Excise Entries during Depot Purchase

Hi All,
I want to know that how to configure Excise FI posting While recieving excisable Goods at depot?
My scenario is explained below...
My Client is having a unit which is treated as depot. The Client is having trade license so the get duty credit for excisable procurement from this unit.I have configured all CIN part for it.
When I'm processing J1iG my RG 23D Register is getting updated. But no FI posting is taking Place for Excise Values.
I have come to know from the forum that no excise FI entries can be created while Posting RG23D Register.
But my client wants to get Excise FI entries. How to handle this scenario.
Thanks & Regards
Nitesh

Hi
As you have said in case of purchase at depot no excise fi entries take place,
But when I am selling materials from depot Excise Liability is getting posted in FI
As per me there is no excise invoice in MM side ,now question is about excise entries in MIRO
its goes to suspension G/L account which will knockoff With SD at time of delivery
Regards
kailas ugale

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Hi Vinz,
I would like to explore more for ur info.
When u create Excise invoice at Factory Using J1iin, accounting entries flow to the system. When u transfer it to Depot, u credit the Excise amount using MIRO and post it to RG23D ( Depot Register)
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How do i get the accounting entries for RG23D transactions?
I searched the threads in SDN but it all says there will not be any accounting entries.
the requirement is like this....the excise duty pertaining to stock lying at the Depot needs to be shown as a Balance sheet item. But i am not getting any accounting entries for Depot.
If it is not possible, what is the work around??
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hi
Go for this step first Specify Excise Accounts per Excise Transaction
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Than Specify GL Accounts per Excise Transaction
Logistic general --> Tax on goods movement --> India >Account Determination> Specify GL Accounts per Excise Transaction
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I have a scenario with one of my customers where they transfer stock from plant to depot and sell those from there. In one instance, it was discovered that by mistake proforma invoice at the plant was prepared with wrong base price and therefore less excise values flowed into the outgoing excise invoice. To take care of this an excise JV was passed from the plant. Thereafter, an A-certificate was created w.r.t the outgoing plant invoice to capture the excess excise values. Simultaneously, a debit memo request was created for the plant followed by a debit memo to balance amount. The RG1, RG23A partII registers were then updated. Now, while selling from the depot, when excise invoice is being assigned to the delivery, I am not able to find the plant excise invoice which is needed to be assigned. Only, the A-certificate is seen. I have tried to change selection criteria also but still unable to find the particular incoming invoice in the list. Therefore, I am not able to create the depot excise invoice.
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2. How to update RG1 register for the differential value or the RG23A only shall be updated instead of RG1 after the Jv is passed?
3. I am not able to assign the incoming excise invoice and the A-certificate together to the outbound delivery at depot.
I shall be obliged if any of you suggest me a solution from your experience as many of you might have come accross similar scenarios while working on CIN.
Awaiting a reply and wishing everybody a very Happy New Year in advance.
Regards.

Dear Lakshmipathi,
Thanks for the prompt response and suggestion. I believe I have not been able to clarify my requirement. I understand that at depot level RG23D only should be updated and RG1 or RG23A has got no relevance. My query is, when the goods are being sent from plant to depot, RG1 register is updated which will capture the excise values in the outgoing excise invoice. Now later on when I find that I have sent goods at wrong price(ie charged less excise duties), I need to generate a supplementary invoice and issue a debit memo to the depot to balance my revenue accounts. Now, in this case , how I shall post the differential amount to the registers at plant level and during utilization how the set off will take place between sales and procurement?
As regards the A-certificate part I have understood the entire process and have completed the same.
Also I need your inputs in the following scenario:
Incase If I have charged more excise to the customer during sale from factory, how the same amount will be adjusted in the registers.
Process Flow: Factory Sales
VA01 u2013 Create Order                                    - 10 Pc
VL01N u2013 Create Delivery & PGI                 - 10 Pc
VF01 u2013 Create Commercial Invoice             - BED- 1000 , ECS u2013 20 , SheCess - 10
J1IIN u2013 Create Outgoing excise invoice      - BED- 1000 , ECS u2013 20 , SheCess - 10
J1I5-Update RG1 register
J2I5-Extract RG1 register
J2I6- Print RG1 Register
We realized that we have charged more price as a result even excise is charged more to the Customer.
So the steps that we are thinking are as follows:
Actual Excise values should have been BED- 800 , ECS u2013 16 , SheCess - 8
1)Create Credit Memo
2)Create Excise JV through J1IH ( Additional Excise ) - Excise Amount : BED- 200 , ECS u2013 4 , SheCess - 2
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Now our question is when we are creating Excise JV through J1IH ( Additional Excise ), RG23A Register is getting updated and additional values getting added.
So now my RG23A balance of Purchases is BED-1800 , ECS u2013 36 , SheCess - 18
So in Utilization i.e. in T-Code : J2IUN, Available Balances are decreased. But Outgoing excise values to be sett off are not getting affected anyways.
This means that my excise values of Purchases i.e. RG23A Part 2 are getting decreased and Excise values during sales are not getting affected which we feel is not correct.
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1. Excise Indicator for Plant :- in Excise Inv. Comp. selected 3 (No Tax) indicator, because I want to upload excise value on inventory.
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>we are rolling out a new plant for which we have old stocks which were done with the Movement type "561".We want to do Excise invoice at depot using the T.Code J1IG.but we dont have corresponding excise invice at Factory.Please advice is there any Business process available to bring the initial inventory.
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Hi Nambi.N
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Deal All,
I am having depot sales scanrio.Steps are as follows
Client will do stock transfer from Plant to depot. Say 100 qty
I will Do MIGo at depot for 100 qty.
then i will do J1IG i.e. capture excise invoice at depot to update RG23D,but in standard J1iG will be w.r.t to MIGo no so it is updated for 100qty.
but my client want to capture only 10 qty in RG23D BUT WITH STD I CAN CAPtURE ALL 100 QTY.
because he will pass on excise only if customer ask for excise invoice.So his requirement is that he will only capture 10 qty and issue same qty in J1IJ
how to do ???
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SD Consultant
Edited by: sapsdguy on Feb 1, 2010 1:04 PM

Dear SAPSDGUY,
Kindly prefer to carry out goods receipt for the quantity intended for RG23D capture, as a single material document, and the other, as a seperate material document. Enter the incoming excise invoice, with reference to the initial material document.
This may be later considered for issue to customer.
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Trust you find the suggestion useful.
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K Gopidas.

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Can any one guide me during sales return how excise gets reversed as we would have already paid to the govt during sales how do we take input credit back
please do explain with GL account entries and an example if possible will be very grateful to you
Its of high priority as i have a presentation in front of my client

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T.Code for copy control: VTFA
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Item category G2N (Check in System)
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>
Gino12 wrote:
> Hai Gurus,
>
> Is there any other procedure I have to follow other than J1ih after creating credit memo billing for excise entries .
>
> regards
>
> Jose
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