Extended Network Question

I just bought a Seagate GoFlex media player mainly to use for playing movies from a GoFlex hard drive, but it also has capability to stream Netflix etc, but only via an ethernet connection.
I have an AirPort Extreme as my primary router, extended by an AirPort Express which is close to the TV.
Can I run an ethernet cable from the AirPort Express to the Seagate media player?

Hello JDChicago. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
I have an AirPort Extreme as my primary router, extended by an AirPort Express which is close to the TV.
Can I run an ethernet cable from the AirPort Express to the Seagate media player?
Yes.

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Wds vs extended network questions

little background first...task is to setup a closed WPA2 wireless network consisting of 4 mac minis (duo cores/10.4.10 fully updated) and 3 or 4 AEBS' on the 5GHz band. One AEBS will be connected via ethernet to an existing router (DHCP) while the others need to extend the network. I've had the masses working exceptionally well as a WDS (main/relay/remote) and as an extended network (main/ext/ext/ext) in a test area but have a few questions i've been unable to find answers to:
1. As an extended network, how many AEBS' can be setup to extend the network? (as bridges)
2. Any way to enable/select the 5GHz band for a WDS setup?
3. All the mini's except for one with Airport Admin 5.1 installed join the network automatically after sleep, shutdown etc. The fix on the support page works but is this issue possibly due to the new airport admin util? I'd like to keep the WPA2 security in place even tho it's a closed network and have a local machine able to administer these things if possible.
cheers for a quick response.

shaker440, Welcome to the discussion area!
1. As an extended network, how many AEBS' can be setup to extend the network? (as bridges)
I'm sure there is a maximum but I don't know the number.
2. Any way to enable/select the 5GHz band for a WDS setup?
WDS is an 802.11b/g feature and therefore not supported when using 5 GHz. However 802.11n has a new "extend network" feature.
I'd like to keep the WPA2 security in place even tho it's a closed network and have a local machine able to administer these things if possible.
Is this a question? WPA2 is great security and you should use it. A "closed" network is a deception and only fools you into thinking it adds any security. The SSID/Network name is still broadcast between any connected client and the base station. Therefore the network name is easily detectable.
Any machine can be used to configure the AEBS at any time. There is no machine designated as the controller or admin.

Time Capsule Access Control and Extended Network Question

I have a Time Capsule where I have set up a wireless network access list…and extended the network using an Airport Express unit. The Airport Express unit also has settings for an Access Control list. Do these need to be the same as the those for the network from TC that it is extending…or does that happen automatically…and if not what on earth are they for?
Thanks for any help…this doesn't seem clear from what I've read/seen.
James

I have a Time Capsule where I have set up a wireless network access list…and extended the network using an Airport Express unit. The Airport Express unit also has settings for an Access Control list. Do these need to be the same as the those for the network from TC that it is extending…or does that happen automatically…and if not what on earth are they for?
Unfortunately, they are not automatically applied to each base station in an extended network. You would have to manually enter the exact same list in each base station.

Extending Network Question

I have just set up my network of time capsule's, and airport's, what does the chain of different bases mean, can I change it?

The Bedrom AirPort Extreme and Piano Room AirPort Express are both "extending" the wireless signal wirelessly from the Basement Time Capsule.
The Living Room AirPort Express has "joined" the wireless network signal provided by the Bedroom AirPort Extreme, but it is not "extending" it, or providing any additional wireless signal coverage in the Living Room.
When the Express "joins" a wireless network, it can be used for Airtunes, or you could connect a USB printer to the device.
In order for the Living Room AirPort Express to "extend" the signal from the Time Capsule, it will need to be about the same distance from the Time Capsule as the Bedroom AirPort Extreme or Piano Room AirPort Express.
The Living Room AirPort Express also needs to be closer to the Time Capsule that it is to either the Bedroom AirPort Extreme or Piano Room AirPort Express.....if you want the Living Room AirPort Express to provide more wireless coverage.
When the Living Room AirPort Express is set up to "extend", there will be a dotted line between the Time Capsule and the Living Room Expess, and you will see 3 devices on the graphic, all connected to the Time Capsule.
The reason behind all this.....Apple's "extend" setup will only allow you to "extend" a signal one time. You can have multiple devices extending a signal, but each extending device must connect to the main router....the Time Capsule in your case.

Other extended network question

just wondering.... i have 2 airport extremes dualband 3 gen...
if i create and extend a network with both 2.4ghZ and 5ghZ (g+n), will it be slower than just a 2.4ghZ network??
meaning if i tell the extremes to create a dual band network, will the performance lose performance?

you mean i cant extend the 5ghZ network?
The AirPort Extreme will extend both 2.4 GHz and 5 GHz if it is located where it can receive a strong wireless signal from the "main" AirPort Extreme.
Keep in mind that 5 GHz tends to work best when it has line of sight or close to that ideal between connecting devices. That is because 5 GHz signals are much weaker than 2.4 GHz signals, so they do not penetrate walls and other obstructions nearly as well as 2.4 GHz signals.
You may need to experiment with the location of the extending AirPort Extreme. Normally, you would locate an extender at a point that is about half the distance from your main router to the area that needs more wireless coverage. But, walls, ceilings, etc and other obstructions will always come into play.
Remember that in order to gain somethings else.....speed in the case of 5 GHz.....you always have to give up something else......penetration power in the case of 5 GHz.

Question about extending network

I just ordered the brand new Airport Extreme. My current Airport Extreme is about 6 years old so I upgraded to take advantage of the better WiFi speeds. What I'm wondering is what I can do with my old Airport Extreme, which still works fine. Does it make sense to set it up somewhere else in the house to extend my wireless signal further away from my new one, and if so, how do I ensure that I'm not connecting to the slower Extreme signal than the newer one if it is extending the network.

Which old model AirPort Extreme do you have?
Round shaped? Square shaped?
If it's the square version, it can be set up to "extend a wireless network", but the extending AirPort will of course not run at 802.11ac speeds.
how do I ensure that I'm not connecting to the slower Extreme signal than the newer one if it is extending the network.
Wireless devices will connect to the AirPort with the strongest signal, which is also going to be the closest AirPort at the time. No way to avoid that.
If you want to maintain 802.11ac speeds throughout an extended network, you will need two new AirPort Extremes.

HT4259 With extended network, which device do I connect to?

I set up my Time Capsule as my base station and extended the network using an Airport Express. My question is, when I am logged onto the base station, will my computer automatically select whichever signal is stronger, the time capsule or the airport express... OR do I need to manually select whichever one is stronger?
I am guessing it will automatically select but I have not read this anywhere and would like to confirm.
THANKS!

will my computer automatically select whichever signal is stronger, the time capsule or the airport express...
Yes, that's the whole idea behind having an extended network.

Packet Loss When Extending Network?

Hi there, everyone.
I just purchased the Airport Extreme AC after upgrading to 802.11AC devices in the home. On its own, the Extreme AC performs flawlessly - consistent connections, max speed my ISP provides, no-lag, no studdering, no packet loss. I was dissapointed with the range of the device at the far ends of my home, so I set up my previous generation Airport Extreme to extend the network.
It extends the network fine, speeds are about half of what I get at the source, but the issue is that when it is part of the network, I experience packet loss, anywhere from 3% to 8%. I've tested this multiple times, unplugging, testing, replugging, testing. It happens both wirelessly and through ethernet. The issue is no question caused by the previous gen Airport extending the network.
Any help here would be great!
Setup:
- Motorla Surfboard SB6141
- WAN into Airport Extreme AC
- Previous generation Airport Extreme to extend the network, no special settings.
Don't be afraid to use techincal terminology to help me. I can follow and understand the majority of it, as I'm pretty into all of this.

I'm not aware of anything that has changed in the 802.11ac version of the AirPort base stations that would induce the packet loss that you are seeing with an extended network over using an earlier generation. I am assuming, of course, that you are extending another Apple wireless router ... correct?
Typically I would recommend that you would review the placement of the extending base station to be sure that it is in the optimal spot to reproduce the signal with the greatest amount of bandwidth possible. (Ref: This AirPort User Tip)

Airport Express extending network needs to be restarted daily

I'm having a really annoying problem with my Airport network. Here's the configuration:
Den: Latest generation simultaneous Dual-Band Airport Extreme
Living Room: older 802.11g Airport Express used only for AirPlay
Office: older 802.11n Airport Express wired to the Airport Extreme via ethernet, extending network
Hallway: 802.11n Airport Express wirelessly joining and extending network
Bedroom: Latest generation simultaneous Dual-Band Airport Express wirelessly joining and extending network
I have an older house which is not terribly big but the radio-opaque walls make it difficult to propogate wireless, thus the need for so many units.
It all works pretty well except for my bedroom Airport Express (simultaneous Dual-Band). On a daily basis it will lose connection with the network or go so painfull slowly that it's pointless. The only solution is to do a reboot of the unit which works temporarily (good connection / good speeds) My son likes to watch Roku in our bedroom and that Roku uses the WiFi that the Airport Express should provide. Needless to say troubleshooting wifi when your 3 year old is crying because he can't get 30 seconds of streaming before the signal craps out is not fun. Anybody have any suggestions???

"Hard reset" the bedroom Extreme to preclude the possibility that some corrupted internal parameter is limiting its performance. Consider doing that with all of them. They will subsequently need to be reconfigured.
Configure the den Extreme to provide a unique name for its 5 GHz network, and ensure all the devices capable of using it are using it, and not 2.4 GHz. Find out what your Roku is capable of using.
The key to solving problems, if your challenging requirements are solvable, is to start with as simple an installation as possible, then progressively add to it. Find out the maximum usable range of your den's Extreme in both 2.4 and 5 GHz bands, then position any devices used to "wirelessly extend" its signal roughly half the distance to that Extreme - not a different base station. The ideal location for the Roku's Express may not necessarily be in the bedroom.
Run speed tests each time and make sure you are not trying to "extend" a weak signal. "Extending" a weak signal makes it stronger, but no faster that what it receives.
That's all you can do.
... I thought "N" networks minimized that problem.
You're right about that.
The thing is I get decent wireless reception in the bedroom WITHOUT the express plugged in.
I wonder if those devices are really using the Express you think they are. That's the problem with multiple base stations. There are ways of addressing this question but not with the current AirPort Utility version.

Using router "transparently" to extend network?

Hi, all... this is probably an ethernet networking question, rather than strictly a Snow Leopard question, but I'm hoping someone might know the answer...
I have a Cable Modem delivering the internet to my Time Capsule, which is providing a wireless network downstairs in my house. It doesn't reach well to the loft upstairs, where my kids have their computers, so I have used a pair of "powerline ethernet" plugs to carry the network upstairs, One is wired into the time capsule, and the one in the loft is connected to the "WAN" socket on my old Belkin 4-port wireless router. I've turned off the wireless, so it's just acting as an ethernet router.
If I plug the two computers in the loft into the router with its default settings, they can connect to the internet with no problem.
However, they can't see the printer, which is wirelessly connected to the network downstairs, nor can they share iTunes or anything like that.
The router upstairs is set up by default to have the IP address 192.168.2.1, with DHCP running, NAT and so on. The Time Capsule assigns IP addresses in the 10.0.0.x range.
I wonder whether the problem with the printer and iTunes shares is that the router and two machines upstairs are effectively on a separate small network.
Is it possible to set up the router so that it connects the two machines upstairs "transparently", so that the IP addresses are assigned by the Time Capsule, and they are both effectively on the SAME network as downstairs? If so, what modes/settings do I need to change on the router upstairs? If I turn off DHCP on the upstairs router, will the Time Capsule DHCP the upstairs computers, or will they just not get IP addresses and fail to be on any network at all? Do I leave DHCP on the router upstairs ON, but change the router's base IP address and assignment range to be within the range of the Time Capsule network?
As you can tell, I really don't know enough about Ethernet to solve this one myself - can any of you fine folk help me out?
best regards,
Matt

I believe what you may need to try is to configure the loft router for bridged networking rather than using it as a separate router. Your upstairs network, if I understand your setup properly, is no on the same network as the one downstairs. But if the loft router is using bridged networking then it should simply be on whatever is brought upstairs by the Powerline Ethernet device. But I'm still not sure this will work since I'm not knowledgeable of the possible limitations of powerline ethernet devices. You still may not be able to connect to the printer from the loft.
What you might try is to use the TC downstairs and the router upstairs both with their wireless transceivers turned on. Configure the TC to allow its network to be extended. Configure the loft router to extend or join an existing network. If the two routers can establish and maintain a wireless connection then you can omit the powerline devices altogether.
For additional information: What happens if you connect the loft computer directly to the powerline device? Can you then connect to the downstairs printer? If so, then you know that how you are using the loft router is the problem. If you can't connect to the printer then you know the problem is with the powerline devices.

HT4628 Using an Airport Express and a second Airport Extreme to extend network; will proximity to AEX vs. AE make a real world difference in speed

I have set up an extended network (thanks go to Bob Timmons for his assistance) using an AE as a base station and a second AE and an Airport Express to extend the wireless signal. Comcast provides, so they say, 50 Mbps. The AEX is located in the bedroom where it is used more often and the AE is in the pantry (for occasional use in the garage.) Would I get better speed/signal strength if I switched the two devices; i. e., placed the Airport Extreme in the bedroom and the AEX in the pantry?

Thanks for your response. I set up the wireless network because running Cat-5 was cost prohibitive. My internet connection is very good for general purposes but I ask the question, somewhat academically, because Wi-Fi Explorer shows the Max Rate of the network devices as follows:
Airport Express (located in the bedroom): 144 Mbps @ 2.4 GHz
Airport Extreme (in the pantry): 217 [email protected] GHz
To reiterate, If these two changed locations would I get better speed/signal in the bedroom location? Does it even really matter since Comcast is "only" sending me 50 Mbps? Just a couple of questions to keep my mind active (and confused).

Extending network on both sides of Time Capsule

I need to extend network on both side of Time Capsule. One one side, there is a airport express "n" working great. I have an extra "g" airport express which I'd like to plug in on the other side, but a good distance away (about 125 feet). I could also purchase a second "n" if necessary. My questions:
1. Will this deteriorate my speeds on existing Time Capsule and Airport Express?
2. Do I need to set up the second Airport Express or simply plug it in?
3. Can I use the "g," with the understanding that there will be some speed deterioration on the "g" side, or would it be better to just go get a second "n."
I would greatly appreciate any help you could provide. Thanks

To clarify my unclear question: If I connect by the second airport express BY ETHERNET and it is a "g" rather an "n," will it have any affect on speeds for rest of network?
That is true. The Ethernet connection will not affect the other wireless network.
Also, not sure what you mean by "WDS?" Is that another term for airport extreme?
WDS == wireless distribution system
AirPort Utility 5.1 Help: Extending the range of your wireless network
And finally, by "range extender" I see a "Lynksys Wireless G Range Expander" on the market. Is that just another "airport" and would your answer to my question 4 apply to that?
"AirPort" is Apple's marketing term for 802.11 wireless networking. Therefore it does not apply to any Linksys device.
It is possible that it would answer question 4 but I have no experience with that device.

[AT&T 4S] Phone forced to Extended Network, won't come back

My phone recently showed that it was in the Extended Network despite being in an area of 4G/3G coverage. I know that there is valid coverage in the location because I had another iPhone 4S/AT&T user sitting right next to me with 4G service and full bars. It will remain in "Extended Network" (complete with reduced speeds) until I apply the only solution that I've found after numerous other solutions failed.
I tried the following solutions to no avail:
Turning on Airplane Mode and then turning it off
Resetting my network settings
Resetting my cellular data settings
Turned off/on Settings>Cellular Data, Settings>Data Roaming
Hard restart of the phone
Turning phone off/on
Removing and reinserting SIM card
The only solution that I've found to work is to do the following:
Remove the SIM card
Find another person that has a 4S on a DIFFERENT CARRIER (i.e., Verizon)
Remove their SIM card and insert it into my phone
Wait a minute or two to force the phone to go into "Activation Required" mode
I eject the DIFFERENT CARRIER SIM card
Put mine back in
Wait a minute or two until finally it somehow re-establishes itself onto the network and my 4G comes back
My question: is there an easier way to force the "Activation Required" mode to come up, or to achieve what this is doing? Like I said, simply popping my SIM card out/in doesn't work - that other carrier's card seems to be a key part of the process... I'm just worried that there won't always be someone with a 4S and a different carrier somewhere where I can use their SIM card....
Thanks!

Your phone is hacked, or inserting a SIM card from a different carrier would hot trigger a request to activate - it would tell you that no SIM is inserted. The hacking/jailbreaking is the source or this problem. No further help can be given here.
Unauthorized modification of iOS can cause security vulnerabilities, instability, shortened battery life, and other issues

Cannot set Airport Extreme to Extend Network

Hi all,
So I have a Time Capsule 2013 downstairs as my main base station, two other Expresses downstairs set to extend the network, and one Airport Extreme upstairs which I can't set to extend the network. During the setup in Airport Utility, it allows me to select "Extend Network (Recommended)" and the Time Capsule as the main base station that it would be extending. But when I check it in Airport Utility after it's set up, it shows it set to "Create a Wireless Network"
I have ethernet connected to the upstairs Extreme via a wall drop going straight to my FIOS router in a distribution panel. My main Time Capsule is also ethernet connected the same way going to the FIOS router.
So my question is... is the Extreme upstairs changing back to "Create a Wireless Network" because it is ethernet connected, unlike my two Express units downstairs? And secondly, is this the preferred method to set up my network? (basically, a Time Capsule and Airport Extreme each connected to a LAN port on my FIOS router, plus two Express units on wireless.). I've read where the optimal way is to interconnect the Airport devices over ethernet, but my distances are too great to do that.
Any feedback or advise would be much appreciated.
Thanks

is the Extreme upstairs changing back to "Create a Wireless Network" because it is ethernet connected
Yes. This is the correct setting.
It can be confusing, but when you "extend" using an Ethernet connection, the AirPort will use the "Create a wireless network" setting.
When you "extend" wirelessly, the AirPort will use the "Extend a wireless network" setting.
If you try to connect using Ethernet, and use the "Extend a wireless network" setting, the "extended" network will crash.
is this the preferred method to set up my network?
A wired Ethernet connection is always preferred over a wireless connection when you are extending the network. The main reason for this is that there is no bandwidth loss in a wire.
When you "extend" wirelessly, the extending device can only extend or repeat the bandwidth that it receives. By the time that the wireless signal reaches the extending device, it has slowed down considerably. So, a slower signal gets repeated.

Extending Network and Gaming Consoles

I have a airport extreme set up in my office. Downstairs I have 4 gaming consoles, which require fast internet speeds other wise it effects game play. The signal where 2 of my consoles are do not get great reception. So I know I can use an airport express, plug it in where I get reception downstairs and have it extend the range of my network.
However, I have 2 questions about this:
1) I have my extreme set up for N and my gaming consoles are G. The extreme is backwards compatible, but will the same hold true if I add an Express to the network? Will my G consoles still work?
2) In my head I think this would slow down the speed. I would think my console would have to go through an express, then the express sends up to my extreme, then finally out to the internet. Would adding an express slow the connection at all because now it has one extra point it travels through?
Thanks,
Andrew

1) I have my extreme set up for N and my gaming consoles are G. The extreme is backwards compatible, but will the same hold true if I add an Express to the network? Will my G consoles still work?
The 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) can be added to your network configuration to extend the wireless range of the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn). If you configure the overall extended network for the "802.11n (802.11b/g compatible)" radio mode, your "g" game consoles should be able to connect.
2) In my head I think this would slow down the speed. I would think my console would have to go through an express, then the express sends up to my extreme, then finally out to the internet. Would adding an express slow the connection at all because now it has one extra point it travels through?
The bottom line ... yes, extending the network and support for "g" clients will reduce the overall bandwidth available for the wireless network. If bandwidth performance is critical, you may want to consider switching to an all Ethernet-based solution.

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