EXCISE in Customer Returned Material

Had searched, but couldnt find this kind of query
Hai All,
Actual sales - OR - DEL- pgi- Invoice - Outgoing Exc.Invoice-
now, when customer returning goods,
RE order ( with / without ref) - LR - pgr - RE - Cr for Returns ( i havent created any exc invoice for RE billing)
How to reverse the excise entries, in both cases ( with OR without ref to OR/F2)
I did - J1I7 to know find the Outgoing Exc.Invocie of original/ref Billing doc-
( how can we find, if there is no ref when creating RE-order?)
Then, I tried to Capture Exc.Invoice- J1IEX ( wrt: Without Purchase ORder -EWPO)-
I entered the Original Outgoing Excise invoice - system throws mssg as " Material Document can not be processed"-
am I following wrong path? - or you want me to Make Adjustments directly in J1IH ( all debit entries - Other adj / Credit entries- Addnl Adjust) .
Please Clarify-

DOne
flow:
VA01-VL01N-VF01-J1IH

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Hi all,
Can any one explain the steps for Customer Returns with Excise Duties.
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