Extended Classic Purchase Order created from RFx Response having complex pricing conditions enabled

Hello Colleagues,
I am currently analysing the correct usage of the complex pricing conditions in the sourcing process and wanted to understand the usage of the complex pricing condtions ( 01CT , dis % , header disc% , location dependent conditions , etc. with or without scales , ) while creating a extended classic purchase order directly as follow on document from rfx response.
How relevant is the price conditions 01CT. Consider a case if the price condition from rfx response to po is changed to price manual 01PB but the price is correctly copied when the po is initially created from rfx response.
Is this is the correct system behaviour ?
Kindly help to clarify the above points.
Thanks & Best Regards,
Rahul

Hi
 You can either of these BADIs to handlwe the scenario.
BBP_CREATE_BE_PO_NEW Exit while creating a purchase order in the backend system
BBP_CREATE_PO_BACK OLD Exit while creating a PO in the backend system
BBP_ECS_PO_OUT_BADI ECS: PO Transfer to Logistics Backend
BBP_EXTLOCALPO_BADI Control Extended Classic Scenario
Hope this will help.
Please reward suitable points.
Regards
- Atul

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