Epson R2400 some icc profiles vanished

Win XP
Today I noticed that the glossy icc paper profiles have vanished from Epson printing properites paper type in the Epson printer driver, but only if I try to access the properties from Lightroom or Photoshop CS3.
I uninstalled the printer driver and profiles and then reinstalled freah downloads. The profiles still show up if I access Epson R2400 properties from Start>Printers and Faxes, but not from Lightroom or Photoshop CS3. I need help really badly.
Thanks

Answering my own question:
the newest version of Epson's printer driver doesn't let you see glossy papers as a choice if you have the matte black ink cartridge installed. Also, because Lightroom sets the printing prefs with the driver the first time you print a photo, when you change the cartridge it takes Epson's driver a heck of a long time to note the change and show the right choices.
At least I think that is what is happening. Very weird.
Dorian

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Ok, here's the situation. I've been an Aperture user for over a year, and an R2400 owner for half a year. In that time I have done a huge amount of experimenting, but I've never managed to get Aperture to work perfectly with Epson's 'premium' R2400 ICC profiles - the ones you can download from their site which are better than the ones provided 'in the box'. This hasn't been too big a deal because, in fact, the R2400 does a rather good job just set to 'System Managed' in Aperture and 'Epson Vivid' with a gamma of 1.8 in the printer driver. Nevertheless, it really annoyed me that something that should work wasn't, which is why I've spent a lot of time trying to figure out what's going on. Having said that, I have come across a method which will give you pretty good prints out of your Epson R2400 using the premium profiles in Aperture - it's not perfect, but it's the best you're going to get if you want to use those profiles in Aperture. I understand the words 'it's not perfect' aren't what photography experts would probably want to hear, however, I have seen a few anguished posts from R2400 owners in here before, so I think some people may find it useful.
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If you have any questions, feel free to ask, although (contrary to any impression I may give) I am not a colour-management expert; I'm just someone who doesn't give up when they have a problem that should be solvable.
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Thomas
Wow - thanks for such a comprehensive post.
I have Aperture and a 2400 so this information is exceptionally useful to me.
Again - thanks for caring and sharing
Brian

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I suspect that some R1800 users have perhaps not tackled the issue of dark prints and may not be feel that they have an issue at all. I also believe that this particular issue only involves Intel Mac's which may not apply to some.
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Sorry if this is winded, but I've tried a lot myself and had to break down and post here.
I've read a lot of posts already about disabling color management in the printer or in LR 3.3. I've downloaded all possible profiles from Epson or other places that sound logical enough to help with my specific paper. I understand that my screen could be too bright or too dark and lightroom's interface itself could even give the impression of a photo being too bright or dark. I've read about iCC profiling twice, first in software then in the printer. I've used a Spyder3 Print SR and Spyder 3 screen calibrator.
No matter what combintation I try, my photos print too dark of course, but even worse, the color is really off (more than the brightness). Also, I understand there is a lot of printers so it can be hard giving exact toggles in options that might not even exist with ones printer.
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All the trying and failure make me feel like the guy who is barely qualified to make small rocks from a boulder, just give me a hammer. Should I just give up and let it rip with sliders and keep my eyes closed?
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Just checking off a few things. You may have done all this and some has been said before, I'm just trying for the complete list:
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Striebig wrote:
I'm thinking that lightroom and the printer are not communicating the icc profile info?
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Danny,
Just stop and think for a moment. Firstly, it's not Rocket science to produce an icc profile, and does not involve the profile having to physically 'fit' into a pre-formed item such as the razor blade analogy you used.
Secondly, If the likes of Epson and HP did produce printer profiles for all makes of paper, can you imagine how much more product they would sell. Printer companies are currently missing out on substantial amounts of income at the moment because the cost of their inks is more expensive than gold! Thus, the third party ink manufacturers - although not producing an ink as good as the original - are earning large sums of money and once again this is income loss to the major printer manufactures. Can you imagine what would happen if certain vehicles would only run on a specific fuel? I don't mean Diesel or Petroleum, but different manufacturers, Shell, Texaco, Murco etc.
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All my prints using: Lightroom 5, printer color management turned off, and non-generic ICC profile (e.g. Epson Premium Glossy) have magenta tint or cast

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Thank you kindly for your insightful response. As it turns out, the answer is half correct. I've found others who'll say the same thing, that double color management will lead to a very magenta result. I believe this was certainly the case when I first started playing with the settings, Where I went wrong, is that after I corrected my settings by turning off printer manages color and letting Lightroom do the color management, is that the Epson Print Preview was still showing magenta with certain profiles. Not wanting to waste more money on paper and ink, I used the preview to gauge whether I was going to get a normal print or not. Then one day I ignored the print preview's magenta cast as a 'warning' and I went ahead printed the photo anyways. Because I used a profile that I created with ColorMunki Photo, the picture came out perfect (i.e. a very good match to what I was seeing in Lightoom on my monitor). The lesson learned is that for judging the final color correctness, the Epson Print Preview can be way off target and your best bet is to ignore it.

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