Exporting 23.98fps 720P project for PAL DVD

I'm trying to create a PAL DVD from a HDV 23.98fps 720P project and am having a few issues. All the footage is PAL and I am converting it to an SD file as it is for an SD DVD however exporting through FCP gives me black frames, using DVD studio pro to convert gives me a freeze frame effect (both of which I assume is through converting 23.98 to 25 fps) so I was told to use Compressor. I tried this but can only seem to render out a 23.98fps file as NTSC, whenever I switch it to PAL it automatically changes to 25fps as my only option.
Any help would be much appreciated as my deadline is looming.

Hi:
Are you sure that your footage is PAL 23.98 fps? I'm not involved with HDV but that sounds like NTSC frames.
What is the source of that footage?
Hope that helps !
Alberto

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after I've been days on DvxUser forum, tried various solution found there I'm ending up with a simple question as an HVX200 user:
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Hopefully if these 30 glorious years are just the begging, the next will be also HD PAL years!!
piero

Hi Shane,
thanks for your point of view, I always appreciate your advices in this forum.
Back to issue, the problem is Capture (digitizer) that is limited to 1080i50 not for Compressor (if you look inside the Capture Preset 1080i 50), so you can't use any other option than P2 card or Firestore to get the other HD Pal formats.
I also want to share (may be someone else already did it, but as in latin "Repetita juvant") the link on that helpful site on FCP and DvcPro HD, and Hvx200 also. He has done a great job for all of us pal'ers:
http://www.aulich-adamski.de/wp-content/720p50HVX200en.pdf
So the points are:
- The world is going HD? Yes! So our business!
- ok Hdv has been adopted by major prosumer camera maker.
- the DvcPro HD Pal codec is not that new (the Varicam, the 900, etc).
- the HVX200 in just few months, as you can read on DvxUser forum, is very popular in all of the application (indie, commercial, music video, doc, feature film or tv series) and the results are very good.
- Is FCP a pro application? Yes, so...support professional people.
- It's much more easier to work in FCP with DvcPro codec than Hdv.
- I've seen many posts of Hvx users that were asking for a live capture solution apart from Firestore and similar. We are in that group, as we've to shoot hours of live content.
- The new Mac Book Pro cannot (by now) accept P2 Cards 'cause the express slot. So we were buying two of them for HD work but we put them on hold and keep the PBook. So the alternative for MBP is capturing live via firewire, but limited in Pal market.
- Last but not least: Panasonic DvcPro HD Fcp plugin Frame Converter (for VFR) does NOT work in Pal even if you capture through P2 card.
May be is also Panasonic that is slow in updating Pal tools, who knows, but the only other alternative (that you can find on the site above) is using a Component HD card to capture the other formats, that means that you have to carry in studio/location at least a G5...
Finally, as I'm not a developper: does it take that long and is that heavy work to translate a QT digitizer codec from 24p to 25p? or from 60 to 50?
I'm pretty sure that if you do an online poll for Hvx users to pay 5 euro each one to have that codecs done by some developper, they will !!!
Take care,
piero
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