EOS 1D C or a C100?

Ok so I'm a long time canon fan, I've been shooting on a 7D for a few years and really enjoy it. The thing is I recently won a competition where they have offered me either a brand new 1D C or a C100, and having never used either camera, I was keen to get an objective opinion on which is the better option.

I don't have any firsthand experiences with those cameras, but just wanted to say CONGRATS! What a win!
To help you pick, though, it might help us to know what kind of stuff you shoot and what types of features are your priorities in a camera? (e.g. run-and-gun vs tripod-ed and carefully blocked out; lens choices, audio on-board vs not; low-light/night)
Edit: Also, if you have a C100-specific question, the Cinema EOS forum is a bit of a ghost-town and could use some "livening up". =) http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/Cinema-EOS-Discussions/bd-p/cinemaeosboard

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Video EOS discussions please

The Cinema EOS section appears to be suffering from a lack of use or interest. Numbers of C100-C500 cameras are very limited compared to the number of 5Dmkii, 5Dmkiii, 7D and others using EOS cameras for video. These posts are getting lost in the "Camera" section.
Please rename the Cinema EOS section to allow use by all EOS video shooters. Many C100-C500 shooters also use 5Dmkii, 5Dmkiii and 7D cameras. Discussion of all these products in a video discussion would be benficial.
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jfo wrote:
I disagree. The forum sections are divided naturally by product line and not usage. It'll be a whole different can of worms to manage discussion of the same products but across different usages (stills vs video, different segments within each of those categories).
A Canon T3i and a Canon 1Dx being lumped into the same discussion group is ridiculous. The discussions pros or enthusiastic amateurs have are very different than the discussions rank amateurs will have. Trying to find topics related to HDSLR video in a "Camera" group bogged down with consumers asking how to load a battery in their camera is not something most will endure. I suspect unless this forum evolves to accomodate how different people use their cameras it will become a group for complaints serviced by Canon Admin's trying to help them out. Anyone who has spent any amount of time on forums knows that the most valuable resource is the input of experienced members. If it becomes too cumbersome they will go elsewhere.
I TOTALLY agree. I'm in the trenches helping with some pretty newbie questions, but since these are genuine questions of users really trying to get to know and use their cameras, I'm excited with doing it. I think you answered your own question/request posed at the start of this topic, though.... There is absolutely the same possibility for this kind of situation for Cinema EOS owners/users in a combined "Video EOS" forum! e.g. something vague and mundane like "What's the best settings to get the best video?" A "Video EOS" forum has the potential to create the exact environmont you are warning against where 'experienced members' will not participate.
Canon has expressed that as the numbers of discussions grow, then they'll create sections to house them; otherwise there's the potential for dozens of sections to start out empty. As you pointed out, when the "EOS" board grows, it'll probably make sense to separate out the Rebel product line from the 7D, 5D, and 1D's. As of now, though 1D users and their topics aren't numerous, and I think having "pros and enthusiastic amateurs" browsing all the EOS topics/questions is AWESOME in that they are having a good attitude and sharing knowledge and advice with the lowly "rank amateurs". This is a community, and it will grow and evolve with the help of these contributors -- its a bit too soon to segregate out the "valuable resources" from the people that need their help.

EOS C100 and 5D Mark III - How to use together, match settings, etc.

I shoot with both of these cameras and wondering if anyone has a reference for matching the picture settings. For example, on the C100, there is a custom preset setting 'EOS Standard' that I assume corresponds to the 'Standard' picture style on the 5D Mk III. But, what if I want to shoot cinema locked, HDR or some other way?

percoplus wrote:
As a matter of fact, I had the 5D Mark II bundle at first, and Then I installed the new Mark III bundle with version 3 of the EOS utility. None of it is working - in terms of creating a new preset.
It seems wrong that the window that opens with 'Register User Defined Style' has a drop down with all of the default presets already in the camera. That drop down should not be there, should it? There should only be the choice to import a new preset or maybe edit an existing preset. If you wanted one of the defaults, you would select it from the previous menu window.
For your purposes, I think I'd drop back to version 2 of the EOS Utility. Version 3 is very new and is aimed at compatibility with the rather idiosyncratic version 4 of DPP. EOS 3 has worked well for me so far, but if I were having trouble with it, I'd revert.
Bob
Boston, Massachusetts USA

Dual Pixel CMOS AF Upgrade for EOS C100 Cinema EOS Camera announced

The EOS C100 Feature Upgrade offers enhanced auto-focusing capability through Dual Pixel CMOS AF Technology. Learn more about the Feature Upgrade.

Are you focusing in the AF focus area box (pretty small area I've noticed)?
I have the 24-105mm EF lens but I am thinking aobut getting the new 10-18mm EF-S STM lens so I am curious about dual pixel AF support and performance.
I really increased the funcitonality of the new AF by setting button 7 (usually the magnify button) to AF Lock and the that make it much easier to use autofocus AND reframe the picture (so the subject does not always have to be right in the center). That tip came from Phillip Bloom, who has a video on Canon about it: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/standard_display/eos_c100_feature_upgrade

Feature Enhancement Firmware announced for the EOS C500, C500PL, C300, C300PL and C100 Cinema EOS Cameras

Future Firmware enhancements provide even more control making the Cinema EOS Camera system more versatile under many different shooting conditions.
Visit our Firmware Announcement Page to learn more about the upcoming Firmware Updates.

A video camera that looks as good as the EOS 5DIII & the new 70D

Hi everyone. I really want to make myself clear on my questions, so I'm going to preface them with a short wall of text. My apologies.
I work for local government and we film political meetings, PSA's, informational videos, documentaries, and local government events (groundbreakings, ribbon cuttings, roundtables, etc). We are still entirely standard definition. For the past 7-9 years we've only used Canon XL1's and XL2's, but in the last 2 years we've gone tapeless.
For our first foray into this, we first bought JVC GY-HM150U's (http://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/821133-REG/JVC_GY_HM150U_GY_HM150U_ProHD_Handheld_Memory.html). Our main desires here were: small, universal file type (we use several different editing systems), a "super full auto mode" for our non-advanced users, XLR inputs for microphones, relatively inexpensive, and SD or CF card slots. Obviously, we nailed all of these features with this camera, but the video quality is lower than we could've expected.
At the same time, we purchased a Canon EOS 5D Mark III for taking still pictures during events. Then, to our ultimate downfall, we started using it for interviews and documentary type shoots. I'm sure I don't need to tell you all the shock we were in for when it came to the amazing picture quality of this camera. To take these two cameras on a shoot together is pointless as the JVC's could not even come close to the quality of the Canon's. However, we cannot use the 5D as a primary camera during these shoots for several reasons (which I'll point out below). We began following the development of the new EOS 70D with interest when we found out it woud fix some of these features. Coincidentally, another department of ours purchased one and we were able to use it for a few shoots. It does seem to have as good a picture quality as the 5D, but it still lacks some features we need.
So, in preparing next years budget, I'm looking for actual video cameras with the amazing picture quality of the 5DIII and the 70D, but doens't have the limitations of a still photography camera. Any help would be appreciated.
Problems with the 5DIII as a primary video camera:
no follow focus, only records for 30 minutes segments, only 3.5mm audio input (need XLR)
Problems with 70D as a primary video camera:
no headphone output, can't adjust audio input levels while recording, still only records 30 minute segments, 3.5mm audio input
I'm an Audio / Video technician and video editor. I do a lot of filming, but do not know much of the science and technology behind the inner working of the cameras. As an example of our programs, below are two things I filmed with the EOS 5DIII.
Thank you all in advance for any help you can provide.
JP
http://cppjvideo.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=b2a30e6d03dcf1b655814c4c59d78f2a
http://cppjvideo.pegcentral.com/player.php?video=c2144ed57f8c34ce3cec7571b37b9ec1

I'm not a video guy. Canon lists their Cinema EOS video cameras on a separate section than they use for their EOS cameras.
The cinema cameras and their specs can be found here: http://www.usa.canon.com/cusa/professional/products/professional_cameras/cinema_eos_cameras
Based on specs, I'm thinking you would probably be well-served by the C100. It takes the same EOS EF lenses as your 5D III so you can get the look you want. It records in AVCHD with MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 -- which is fairly common.
The cards are formatted FAT32 although it says it can record continuously for up to 12 hours. I'm not sure how it pulls this off because no single file on a FAT32 filesystem which constrains individual files to a maximum of 2GB (that's a filesystem limit... not a camera or operating system limit). I'm "guessing" that it automatically creates a new file and just keeps streaming video as one file fills up.
You should probably rent one to make sure it meets your needs.
Tim Campbell
5D II, 5D III, 60Da

Exporting C100 footage from an edited timeline proving impossible help!!!!

The Canon C100 I now know shoots in a formate called PsF which is a type of interlaced that is but isn't interlaced? Yes I'm kind of confused. Anyway Premiere reads the footage I shot as 1080i and 29.97fps though I shot it at 1080p and 23.976. Yes I've talked to Canon Cinema EOS tech support team about this and they say they have no answers that it depends on the NLE I am using. I'm using Premiere CC on a Macbook Pro Retina, 15" fully loaded.
I decided to edit a timeline that Adobe chooses when adding the footage to it automatically. I export and I keep getting the error message. "Unknown error" HELP!!!

I tried it both ways, I was on the phone with an Adobe rep who took control of my computer. We were on the phone for two hours while we tried different things. Here's what we found out. The mercury playback engine doesn't like the C100 footage. You can take Red Epic 6k footage and edit without a hitch with a macbook pro retina 15" but not the C100. I turned the renderer to "software only" and it took 10 times as long but it exported. So for this particular project that's what I'll have to do. As for Clipwrapped footage, it doesn't matter, Mercury hates it. So it's time for Premiere to address the C100 directly. NOT AVCHD assuming that AVCHD is the same across the board because it isn't. This whole PsF flavor of it is a pain to work with in any NLE. Anyway I'll keep researching. Thanks

Does anyone know the weight of the C100?

The Canon specifications page just says TBA. I'm just curious how it compares in weight to my 7D for steady cam purposes.
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B&H says " 2.25 lb (1.02 kg)"
http://www.bhphotovideo.com/indepth/canon/news/canon-expands-their-eos-line-new-eos-c100-video-produ...
Canon's Europe site concurs and says:
Weight (camera only)
1020g
Weight (fully equipped)
Approx 1835g (grip, monitor unit, handle, hook, BP-955, 2x SD card)-5ºC to +45ºC, 60% relative humidity
http://cpn.canon-europe.com/content/product/cinema_eos/canon_eos_c100.do

New Factory Update available for the EOS-1D C Cinema EOS Camera

Incorporating feedback from professional users, Firmware Version 1.3.4 adds lens aberration correction data for Canon EF-mount Cinema lenses and Audio Recording updates. Please read our announcement to learn more about the Feature Upgrade.

I don't have any firsthand experiences with those cameras, but just wanted to say CONGRATS! What a win!
To help you pick, though, it might help us to know what kind of stuff you shoot and what types of features are your priorities in a camera? (e.g. run-and-gun vs tripod-ed and carefully blocked out; lens choices, audio on-board vs not; low-light/night)
Edit: Also, if you have a C100-specific question, the Cinema EOS forum is a bit of a ghost-town and could use some "livening up". =) http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/Cinema-EOS-Discussions/bd-p/cinemaeosboard

C100 Viewfinder Issue // HELP!

Hey there, hoping to hear from some C100 users. Recently I've noticed an issue with my viewfinder (which I don't use too often, but every once in a while). For seemingly no reason my viewfinder screen will wack out and look almost like it's posterized itself. It will lose contrast, color, part of the screen will disappear... it's quite frustrating. Then it will randomly return to normal.
I contacted a Cinema EOS Support rep who said he hasn't seen or heard of the problem. He advised me to send my camera (and pay for my own shipping and insurance!!) to a service facility with a note in the box describing the problem! He didn't give me a service number or repair number or anything. I'm not too excited about the idea of putting my brand new C100 in a box and sending it away with no formal instructions.
Anyways, before I look into repair, just wondering if anyone has experienced anything like this, or know what could cause the problem. I've included images taken with my iPhone illustrating the problem. Pics aren't amazing but you can definitely see.

Just wanted to say that Canon has helped me with this issue. I sent my C100 in for repair and their customer service was great. Repair only took 5 days. Back shooting in no time.

Converted C100 files not playing smoothly

My C100 files are jumpy and many times pixelate in Prelude. They play fine in Quicktime. Is there some way to change the default player in Prelude. When I choose this option In preferences, it only allows for Adobe Player. OR does anyone know of the best settings for converting C100 files?

Thanks for posting this question. Firstly I want to confirm with you, does 'C100' refer to Canon EOS C100? Does this issue happen when you connect your camero directly with computer? What is your computer OS (Macintosh or Windows)? Do you use Prelude CC version? Thanks.

Canon's Data Import Utility C100

Does anyone know where to download C100 Data Import Utility for C100? I just bought a used c100 that did not come with the disc and hoping to find out how to order a new one or if there is a download somewhere. Anybody out there think this is a must or can bypass with something like clipwrapper?

So I found a simple work around. I was having dificualty only downloading the VIDEO files, with no AUDIO becuase they are stored in 2 separt folders when recorded to the SD card from the c100. All you need to do is
sd > card reader > computer > [open folder via my computer]
EOS CANON C100 > PRIVATE > AVCHD > BDMV > STREAM (video files)
> CLIPINF (enables audio files to be interpreted in NLE's)
****STREAM (contains video file copy them to a new folder on your hard drive. Then the tricky part, also open the folder CLIPINF this folder holds files with the extension .CPI select all those and copy into the same folder you created for the video files. Then simply import the video files into a NLE's such as Premier Pro then your good to go!
Took me about an hour of frustration then I went back and just opened all the folders. Trial and error = Knowledge!
Enjoy hope this helps

C100 out HDMI 1080 / 25 p ?

Is the Canon C100 records HDMI 1080p -25P on HyperDeck Shuttle 2
thank you

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Video that is output from the EOS C100 via the HDMI port is as follows:
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C100 Internal Rattle Normal?

Hi there,
We just got the C100 and took it on a couple of shoots. I didn't really notice it at first since I was so excited to use the camera but there seems to be a rattle in the camera when it's moved around, especially handheld. It's almost as if there's a loose piece of plastic wiggling around inside. I thought that maybe it was the lens attached, so tested it without a lens and still the same noise.
Is this normal? If not, what might be the issue? Thanks a bunch!

Hello Onyxcinema,
We are sorry to hear that your EOS C100 seems to have a rattling noise when moved. The eyepiece on the EOS C100 has the plus and minus adjustment underneath, the dioptric adjustment lever. The eyepiece physically moves forwards or backwards, and we believe that because of this, you notice a rattling if shaken.
Try to hold the viewfinder/ dioptric adjustment lever, and move the camera around. Hopefully you do not hear the noise anymore. Therefore, your camera should be operating normally, provided that this is the noise you hear.
If this is a matter of urgency, please feel free to contact us through our EOS Cinema Support Site.
You would be able to contact us through Phone or Email Support. I hope you have a great day!
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C100 Firmware update

I recently purchased a C100. It shipped with firmware 1.0.1.1.00 which according to everything I read online should be the most recent update.
As far as I know it should give me ISO up to 80,000 and the ability to use the joystick in magnify mode (among other features). However I do not have those features available to me.
Just for fun I tired to update the firmware anyway but it obviously told me I was already up to date.
Any idea what the problem is? I would love to get this camera updated.
Thanks.

The C100 is a Cinema EOS camera. This particular board is mostly EOS DSLR camera users. I suspect few of us are familiar with your camera. There is actually a specific Cinema EOS discussion board category here.
You can find it by going to the top level of the site and view the list of discussion boards or use this link. http://forums.usa.canon.com/t5/Cinema-EOS/ct-p/cinemaeos
Tim Campbell
5D II, 5D III, 60Da

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