ETO - MTO scenario

We have an ETO scenario where we have a Sales Order assigned to a WBS element. Project creates MRP for material procurement and assembly. So all the purchased components are account-assigned to the Project and the project creates Producttion Order for in-house production of FG.
At the month end should the variances on the production order be settled to the Material and COPA or should it go to the WBS (or should it be network)? The reason I am asking this is because when we run the s_alr_87013533 report for projects we do not see any production order related actual costs in the actual costs column of the report.
Please advise.
thanks
raj

Raj,
Yes. Process for ETO is similar to MTO. MTO has sales order as settlement received ,if production order is tied to Sales order.
In ETO , it is just replaced by NWA.....
In both scenario , if you decide to delink production order , then Settlement received should be material.
Hope it helps,
Jatin

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ETO & MTO

Hello,
What is the difference between Engineer To Order (ETO) & Make To Order (MTO) Process.
Regards,
Naveed Ansari.

Dear Naveed
We can call ETO as pre sales activity which involves exclusively for new product development, for which there will be a separate department to look after these sort of activities.
- study feasibility report
- Inform customer whether the development is feasible or not
- If feasible, give a quote with development cost
- If customer approved the quote, ask for tool cost
- Once tool cost is received, develop a die for tooling
- Indicate a tentative despatch plan of pilot samples
- Prepare drawing according to customer spec
- Submit samples for customer approval
- If approved, transfer the drawings to delivering plant
- If not approved, study customer comments and redespatch samples for approval
Whereas, in MTO scenario, you will be initiating productiion for your regular items.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

Steps for execution of valuated and unvaluated for MTO scenario

Hi,
Can any one provide the steps for execution of valuated and unvaluated for MTO scenario.
regards,
RAM

Hi,
Please find below the details about Valuated and non-valuated Sale Order scenarios:
SAP Scenario 1 - Valuated Sale Order Stock u2013 with Sale Order Controlling u2013 (MTO, ATO and ETO with VC)
1     Enquiry
2     Opportunity
3     Quotation (Creation and Approval). In case of ETO u2013 BPO is created and updated in quotation (condition type)
4     Creation of Sale Order
5     MRP Run u2013 Creation of Planned Order u2013 Creation of Production Order and Purchase Order
6     External Procurement u2013 Goods Receipt     ROH Inventory A/c Dr (BS)
     To GR/IR A/c Cr (P&L)
7     Material Consumption to Production Order     In FI:
ROH con. A/c Dr (P&L)
    To ROH Inventory A/c Cr (BS)
Same is the case with HALB
In CO:
Cost of Material is debited to Production Order
8     Activity Consumption to Production Order     No FI Posting
In CO:
Production Order is debited and cost center is credited with activity cost
9     Goods Receipt from Production Order     FG Inventory A/c Dr (BS)
   To COGM A/c Cr (P&L)
10     Delivery to customer     In-Transit A/c   Dr. (BS)
   To FG Inventory A/c Cr (BS)
11     Invoicing to customer     In FI:
Customer A/c Dr (BS)
   To Revenue A/c Cr (P&L)
COGS A/c   Dr (P&L)
    To In-Transit A/c Cr (BS)
In CO:
COGS and Revenue are posted to COPA
     Period end closing u2013 Production Order
12     Revaluation of activity prices     Production Order and Cost Center will be debited or credited as the case may be
13     Calculation of WIP     In FI:
WIP A/c Dr. (BS)
To Change in WIP A/c Cr (P&L)
If the Order is completed:
In FI:
Change in WIP A/c   Dr(P&L)
   To WIP A/c Cr (BS)
14     Calculation of Variances     Variances are Calculated on the Production Order. No FI or CO entries
15     Settlement to Sale Order     Production Order and Sales Order will get debited/credited depending on whether they are positive or negative variances
Period end closing u2013 Sale Order
16     Result analysis at Sale Order     Result Analysis run will identify the status of the sale order and will enable the postings to COPA at the time of settlement
17     Settlement of Sale Order
In FI:
Variances A/c Dr (P&L)
To COGS Account Cr (P&L)
(It would be otherwise if variances are positive)
In CO:
COGS, Revenue and Variances are settled to COPA
SAP Scenario 2 u2013 Non-valuated Sale Order Stock u2013 with Sale Order Controlling
Process Step     Business Process Flow     Value Flow u2013 FI/CO
1     Enquiry
2     Opportunity
3     Quotation (Creation and Approval)
4     Creation of Sale Order
5     MRP Run u2013 Creation of Planned Order u2013 Creation of Production Order and Purchase Order
6     External Procurement u2013 Goods Receipt     In FI:
Consumption A/c   Dr (P&L)
   To GR/IR A/c Cr (P&L)
In CO:
Material costs will directly get posted to Sale Order
7     Material Consumption to Production Order     Not applicable
8     Activity Consumption to Production Order     In FI:
No Entry
In CO:
Activity Costs are posted to Production Order
9     Goods Receipt from Production Order     Only Material Document for movement of goods will be there. The stock is neither valuated in CO nor in FI
10     Delivery to customer     Just goods movement from sale order stock to customer. No value postings in FI and CO
11     Invoicing to customer     In FI:
Customer A/c Dr (BS)
   To Revenue Cr (P&L)
In CO:
COGS and Revenue get posted to Sale Order
     Period end closing u2013 Production Order
12     Revaluation of activity prices     Prodn Order and Cost Center will be debited or credited as the case may be
13     Calculation of WIP     No WIP
14     Calculation of Variances     No Variances
15     Settlement of costs to Sale Order     All the costs accumulated in Production Order gets collected to Sale Order
16     Settlement of Variances     No Variances in Production Order
     Period end closing u2013 Sale Order
17     Result analysis at Sale Order     In FI
WIP A/c Dr. (BS)
To Change in WIP A/c Cr (P&L)
If the Order is completed:
Change in WIP A/c   Dr (P&L)
   To WIP A/c Cr (BS)
No CO postings will happen
18     Settlement of Sale Order     COGS, Revenue and other direct sale order related values will get posed to PA.
Best Regards
Surya

How can we assign a different scope of planning in MTO scenario?

Hi,
We are using MTO scenario. In this case, during sales order creation checking control AE is getting triggered. We want to use a different scenario during rescheduling transaction. But as per my analysis, V_V2 is also calling the same AE checking control eventhough we assigned a different checking control for Back order processing.
In this case, can we assign a different checking control (scope of check) for back order processing?
Regards.

Let me explain my requirement here....
This is a kind of trading or sub-contracting. Initially we will give the forecast to vendor...but Vendor will start the finished product production only after getting the confirmed order from us. Hence we thought to use strategy 50. So we will create a PO to Vendor only after getting a confirmed sales order from customer.
But in strategy 50 ATP confirmation is based on PIR. Hence we created a new requirement class (copy of 45 with ATP active). So in this new strategy ATP is against actual receipts instead of PIRs.
But sometimes Vendor may not be able to supply as per lead-time...and he may postpone the delivery date. In this case we are getting exception message 10 for the PO...even though PO is specific to a sales order. Still rescheduling job (V_V2) is not populating the new confirmation date as it is referring to the TRLT.
Hence we want to use ATP based on TRLT during sales order creation. And during rescheduling we want to use a different scope of check ('without TRLT' and with 'No storage location check'). Hence we created a new checking rule for rescheduling and this we assigned for that specific plant.
As per my observation, rescheduling job is not picking the scope of check that is assigned for rescheduling....it is calling the same checking rule AE during rescheduling also.
So my question here is... can we call a different scope of check during rescheduling run while using make to order strategy?
Regards.

Re: Error while making a Process order in MTO scenario

Hi All,
I am having a secnario, where I am using MTO scenario. I want that the sales order should trigger the process order.The components in the BOM for the FG material .
1. Raw material: procured from outside: Stock & value relevent.
2. This one is non valuated one :procured from outside: Stock & Non-value relevent.
Now when I create a sales order, I can see a plan order in the MD04 scree for this FG . But on drilling down this plan order I can only create the PR for the 1st component only ,for the second component I cant create anything.
The second item should be non valuated & stock relevent.
Please help me in this regards,
Vivek

I have taken help from some other threads to resolve this issue.

Error While doing settlement for Sale Order in MTO scenario

Hi,
In MTO Scenario - when i try to settle Sales Order i am getting the below error. Even i have maintained the settlement cost element for PSG in allocation structure A1.
Kindly help me
Define a settlement cost element for receiver type PSG
Message no. KD506
Diagnosis
In allocation structure A1 (controlling area BP01), you did not define which cost element should be used when settling costs/revenues of the sender. Nor did you define receiver type PSG.
Procedure
Assign a different allocation structure to the settlement sender (-> Master data -> Settlement rule -> Goto -> Settlement parameters), or maintain allocation structure A1.
Thanks
Kishore

Hi
Please check your allocation structure , it looks that settlement cost element that you have assigned in the allocation strcuture is not having correct cost element category.
Go to Allocation structure configuration (OKO6) and check your allocation structure A1.
check settlement cost elements is it by cost element or you have assigned separate cost element for settlement.
if you wants to settle with same cost element select By cost element.
if you wants to settle with different cost element create a cost element and assign settlement cost element.
http://help.sap.com/saphelp_di46c2/helpdata/EN/9d/1f4b6e5733d1118b3f0060b03ca329/frameset.htm
hope this helps you.
Regards

GR in case of MTO scenario

Hello All
        In case of MTO (Planning strategy 20) when we run the MRP we have planned order agianst sales order & we convert planned order to Production order, I want to know that in case of MTO if we look at the GR tab page of the production order the GR Non-Valuated checkbox is ticked, & if we see the help of the same field it says:
Goods Receipt, Non-Valuated
Specifies that the goods receipt for this item is not to be valuated.
Dependencies
This indicator is only relevant to production orders, projects and and configurable materials with account assignment to a sales order.
      I want to know why this checkbox is checked in case of MTO.
      I want that this shall not be checkmarked in case of MTO scenario I want that if GR is done against a production order which is of MTO scenario, then GR shall be of valuated. Kindly suggest what all settings have to be done for the same.
Regards,
J K Tharwani

Thanks R Brahmankar for your valuable inputs,
         I did some changes in customizing under CO node of which the path is as under:
         SPRO>Controlling>Product cost controlling>Product cost by Sales Order>Control of Sales Order related Production-->Check requirement class.
        I made the changes in the following fields:
   Field                      Default Value               Changes
   Valuation               Blank                           M (Separate valuation with ref. to sales document/project)
   Settlement Profile   SD1                            PP01
Result analysis key 000004                       Blank
      After doing the above changes I created a sales order & did the MRP run I converted the planned order to production order & then I got under GR tab page of production order the check box for "GR Non-valuated" as unckecked. I want to cross check if the changes I have made are OK as per the requirement. Waiting for your valuable inputs.
Regards,
J K Tharwani

No Accounting Document generated for goods issue in case of MTO scenario

Hi all,
I have MTO scenario & the industry is trading. So I have all trading goods. In SPRO - Sales & Distribution - Availability Check and Transfer of Requirements - Transfer of Requirements - Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction I have determined requirement type as KE.
In material master I have used strategy group as 20 for Make to order scenario. In the settings "Determination Of Requirement Types Using Transaction" I have determined the requirement type as "KE".
The requirement type "KE" determines a requirement class "040 - MkToOrdNoValW/o cons". Here the account assignment category is "E-Ind. cust. w. KD-CO".
Now I created a sales order, the system determined the requirement type as "KE". I saved the sales order, assigned the stock to the sales order & created a delivery.
I did the PGI also. But when I check in the document flow, for the material document the system has not generated any FI document where we see the accounting document for the "cost of goods sold" & "inventory" G/L accounts. The system gives a message "Material document 4900000023 does not include an accounting document".
Note:
1. When I create the sales order with normal MTS scenario, the system creates an accounting document for the material document at the time of goods issue.
2. The valuation class in the material is 3100 for trading goods.
3. The following settings have been made in OBYC.
for GBB, the G/L accounts have been assigned for general modifier "BSA", "VAX", "VAY" & "VKA".
Please suggest me as to where i am missing any settings.
With best regards,
Niyaz Sayyed.

Dear Niyaz Sayyed
You need to check in the following areas:-
- check whether the material is defined as non-valuated stock
- go to OME9, select your Account Assignment and see whether you have checked the box "GR non-valuated". It should not have been checked
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi

How to Copy Cost Estimate from Quotation to Sales Order in MTO Scenario

Hi,
We are working on a MTO scenario- Sales order Costing with Valuated Stock.
And our case we are creating the Cost Estimate at the time of Quotation using PP qty structure. Now we wan to transfer the cost estimate to Sales Order as we don't want to recost the sales order.
Currenty it's transferring only the EK01 condition as total planned costs in Sales order but we want to see the itemization also.
Please suggest is there any way to transfer this cost estimate with itemization from Quotation to Sales Order.
Regards
venkat

Hi
As far as I know the CO esimate does not get copied from Quotation to Sales Order
You need to recost the SO again.. If your Qty Structure has not changed between Quotation to SO and your valuation variant is also the same - it would give the same result
br, Ajay M

Change in Sales Order Qty in a MTO scenario

Hi,
We had confirmed 5 Qty for the Production Order created with reference to Sales ORder(MTO scenario), now after confirmation of 5 qty, sales order qty is reduced to 3., then in this situation, what we need to do for the already confirmed extra Quantity 2 for this sales order. I think we need to cancel the confirmation for the extra qty 2?. Please clarify and explain what we need to do this for this extra Qty 2 in detail.
Case 2) If the Sales Order qty is changed to 7, then we will be creating a new Production Order for this new quantity 2 with reference to the same sales order. Am i correct?.IF wrong, please suggest how should we balance the extra requirement of 2 EA.
Thanks in advance.

Is your query being posted even before you actually tried the 2 cases which you refer to in your system?
If so, then first do the simulation in your sandbox, check how system behaves when you do that. Also check by clicking on ATP check for the material within SO.
Once you do the above your query will be self answered, if you still face any issue then revert with the specific details.

Block production order creation in MTO scenario when sales order is blocked

Hello Experts,
We are using the MTO scenario and creating production orders with refernce to sales order using CO08.
The requirement is to not allow the creation of production order when the sales order has a block. It can be an overall block or a credit block.
Right now the systme allows me to create the production order with refernce to the sales order even when the sales order is blocked.
Is there any way by which this check can be activated.
Thanks
Ritesh

Hi!,
Please try follow:
Go to path IMG > Plant Maintenance and Customer Service > Master Data in Plant Maintenance and Customer Service > Technical Objects > Serial Number Management > Define Serial Number Profiles. There enter "2" in Stkck column for your serial profile.
Regards,
Uday

In MTO   scenario i want to have some materials with out account assignment

Hi,
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materials it works with manual reorder point planning.but i cannot estimate my correct reorder point for that material.because it is not constant requirement .It varies basing on customer sales order for that period.
   My question is how to plan these components in MTO scenario with out having idea of correct manual reorder point for those materials.
thanks in advance
regards
madan

Madan,
Automatic Reorder Point Planning
In automatic reorder point planning, both the reorder level and the safety stock level are determined by the integrated forecasting program.
The system uses past consumption data (historical data) to forecast future requirements. The system then uses these forecast values to calculate the reorder level and the safety stock level, taking the service level, which is specified by the MRP controller, and the material's replenishment lead time into account, and transfers them to the material master.
Since the forecast is carried out at regular intervals, the reorder level and the safety stock level are continually adapted to the current consumption and delivery situation. This means that a contribution is made towards keeping stock levels low.
So you need to maintain the forecast view for the material. The forecast values comes from consumption data. If the system in place for some time then consuption data will be automatically by the system based on the material issues. I am not sure if you can enter the consumption manually.
Regards
Ram

For MTO scenario,multi level bom is not working sap afs pp

Hi Experts,
              We are implementing MTO scenario for our client. I have maintained strategy group for FERT is 40 and strategy group for HALB and ROH are 20.
               For single level BOM , requirements is not getting generates properly.
              I would like to know What are all the settings is required to create AFS BOM.(single and multi level)
               Please suggest me.
Thanks & Regards,
Deepika.

Hello Deepika,
As we know AFS materials are planned at SKU level (Grid and stock categories) you can use AFS MRP (/N/AFS/MD02) only.
Please refer OSS note Note 981747 - FAQ - AFS Production Planning
Question 5 Made-To-Order Planning -Multi-Level (MD50) does not work for AFS Materials and Sales Orders containing AFS materials.
Answer: Made to Order Multi level planning functionality was never enhanced for AFS and hence transaction MD50 is not supported.
Steps are as,
1. Create a MTO/PTO sales order for an AFS material.
2. Run AFS MRP using transaction code /AFS/MD02.
3. Convert the planned order to production order.
Best Regards,
R.Brahmankar

Moving Average Price and Total Stock not updated for MTO scenario

We are using MTO with planning strategy 20, individual collective indicator is 1 (individual requirement only) and price control is V for finished goods. We are facing the following problems after we perform GR of above FG from MFBF (Repetitive -run schedule header):
1)Total Stock field (LBKUM)in Accounting View 1 remain as blank but the sales order stock is appear in Stock Overview screen.
2)Moving average price does not updated after periodic settlement is carried out.
It seem that problem can only be resolved if we change the planing strategy to MTS (ex:40), appreciate that if any of you can provide the solution.
p/s: on ECC5 system.

Hi,
Good morning and greetings,
The standard SAP says as below
The Raw Materials should have MAP 'V' and the SFG and FG should have the price control as 'S' basically because the standard costing variant PPC1 uses the sequence of Standard Price as the first update at the time of price update and settlement.
I presume MFBF is used for Repetitive Manufacturing and not for MTO scenario...Repetitive Manfuacturing is MTS scenario...Goods receipt of production order is normally done through MB31.
If you still want to use the MAP for FG and SFG then you will have to change the costing variant appropriately to pick the MAP first at the time of goods receipt and settlement.
Please reward points if found useful.
Thanking you
With kindest regards
Ramesh Padmanabhan

Transfer of Sales Order stock - MTO scenario

Hi,
We have a situation in a MTO scenario, in MMBE we see a Sales Order stock for a material.
THe Sales order is archived from the system and he corresponding PP order is also in TECO status.
We need ot use that Sales order stock and transferit unrestricted.
We cannot use any of the movement types as we get the error message Sales order is archived and does not exist.
Is there any way we can use the Sales order stock. Please suggest something orther than reversing the PP cycle.
Rg,
Vipul

Hi Vipul,
Please check OSS note 202345.
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