Elements

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I currently use iPhoto 5 and want to begin using Photoshop Elements. I am wondering if someone could share their ideas on how to go about using both programs. Here is my objective. I think that I can get more out of my photographs but moving up to Photoshop Elements. I think that perhaps this program can make better black & white photos as well as color (has more adjustments that are capable of specific controls).
That said, once I have finished with a photo, should I then import it into iPhoto?
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If I may take the opportunity to expound on this thread to incorporate my own question...
I too wish to edit in Elements and retain iPhoto as an organization tool, but have read that saving to jpg is not the best idea. After editing and/or flattening tiff is the better option, no? Anyway, the default directory in Elements in the save as dialog I believe is to the same roll the original came from, but often after an edited jpg is saved into tiff iPhoto doesn't see it. Stoplight tells me it is there, but there is apparently something about the process that iPhoto doesn't like.
Lori, can you be kind enough to expound on this?
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I am considering buying an iPad 3. I have an iMac with OSX 10.6.8. On the iMac I have many photos and work with iPhoto and Photoshop Elements on the computer. Can I interchange or transfer photos and other work from the iMac to the iPad? How?

velma Monreal wrote:
I am considering buying an iPad 3. I have an iMac with OSX 10.6.8. On the iMac I have many photos and work with iPhoto and Photoshop Elements on the computer. Can I interchange or transfer photos and other work from the iMac to the iPad? How?
Yes you can. In iPhoto create a Album with the photos you want in it. You can drag them from your Events folder. In iTunes with your iPad connected go to Photos by cliking on your iPad. You can then select the album or events you want.

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I'd like to use Organiser part of Element 9 with my new Photoshop CC to manage my photographs, is this possible ?. Photoshop CC seems to offer only the photo editing functions, with organiser I can sort, tag and organise all of the photographs.

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I'd like to use Organiser part of Element 9 with my new Photoshop CC to manage my photographs, is this possible ?

Sorry, I had missed that you were actually talking about Photoshop.
There is nothing called "Organiser" in Photoshop proper.
What does it do in PSE?
Have you familiarised yourself with Adobe Bridge yet?

Help in choosing Elements 10 Organiser or iPhoto

Can experienced users please give me some bullet point advice?
Have used full version of Photoshop 6 on PC with all photos saved in folders with Explorer file structure. The "library" is on disc retaining the same structure awaiting transfer to my new iMac v10.7.4. I have an iPad3 and will probably upgrade my "unsmart" phone to an iPhone 4 or 5 shortly. I would be grateful if any functionality advice bears in mind the use of my tablet and possible smart phone. The majority of photos are purely of the home variety and only a few will ever be modified for printing etc. A few will become art projects and may be intensively modified with versions moved to multi-media project folders once identified.
I have uploaded some photos from my camera direct to iPhoto and also imported them from there to Organiser. I haven't formatted the camera card yet. I have been experimenting with transfer procedures between the two photo managers and Editor and saving modified photos, experiencing problems and benefits and at the same time reading the forums/discussions to solve problems. On the way, I've picked up the expected do's and dont's. The main one is clearly that I need to decide between Organiser and iPhoto. The second is that both of these are a better way of managing my library than the one-dimensional "tree" structure of Finder or Explorer.
Regardless of whether new photos are managed in Organiser or iPhoto, are they saved in the same location?
Is this a location I should move my library to?
Does it matter from the point of importing and future saving that uploaded photos and library may be different locations?
Presumably it would be better to import small batches of my library at a time to either manager to aid tagging/labelling/face recognition?
Is there any benefit in my situation in uploading new photos to Finder before importing to the chosen manager.
Given my hardware, actual and potential, and usage, what are the pros and cons of Organiser and iPhoto, or if this is too big an ask, which one might seem better suited?
Thanks for reading this far.
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I'm not a Mac user, so I have no comment about Macs, iPads and iPhones.
I noted that certain photos might become intensively modified as part of art projects, the original kept in Organiser/iPhoto and the project version/s with a multi-media project folder elsewhere. Are you saying this is not possible?
I'm saying the exact opposite. Your originals can be anywhere you want them to be. Your modified photos can be anywhere you want them to be, even if that is a different location than the originals. Emphasis on the word anywhere. Emphasis on the phrase "anywhere you want them to be". Done properly, PSE has no problem with this. By the way, you'd want the modified version to be known to PSE's Organizer as well as the original. Important point: The photos, both original and modified, must be on your hard disk. They are NOT stored within the Organizer. The Organizer knows where they are, and so can make use of them. A corrollary of this is that you need to do all photo management, including moving them should you so desire, via the Organizer, and not via your operating system.
Or because you seem to favour uploading photos directly to Organiser? Is that because it is easier or functionally better?
When the photos come out of the camera (or other device), you can, in one step (if you want) copy them from the camera to their storage location on the hard disk, while simultaneously importing the photo into PSE's Organizer. One task for you the human user, but two tasks for the software. You are in complete control of where the photo gets stored. You can choose the default location, or you can choose a location that has specific meaning to you for your task.
Sounds like Barbara's advice would be very important at this point ... try the software and see if it meets your needs. PSE has a 30 day free trial.
At first, you mentioned PSE's ability to organize according to more than a single hierarchy, but your concerns seems to be putting the photos exactly where you need them, and not the organizing capabilities of PSE. I sense a disconnect here. The organizing capabilities (tags) in PSE allow you to basically ignore or forget the folder location, and so to be honest, I have no idea what folders my photos are in, but I can find them instantly by the tags in PSE; you seem to want very specific folder locations which is the opposite of my use of PSE.

Images viewed in elements organiser appear over saturated compared with acr or editor

Hi,
I've been struggling with this for some time now. When veiwing images in elements organiser (10) the images have started appearing more saturated than in either adobe camera raw or photoshop elements editor window. They used to always match. I've tried reseting all the colour presets, I've tried changing every setting I can find in acr and I've resorted to a full re-install of elements (including deleting the presets). None of thise have solved the problem.
I'm pretty sure it is the organiser view which is over saturated rather than acr / photoshop which is washed out as, although mostly quite subtle, sometimes the colours are pushed much too far. (I'm only describing it as saturation as that's how it looks - I couldn't say for sure that it is acutally a saturation setting rather than some other colour setting which is causing the issue).
Every so often organiser updates it's images as I veiw them to match acr but I've not noticed any one reason why that happens - and if I shut organser down and restart it's back to over saturation again.
Any suggestions would be greatfully recieved,
Stuart Martindale

Ken,
Thanks for getting back to me. You're right - it would seem that if I have every thing set to always optimize for computer screens then everything looks the same. Ideally I wouldn't have that set though - the photos are all taken with adobe RGB colour space and we are more given to big prints than sharing on screen.
This never used to be a problem and I've always previously optimised for printing. The pictures are definitley adobe RGB and checking in canon DPP the raw veiw there is the same as ACR so it is the initial organizer colouring which is at fault. I would rather use optimize for printing as we tend to make big prints from our photos rather than sharing electronic albums. Following the suggestion I've done some more playing with settings and found the following situations:
1) If opening organizer when set to optimize for printing the image opens with the wrong colouring. Changing to optimze for screen and update thumbnial and the colouring corrects. Changing back to optimize for printing update thumbnail and any subsequent changes and the colouring stays correct.
2) If opening organizer when set to optimize for computer screens orgainzer opens showing the right colouring. Chaning to optimize for printing and update thumbnail causes the colouring the change. Changing back to optimize for screen and the image corrects it's self. Changing back to optimize for printing and any subsequent changes and the colouring stays correct.
So in summary the first thumbnail viewing optimized for printing is over satuarated / vivid. Changing colourspace away and back seems to correct the problem.
If the colouring is correct for one photo it will update to be correct for any other images viewed.
If there is a way to make optimized for printing photos display correctly on first opening that would be great.

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