Excise entry during customer returns
Hi,
How to take excise credit while performing customer returns in SD.Is it through J1IEX or J1IH?If we take a excise credit through J1IEX then whether we need to maintain the customer's as vendors also??
Kindly Guide..
Warm Regards
Somnath
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For customer return we are useing J1IEX Transaction for capturing excise invoice, without purchase order document type.
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PrabudhDear Lalit,
Instead of J1IEX, you can use Excise JV route through Transaction Code: J1IH. In Transaction Code: J1IH, you have the option of both adding to excise duty value & also if you want to reduce you can do so, by selecting appropriate option like additional / others, etc. You have the option of both linking it to material or also without linking it to material.
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Excise Entries in case of sales return
Dear sap mites
Can any one guide me during sales return how excise gets reversed as we would have already paid to the govt during sales how do we take input credit back
please do explain with GL account entries and an example if possible will be very grateful to you
Its of high priority as i have a presentation in front of my clientIdeal way of Excise Entries incase of return may not be cancelling Excise Invoice through J1IIN, as it may be possible that through Excise Invoice, say 10 Quantity was despatched & Return is only 2 quantity.
The Option widely used is as under:
Incase of Return Sales Order:
T.Code for copy control: VTAF
Source Document: F2
Target Document: RE
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create return sales order RE (with Reference to Billing Document) & the data will be copied as it is in Return Sales Order - RE. For Eg: here you require to change to quantity from 10 to 2, as you want to take back into Inventory of only 2.
Incase of Return Delivery:
T.Code for copy control: VTLA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: LR
Item category REN
Considering the above settings are done:
Create Return Delivery through T.Code VL01N & do PGR (Post Goods Receipt). This will add the stock to blocked stock. This will take care of Inventory.
To address the issue of how to take Credit for Excise, use T.Code: J1IH --> other Adjustment & based on the credit to be taken, make the necessary entry.
Incase of Credit Memo:
T.Code for copy control: VTFA
Source Document: RE
Target Document: Credit Memo
Item category G2N (Check in System)
First in VA02, remove the Billing Block in Return Sales Order - RE & save the document. Now in T.Code: VF01, enter Return Sales Order Number & select the appropriate Billing Type (Credit Memo) & Enter& Save. This will create Credit Memo.
Hope this helps you.
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Rajesh Banka
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EXCISE in Customer Returned Material
Had searched, but couldnt find this kind of query
Hai All,
Actual sales - OR - DEL- pgi- Invoice - Outgoing Exc.Invoice-
now, when customer returning goods,
RE order ( with / without ref) - LR - pgr - RE - Cr for Returns ( i havent created any exc invoice for RE billing)
How to reverse the excise entries, in both cases ( with OR without ref to OR/F2)
I did - J1I7 to know find the Outgoing Exc.Invocie of original/ref Billing doc-
( how can we find, if there is no ref when creating RE-order?)
Then, I tried to Capture Exc.Invoice- J1IEX ( wrt: Without Purchase ORder -EWPO)-
I entered the Original Outgoing Excise invoice - system throws mssg as " Material Document can not be processed"-
am I following wrong path? - or you want me to Make Adjustments directly in J1IH ( all debit entries - Other adj / Credit entries- Addnl Adjust) .
Please Clarify-DOne
flow:
VA01-VL01N-VF01-J1IH -
Excise Entries at the time of Return
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We are implementing CIN. Can any one guide me what would be a journal entry for Excise at the time of Vendor Return and Customer Return?
When we do Customer Return I believe its a manual JV which we need to pass for Excise (correct me if I am wrong)
We do it from - (J1IH T-Code) What Accounting entry should pass?
Similarly vendor return for Excise What is the process. through which T-code we reverse the Excise
Please let me know.
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Best Regards
ShashiHello,
For customer return you can use J1IIN (Cancel Excise Invoice)
For Vendor return you have to use J1IH
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J2IUN: AED payable D(Customer Returns) GL not determined during utilization
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I am doing Utilization J2IUN & getting a error "Balance in currency" due to following reason.
There is a AED payable due to customer returns,now the Dr entry for it is not getting determined. I am paying AED from BED a/c.
My entries are as follows
Duties payable
BED=1431905
AED=53858
ECS=28638
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Dr 14320 Excise duty payable SHECess
Dr 1431905 Excise duty payable BED
Dr 28638 Excise duty payable Ecess
Cr 1485763 RG23A Basic excise duty
Cr 28638 RG23A ECess
Cr 14320 RG23A SHECess
While simulating there is a AED payable 53858 Dr entry which is missing?
Any idea on missing configurationHi,
Go to - Spro - Logistics - General - India - Account Determination - Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
In excise Transaction Type UTLZ Assign your GL account and give indicator Debit and Account name of AED.
This will solve you issue
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Shayam -
For Customer return, other adjustemnet or Add. excise required ?
Hi All,
While my customer return the finished goods I am making sales return order ,did the PGR & make the credit note.
Now I want to adjust the excise duty through J1IH
In j1ih which option I have to choose <other adjustemnet> or <Add. excise>
In Add. Excise tab. the Gl account detremine are :
C 0013113920 115.00 CENVAT clearing
D 0024822000 5.00 CENVAT Input SECess
D 0024820000 100.00 CENVAT Input BED
D 0024821000 10.00 CENVAT Input ECess
Whereas In case of Other adjustment tab GL account determine are
C 0024822000 5.00 CENVAT Input SECess
C 0024820000 100.00 CENVAT Input BED
C 0024821000 10.00 CENVAT Input ECess
D 0013113920 115.00 CENVAT clearing
Please suggest me which option is correct.......Other adj or Add excise tab.
In my opinion it should be <Add. Excise> where Clearing account is credited and all rest debited.
Please Give me the solution
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SAGARDear Lakshmipathi,
As directed by you I did & come to know that it's triggering MRDY EX TT if I go through J1Ih < Other Adjustment>.
So now I Created one Sub Transaction Type -
CR - Customer Return.
& in Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction I Maintain
MRDY CR Credit Cenvat Suspence Account
MRDY CR Debit RG 23 BED Account
MRDY CR Debit RG 23 ECS Account
MRDY CR Debit RG 23 At1 Account
& maintained thier GL's.
Checked in
Is this right for Customer Returns????
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SAGAR -
Accounting entries for excise invoice for purchase returns in J1IS
Dear Friends
1) I recorded an excise invoice for goods receips in J1IEX . The accounting entry is
Input BED a/c DR
Input ECS a/c DR
Input H.css A/c DR
CENVAT clearing CR
2) There were some damaged items and same returned to vendor. I did RETURN Delivery in MIGO. The excise invoice in J1IS gives error " BALANCE IN TRANSACTION CURRENCY". Here I used Ref document type - MATD
QUESTION :
What is the Excise transaction type for ' other outward movement' in J1IS to which I should assign the excise accounts to reverse (1) above. Is it OTHR or GPRO.
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kamalaDear Mathews,
It is not capital goods. Also if I do a JV in J1IH, the entry goes and is as below :
Cenvat clrg DR, Input -BED /E.cess/ S.cess CR
But J1IS does not save, though I have assigned all said accounts in 'Excise accts per excise transation' for OTHR. Also I read in wiki that the entry for purchase return excise inv in J1IS is ' CENV CLRG ....DR , CENV RECEIVABLE ...CR ' .If so, then do i creat new GL for Cenv Receivable ? What is its effect on FORTNIGHTLY UTILIZATION
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kamala
Edited by: Kamala Surianarayanan on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 AM
Edited by: Kamala Surianarayanan on Mar 6, 2009 6:38 AM -
Customer Returns with Excise Duties.
Hi all,
Can any one explain the steps for Customer Returns with Excise Duties.
I have sold the Material to customer from Manufacturing Plat to customer.
Sales Orderm - VA01
Outbound delivery- VL01N
Pro forma - JEX
Excise Invoice - J1IIN
Invoice - VF01
Now customer wants to return the goods with the same Excise Invoice issued from Plant.
Return Order - VA01
Inbound Delivery - VL01N
Now what are the steps to capture the Excise Details..........?
We are using one more transaction (=/BEV1/SR0) here to keep the goods in to Unrestricted or Blocked stock and it will create Credit memo request automatically.
so please guide me is this step need to be done before Excise details are captured ?
It is very urgent to me. please send me the steps for the above mentioned scenario.
Thanking you.
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Jayahi
create return order in VA01 with order type RE with reference to billing (assign order reason)
create delivery in VL01N and do PGR
go to VA02 and remove billing block
create billing document in VF01 with reference to return order.
DO EXCISE JV MAIN MENU IN T.CODE J1IH
SELECT ADDITIONAL EXCISE TAB
ENTER DELIVERY DOCUMENT NUMBER
SELECT DETAILS ICON IN THE EXTREEM LEFT OF THE APPLICATION TOOL BAR
ENTER MATERIAL NUMBER, QUANTITY AND EXCISE DUTY
SELECT DETERMINE G/L ACCOUNTS AND PRESS CONTINUE AND SAVE IT
EXTRACT RG23APART2 IN J2I5
IN PRINT RG23APART2 U CAN C THE OUTPUT
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Customer Returns for Excisable Finished materials RG1 registers update
Dear Experts,
Ours is an Excisable Plant.
The Normal Sales to Invoice process runs fine.
When it comes to Customer Returns, kindly help me in understanding the process in receiving the Excise material.
Right now, i'm doing the following,
1. Create Return Sales Order w.r.t Orginal Sales Order (VA01)
2. Create Return Del w.r.t Return SOrd. (651 Mvt Type, returns stock)
3. Create Invoice w.r.t Delivery (VF01)
In the Excise Invoice area, i would like to know the following
1) Which transaction should i execute and what are the sequence of steps in that transaction.
Though i tried different transactions like J1IEX & J1IH, both the transactions are updating RG23A registers. Is it correct.
2) Our Business Process Owners say that when we receive the Finished Materials back again from the customer as a return,it should update the RG1 register. Is that a valid statement. If not , is there any official document/ link we can refer to ?
Kindly reply.
fyi. the returns qty is a partial quantity due to some defect.
Ex:if the main sale qty is 100 , the return qty may be just 10. (just to confirm that we cannot go through the cancellation of main process)
Thanks in advance.a) On point no.1, you should always create a return sale order with reference to billing document only and not original sale order which is totally wrong
b) Right
c) Right. You may also generate credit memo with reference to return order
For updation of excise related sales returns, run T.Code J1IH and do the following:-
Customer Credit
Choose the Additional excise input the original excise invoice reference, document year, company code, plant and excise group and execute. There input manually what value you need to give credit and save.
Cenvat Debit
Choose Other Adjustment and here also, maintain the datas whatever you input as above and save.
RG1 register will get updated only for outgoing materials and only RG23A and RG23C will get updated for incoming materials.
thanks
G. Lakshmipathi -
Hi All,
Can any body let me know the Excise accounting Entry of Vendor Return (Movt. 122/161)?
In my case it is displaying;
Credit ---> BED, ECS & HEC
Debit ---> PLA on hold
and Which ETT system will use?
With Reagrds
Manoj SinghHi,
Check in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction > Here check following is maintained;
ETT Subtrn Typ DC ind Acct name
OTHR CR RG23AED
OTHR CR RG23AT1
OTHR CR RG23BED
OTHR CR RG23ECS
OTHR DR MSUSP
And then do Account Determination for Excise Group and ETT OTHR in SPRO > Logistics - General > Tax on Goods Movements > India > Account Determination > Specify G/L Accounts per Excise Transaction
Here assign GL A/c CENVAT Input BED under column RG23BED, CENVAT Input ECS under column RG23ECS, CENVAT Input SECess under column RG23AT1 and CENVAT Clearing under column CENVAT Suspense. -
RLFC Excise transaction type during consignment return
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During consignment return for adjusting JV can we use RLFC transaction type instead of OTHR.
So far we used only OTHR. What are all the impacts if we move to RLFC all of a sudden.
Please explain.
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Raja DuraiDear Friend,
As per the SAP new package ETT RLFC has been introduced for Excise sales return. New tab "Return sales Excise" available in J1IH for post Return excise invoice automatically. .
We added ETT RLFC in table J_1ITRAN and did configuration for account determination for excise, this is helped us to post excise invoice for Sales return.
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How to Post Customer Return in Materials Management ?
Dear Experts,
I want to know the cycle of excisable customer return material.
How the Goods receipt will be posted with excise duties and further processing in materials management.
Also please mention the integration points with Sales and destribution.
Thanks in Advance.Hi,
The returns order can be created with reference to an invoice to ensure traceability of the process. It may be worthwhile ensuring this is mandatory when creating the returns order type. It may also be worthwhile ensuring the returns order reason was entered on the sales document. Thus, it may be necessary to add this in an incompletion procedure. You may want to copy the pricing from the invoice back into the sales order.
Note: - There is no need to indicate a negative value in the copying control rules, as the system sees the document type as a return. It automatically posts the entries in the finance document as opposite entries on the ledger. By using the same pricing values, you ensure a reversal of the externally created invoice.
It is advisable to have a billing block assigned to the return order to prevent a credit for returns being created until an authorized person releases the billing block. Go to Sales, Sales documents, Sales document header, Define sales document type in the billing block field in the billing section.
Once the returns delivery is created, the material is receipted back into our plant. The material should use a goods movement back into stock that inspects the stock, such as blocked stock, before placing it back into available stock to be consumed by the next sales order that places a demand for the material in the plant.
Tip: - It is advisable to indicate a shipping condition that is specifically used for returns. Thus, all return deliveries or goods receipts can be done by a specific shipping point. This is useful when running the delivery due list. You can select only to process the returns deliveries, as well as offer better visibility of stock movements.
The standard item category used by returns is REN.
Process Flow: -
1. VA01 - Create Return Order (Order Type - RE) w.r.t. original Billing Document
2. VL01N - Create Delivery w.r.t. Return Order (Here do Picking and Post Goods Receipt i.e. PGR)
3. VF01 - Create Credit Memo w.r.t. Delivery Document
4. J1IEX - Capture Excise Invoice --> Without Purchase order and enter all details like; Material, Vendor, Quantity, Assessable Value, Excise Duties like; BED, ECS and SECess, etc... manually and Post.
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