Equal Depreciation in no. of years

Hi Experts
My client wants to change dep. calculation method from WDV to equal distribution of dep. in no. of years.
Till 31/3/08, assets were depreciated with WDV calculation, now after 1/4/08, client wants to change it to Pro Rate calculation, like dep. should be calculated eaqually in no. of years of life of assets.
for example :
assets purchased on 20/3/08, life of asset 3 years value of asset 75000
Fiscal year April to March
dep. calculation shoule be Rs. 25000 in first year ending 31st March-2008
Rs. 25000 in second year ending 31st March-2008
Rs. 25000 in thrid year ending 31st March-2008
Kindly advise how to customize, dep. key to have above results.
Rg
Vijay Puri
9871515683

Hi,
please browse through the forum, this question has been answered before several times. As an alternative browse the official SAP documentation at http://help.sap.com.
You can use keywords "depreciation net book value over remaining life" as hints. I think applying this depr. method resolves your issue.
Regards,
Markus

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