Extreme WDS & Express Settings

Trying (in vain, since Sunday) to set up an LG BluRay wireless into myAirport network.
The only way it sees a network is if I use WDS. Believe me, I've tried every combination possible.
I have an Extreme base station & am extending network downstairs to tv room & "N" express. The express is set up as a remote, but when I also check "allow wireless clients" so that the LG sees the network, the utility shows both devices, but can't read the config on the express & it stalls.... never completing the read so I can continue.
Am I doing something wrong?? Thanks!

Thanks for clarifying. You will definitely want to take advantage of the newer base station's "extend" feature over a WDS.
I suggest that we go over your base station configurations just to be sure something wasn't missed. Also, during the setup, I recommend either connecting the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn) directly to one of the available LAN ports on the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) or (at least) bring it into close proximately.
Before going over the configuration, what is the distance (roughly) the AXn will be from the AEBSn in its desired location by the Blu-Ray player?
The following will be the basic configuration of the base stations that I would like for you to double-check:
For the AEBSn: (Note: We will be using the AirPort Utility in the Manual Setup mode for these checks.)
o AirPort > Wireless > Wireless Mode = Create a wireless network
o AirPort > Wireless > Allow this network to be extended (enabled/checked)
o AirPort > Internet > Internet Connection > Connect Using = Ethernet
o AirPort > Internet > Internet Connection > Connection Sharing = Share a public IP address
For the AXn:
o AirPort > Wireless > Wireless Mode = Extend a wireless network
o AirPort > Wireless > Wireless Network Name = <the Network Name of the wireless network created by the AEBSn>
o AirPort > Wireless > Allow wireless clients (enabled/checked)
Do these settings match yours?

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Airport Extreme + WDS Express & Access Control

I'm using the Airport Express to extend my network. When I try to setup the Access Control and update the Extreme, the Express list is empty, do I have to setup the whole list again for Express?

...do I have to setup the whole list again for Express?
You should be aware that the MAC addresses of connected clients are broadcast wirelessly and easily detected. Once detected they can be cloned and other machines can masquerade as allowed clients and join your network.
If you want security, use WPA2 or WPA wireless encryption with a non-dictionary password.

Express and extreme WDS

Has anyone managed to do this? I have followed the instructions given here, but I cannot get the airports to see each other. Indeed, the airports cannot see any wireless network in a position where my freinds' PC can see five (including the two created by the airports).

I have an extreme and express WDS and it does work fine apart from a speed issue recently but that is a different thread!
One thing I found with the Airport was that different computers got different signal levels. My ibook gets a strong signal all around the house when just the Extreme downstairs is switched on, but my iMac G5 upstairs will keep losing the connection unless I turn on the express in the same room, however the iBook gets a good signal regardless. So just because a friends machine can see the airports doesn't mean they must be able to see each other. Are they in the same room? If not, try getting them working in WDS mode in close proximity first. Also check for sources of interference such as DECT cordless phones and microwaves.
You can test that the WDS is working by moving between the ranges of the base stations with Internet Connect open, you will see the MAC address for the base station change.

Extreme and Express help... can't seem to co-exist?

Hey guys and gals. I'm having a bit of a problem with my AirPort Extreme and Express and need your help/recommendations. Okay first some background info...
I have a MacBook Pro (C2D), an Apple TV, and an iPhone that all connect to my AirPort Extreme (n draft spec). I had the AirPort Extreme running at n (b/g compatible). No problem.
Then I decided to get an AirPort Express so that I could stream my music from iTunes over to my Allen & Heath Xone 92 mixer and thus my nice Mackie studio monitors (i.e. use AirTunes to stream music to speakers). In hooked up all the hardware (i.e. the monster cable and the power cord) for the Express, then installed the supplied AirPort CD. I then phoned Apple Care because I didn't want to mess anything up. I don't remember what steps I took exactly with the representative, but basically at the end of the day we got the music to stream. Great! Well not so much... I didn't realize while I was on the phone that we had actually set up (I think this is correct) 2 "networks"... one was the AirPort Extreme, the other was the AirPort Express. So if I wanted to use the internet, I had to choose Extreme. If I wanted to stream music, I had to choose Express and no choice of using both at the same time.
So yesterday I phone Apple again... Explain the situation, and we hard reset both the Extreme and Express, this time setting up the Express as a WDS (wireless distribution system). Now I can use the internet and stream music at the same time. Great! Well not so much... now whenever I stream music it cuts out for minutes at a time, not really working properly.
So I phone Apple for the third time... We change a whole bunch of settings, delete preference files (BIG mistake... reset all my energy settings, .Mac, etc.... thanks Apple!!!!) and at the end of like 4 different scenarios basically reset the Extreme and Express, but this time under the guise that the reason the last setup was cutting out while streaming music was that the Extreme was using WPA2 security and the Express only really likes WEP. So I change to WEP when I hard reset the Extreme, hard reset the Express, do a WDS and everything seems to be working (while on the phone with Apple). Great! Not so much... hahahaha.
So now the issue is that I can't connect to the AirPort Extreme network all the time... it shows up under my lists of networks (along with some of my neighbor's networks) but OS X will not automatically connect to it. When I select it I get the "error while trying to connect" error. Also my iPhone will not automatically connect to the AirPort Extreme either.
So basically what the heck is going on??? How can I have my AirPort Extreme, AirPort Express, iPhone, and Apple TV all co-exist on a network and be able to at the same time browse the internet and stream music over AirTunes???
Sorry for the long read... Please help!
-Keith

Unless you have a requirement to extend your 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station's (AEBSn) wireless network with the AirPort Express Base Station (AX), then you only needed to set up the AX in "client mode" to stream iTunes.
AirPort Express Base Station (AX) - iTunes Setup
Either connect to the AX's wireless network or connect directly, using an Ethernet cable, to the Ethernet port of the AX, and then using the AirPort Utility in "Manual Setup" mode, make the following changes:
AirPort > Base Station
o Base Station Name: <rename or leave default>
o Base Station Password: <enter desired password>
o Verify Password: <re-enter desired password>
AirPort > Wireless
o Wireless Mode: Join a wireless network
o Network Name: <existing AEBSn's wireless network>
o Wireless Security: <select the encryption type of the existing wireless network>
Music
o Enable AirTunes (checked)
o Enable AirTunes over Ethernet (optional)
o iTunes Speaker Name: <enter desired speaker name>
o iTunes Speaker Password: (optional)
o Verify Password: (optional)

Airport extreme and express & apple TV

I have an airport extreme and express & apple TV. I'd like to do the following:
1) Extend the network via the express
2) Enable the express to stream music to the stereo from the apple TV
I am sure someone has figured this out but I can't find the answer...
Thank you

Firstly, the easiest bit (although I don't believe you need to do this):
I would try "downgrading" the Extreme station's network type to only b/g (excluding n entirely), but I don't see that option in the radio settings anymore
You will get additional settings if you hold down the option key while browsing the radio settings drop down menu.
Moving on: Unfortunately a dropped connections seems to be a problem with umpteen causes and not only is it difficult to troubleshoot with someone in a forum it can also be made even more difficult because many problems are associated with network settings on a router that the person who is trying to help is unfamiliar with.
However you seem to be convinced your problems arise when your express is running which may narrow things down a little if correct, if not it may actually lead us away from the answer to your issue.
Is it the kind of security I'm running? Should I try WEP or... none at all?
I use WPA and have no problems (password = 8 Characters)
Should I attach it a different way? Perhaps manually set it to "participate in a WDS network" or "extend a wireless network?
I have my expresses set to participate in a WDS network, but that's because I use them for other things other than itunes, I would have thought 'join a network' would be fine.
You could check that all your devices are using independent IP addresses and all are using the same subnet. You could also check that no two devices have the same mac address, I've been told a million times this can't happen, but I've seen it. You may be wise to check these things before and after your devices have been 'kicked off the network", you may even want to write them down to see if any are changing.

Can't get Airport Extreme and Express to join same network

I recently bought an Airport Extreme so I could create a wireless network with my Airport Express. THis way I could browse the internet and stream music to my stereo at the same time. After spending hours trying to get both AP Extreme and Express linked together in a WDS network, I have failed time and time again. I have no problem setting the AP Extreme as the WDS main. My iMac and laptop connect to the AP Extreme just fine. I can set up the AP Express to stream music via iTunes to my stereo without problems. But to get them working together in the same network has got me stumped.
I've set the AP Extreme as WDS main and Express as WDS remote. They are both set to same wireless channel. Where am I going wrong? Is it a 802.11n/802.11g compatibility issue?
I'd appreciate any insight. Thanks.

adrian,
I have done this a dozen time today with different base stations like yours.
The only thing I can think of is this:
1. With the WDS Main, make sure you have the address of the Remote in the box.
2. With the WDS Remote, make sure you have the address of the Main in the box.
3. Make sure both base stations have the same network name in the wireless tab.
Then restart both base stations.
Let us know what you find out.
Joseph Kriz

Setting up a mixed g and n network on 1st Extreme + newer Express?

I have a first gen Airport Extreme 802.11n (flat white, first one they made before adding on gigabyte ethernet). It is great for my needs. It goes into a cable modem. The Extreme handles all routing and the rest. The modem is just a modem that, BTW, Comcast forces me to rent because I use their phone service and customers cannot buy a separate “Voip” specific to Comcast for use with a cable modem they already own. So a perfectly good Moto DOCIS 3.x modem I own sits idle…)
Anyhow…
I had a first gen Airport Express (very limited in capability). It died. So I got a new Airport Express 802.11n (flat white) about a year ago. I hooked that up mostly to use on a printer and for travel. I made it part of my main network. It “extends” it but, my house/property is very small. A large Wi-Fi network is not needed but, seemed only option to be on network and print.
Recently, I added yet another device to my Wi-Fi network. A small router for an AV receiver. It was, alas, 802.11g. I also have two other g devices and maybe a third and fourth (I’ll have to check, both I rarely use. One is unplugged as I rarely use it and the other is hooked up to an internet TV that is rarely used).
All of these devices worked great until I turn on my old Mac Mini, which I think is also 802.11g. Before that AV receiver router was added, it was fine. But now, Wi-Fi on it is basically gone. Except, when it isn’t!
For some reason, my network has decided that the Mini should connect via the Express. Since other g’s are on that, I think that is the problem. I don’t see how it happens but, sometimes, it connects with the older Extreme. When that happens, it seems to work great! Note, I did try using just he Express in place of the Extreme hooked up to the cable modem for the entire network but, it could not handle it. The Extreme can.
Since both the Extreme and Express are similar as 802.11n Wi-Fi routers except, the Express says something like revision 1 when I look at it on iOS Airport Utility (is it “better” in some way?) I think the solution is telling the Extreme and Express to only accept certain devices.
How can I tell each router to accept only certain devices? The old Extreme has one way (it seems) of doing this while the Express has another. But neither is precisely what I think I need to do. The settings for this are under the Wireless Options button under the Wireless tab in Airport Utility (latest, OSX). But if you can answer this question with any knowledge, you know that!
I’d just buy a new Extreme which, I think, allows radio signal frequency segregation (or whatever this is called) but, alas, these two Wi-Fi routers work great (except for the Mini) and I’d like to use them until one actually dies.

You still refuse to discuss data versus radio signal.
So, I guess that is that. You have no proof to back up your contention as neither do I.
Granted, from the g device to my Express, it is at g speeds. But, I contend, that once that g radio signal is converted back to data only (now at speed of light) inside the Express, the Express sends that data, via the exclusive “Extended network” connection, to the Extreme, at n speed. It has to as the Extreme will only take n speed.
Sure, it is splitting hairs, if I am right. I am not saying I am. But my idea (before our branch debate on g and n signal versus data upon arrival at the Express) is an interesting way to force old g clients to use only one router. But to force those pesky g clients to use the newer simultaneous dual band Express by setting the Extreme to 5GHz g only was a new solution for me. It worked too. In that case, it is not about minute speed gains or losses but simply letting the g clients have their one party at the Express, which can handle them better when part of an extended network with an older, original Extreme.
It is also far better to just have one Wi-Fi router as, adding Airport routers in an extended network, slows things down 60% or less and requires more "data management overheard", according to Apple*.
It is interesting that they said data management overhead and not radio signal management?
Alternatively, using the “Roaming network” method where the two stations are linked via Ethernet, is an even better option.
* https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT202056

802.11n AirPort Extreme and Express

Hello,
Thank you in advance for all your help and replies, I truly appreciate it.
I'm looking to purchase an 802.11n Airport Extreme and AirPort Express. I want to setup the Extreme next to my DSL modem and setup the Express in another room and have it extend the wireless network. The Express will also serve as an ethernet port from my DVR unit. I have read different posts that indicated that if I setup the Express to wirelessly connect to the Extreme, via WDS, or some other method, the wireless network will be downgraded to 802.11g. I currently have a 802.11g wireless network. I have one Buffalo Technology 802.11g wireless router and one Buffalo Technology 802.11g router (setup as an access point) and can do everything I need except connect a external HD via USB.
If at all possible, I would like the entire network (Extreme and Express) to use the same SSID and password. Have the Extreme perform the MAC filtering, provide DHCP address, and service a guest network.
So, do I understand what I have read correctly, that connecting an 802.11n Extreme and 802.11n Express via wireless (WDS, or other method) will downgrade the network to 802.11g? Are there any other recommendations on how I should connect these two devices and provide 802.11n service?
Again, thank you in advance.
--GMReed

When using the "extend" feature with the new 802.11n base stations, the extended wireless network operates in the 802.11n mode. I believe you may be referring to one of two things that may have led you to that conclusion: 1) When extending a network with the older static version of a WDS, the extended network operates in the 802.11g mode. This is true when either or both base stations are 802.11g models, and 2) Non-"n" wireless clients, connected to a "n" network, will bring the network down to the lowest bandwidth level of the oldest standard. Although connecting these types of clients does affect the overall bandwidth available to "n" clients, it does NOT bring the overall wireless network down to "g" or "b" level.
>If at all possible, I would like the entire network (Extreme and Express) to use the same SSID and password.
By default, both base stations must uses the same Network Name or SSID and wireless password to work properly.
>Have the Extreme perform the MAC filtering, provide DHCP address, and service a guest network.
For MAC filtering in an extended network, both base stations must be configured with the same MAC addresses for all clients that you want access to the extended network. The Extreme would provide DHCP service, but (unfortunately) you cannot extend the guest network.

Network with Airport Extreme, Airport Express and Time Capsule

Hi,
I have a good internet connection working perfectly in the following order. ISP connected by ethernet (cable) to an AE and this extended to an EX and this extended to a new TC. The AE and AX are 801.11 b/g/n but not dual as the new TC. My question is. If I work with an iPhone, the AE is going to work just with g forcing to TC to work with g as well with the rest of the equipments (AppleTV, other iPhones, iMac? I have an iMac that should be connected to the new TC and I would like to do it by 802.11n, is it possible in this configuration? I now that it would better if I organize the network with the new TC (dual) first. However, the TC is too far from the iMac and this is not my favorite option.
Another question is:
The new TC is very close to AppleTV but wirelessly. Will I increase the speed for watching movies which are placed at TC (through external disks connected to the USB in the new TC) if I connect the TC to AppleTV using an ethernet cable?
Thanks,
Jokin

... My question is. If I work with an iPhone, the AE is going to work just with g forcing to TC to work with g as well with the rest of the equipments
The answer is yes, but I believe you can avoid that by having the iPhone connect only to the new dual band TC. Configure *everything else* to run an 802.11n network exclusively - not "802.11n (b/g compatible)". This way the iPhone will be unable to connect to that network, causing it to run in the slower b/g compatible mode. Your iPhone will work fine, as long as it remains within range of your TC's 802.11g wireless network.
Remember that you will need to change all your equipment's settings: the Extreme, the Express, the TC, and maybe the AppleTV.
Galt's rule of networking: "The number of problems you encounter increases exponentially with the number of devices on your network."
So... proceed methodically.
The new TC is very close to AppleTV but wirelessly. Will I increase the speed for watching movies which are placed at TC (through external disks connected to the USB in the new TC) if I connect the TC to AppleTV using an ethernet cable?
The speed will be limited by the slowest link in your network chain. A wired network is always preferable, since it cannot be affected by interference or obstructions.
If you are streaming movies from the Internet, your wireless link will probably be the limiting factor.

AirPort Extreme + AirPort Express ≠ bridge to server

Here's the dilemma: my office recently purchased a multifunction Toshiba printer, which must be accessed wirelessly to print, scan, etc. This is accomplished via a server (aka the "Fiery").
Our LAN centers on an AirPort Extreme (802.11a/n - 802.11b/g/n), which provides our internet access via its ethernet connection to a cable modem. Originally we extended the network via a Cisco Linksys bridge, which recently was rendered useless by a power outage.
Thinking that keeping everything within the Apple family would obviate some of the troubles we had to deal with when using the Cisco bridge, I added an AirPort Express, plugging it directly into the surge suppressor that protects the Fiery and the printer. The Express connects to the Fiery via ethernet.
While both Extreme and Express were showing solid greens in AirPort Utility, and I had set up the Extreme to "create" the network and the Express to "extend" it, I still cannot connect to the printer from my Mac—the whole point of this exercise. Any thoughts? Thanks!

Hello Vernassoc. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
If your goal is to provide Ethernet connectivity to the printer using the 802.11n AirPort Express Base Station (AXn), you don't necessarily need to configure both base stations for an extended wireless network.
Instead, you can configure the AXn as a ProxySTA. (Apple's term of a wireless Ethernet bridge.) As a ProxySTA, the AXn would "join" the wireless network created by the 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn) and have its Ethernet port enabled for wired clients.
To activate ProxySTA, you must set up the Express to join a wireless network and then enable the Allow Ethernet Clients setting; both settings are located in the Wireless tab of AirPort Utility. The feature should work with any wireless network: a, b, g, or n; and 5GHz or 2.4GHz. (Note that the Express, which ships with firmware 7.3, must also be updated to firmware 7.3.1 for this feature to appear.)

Brand new user of Extreme and express - surprising speed test results

Dear All,
I had been using a linksys wireless router connected to a 20mps cable connection to send a wifi signal around my home. After a fair bit of research I upgraded to an airport extreme (wanted benefit of the gb ethernet ports and simultaneous dual band which the linksys did not have.)
So airport extreme set up nicely and speed test.net says I have download speeds of 19.23mbps on both my ipad and my macbook pro (2010). Signal does drop off in one part of the house so after a chat with the apple sales guy I also picked up an airport express to use as an extender. Using the excellent advice on this board mostly from Bob Timmons (found on a search) I was able to set express up and place in the part of the house where the signal didn't previosuly reach. It worked. So far so good. But, then an issue.
When the express is plugged in mbps on speed test drops from 19mbps to 4mbps on both the macbook pro and the ipad. Switch of the express reconnect the devices to wifi (I guess now they are focussing on the airport extreme) and speeds return back to the 19mbps!. Why would this be? And is there any way to fix it? The extra range is useful but not at the expense of all that speed.
thanks
Josh

Setup looks correct.
Have you tried some different channel settings to see if another channel might work better?
For 5 GHz, you would want to choose one of the higher numbered channels 149, 153, 159, 161 and make sure that "enable wide channels" is checked in Wireless Options.
For 2.4 GHz the lower numbered channels are usually more crowded, so you might try one of the higher numbered channels for that band, maybe 9, 10, 11.
Apple routers seem to be very sensitive to interference. If you have a cordless phone there, try powering it off for 45-60 minutes and restarting the Extreme and Express to see if that makes any difference.
If you have time, you can scan to see what other networks are working around you with a utility like iStumbler.
If you do this, you may be surprised that "full bars" is not as much signal strength as you might have thought. The "bars" are there pretty much for show. They really don't tell you much about the real signal strength on the network and they don't tell you anything about noise on the network, which can drag down speeds.

Coming over from the dark side.....many questions...Extreme and Express

My 1st apple product was the iPhone so now I believe!
Recently, I purchased an Airport Extreme 802.11n from eBay.
Question #1: Are there two versions of the Airport Extreme 802.11n? How do I know if I have the dual-band version? From the Airport Utility, I can choose the 2.4Ghz or 5Ghz band but not both. I can see that there is a "b/g" compatible mode but what does it mean if I choose the b/g compatible mode? It seems that I have the older 802.11n Airport Extreme model?
I also purchased a used Airport Express b/g model. I thought it was the "n" model because it looks like the "n" model (all white). I have a bad feeling that this does not have the WDS feature. If this is the case, does that mean I can't use this Airport Express to extend the Airport Extreme Base Station?
Can I use bridge mode wireless to extend the wireless signal in my home although I will have two wireless ID's in the home? Basically, with the Extreme and Express that I have now, can I set it up to extend wireless coverage in my home?
My Extreme is currently on 7.3.1 because 7.4.1 is not stable. My Windows pc's disconnects all the time.
My Express is on 6.3.

Hello westladog. Welcome to the Apple Discussions!
Are there two versions of the Airport Extreme 802.11n?
There are actually three "versions." Here they are in "oldest" to "newest" order:
o Non-Gigabit Ethernet (Part No. MA073LL/A)
o Gigabit Ethernet (Part No. MB053LL/A)
o Dual-Band (Part No. MB763LL/A)
Based on your description, you have either the non-Gigabit or Gigabit version.
I can see that there is a "b/g" compatible mode but what does it mean if I choose the b/g compatible mode?
That would mean that your AirPort will support both 802.11n and 802.11b/g wireless clients simultaneously.
I also purchased a used Airport Express b/g model. I thought it was the "n" model because it looks like the "n" model (all white). I have a bad feeling that this does not have the WDS feature.
Both the newer 802.11n or older 802.11b/g versions of the AirPort Express Base Station (AX) support WDS ... so either could be used to extend the wireless range of your 802.11n AirPort Extreme Base Station (AEBSn).
Can I use bridge mode wireless to extend the wireless signal in my home although I will have two wireless ID's in the home?
With a WDS, you will only have one "wireless ID." The AirPorts use the term "Network Name." It is also known as a SSID.
Basically, with the Extreme and Express that I have now, can I set it up to extend wireless coverage in my home?
Yes.

I have a new air port extreme and express.

Both devices are configured and have green light. The express doesnot seem to expand the network. I can stand next to it and get the same two bars as iI get without using only the extreme.

Check your settings as follows:
Open AirPort Utility - select the AirPort Extreme - click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab located just below the row of icons
Make sure that you have a check mark next to "Allow this network to be extended"
Update to save any changes
Open AirPort Utility - select the AirPort Express - click Manual Setup
Click the Wireless tab below the icons....settings should look like this:
Wireless Mode = Extend a wireless network
Wireless Network Name = Same name as the AirPort Extreme network
Check mark next to "Allow wireless clients"
Wireless Security = Same setting as the AirPort Extreme network
Wireless Password = Same password as the AirPort Extreme network
Confirm Password
Update to save settings
Check for proper operation

Airport Extreme WDS

Hi there...
I replaced a dlink wireless dsl router with an Airport Extreme. I had two airport expresses configured as remote base stations in a WDS network with the dlink as main station. All working well and streaming itunes to expresses.
I can't figure out how to replicate this with Extreme. The Extreme is connected to the Internet via Ethernet bridge served by another dsl router.
The Extreme is configured to create a wireless network and extend enabled.
I don't see any WDS option in Extreme. I have configured the Expresses to use WDS with Extreme as main basestation (MAC address).
Ideas?
tm
Tim Morgan

I have combo b/g/n. How do you specify dynamic vs static?
This is what kind of works now (and addresses SNR). Configuration was not helped by poor UI design and documentation!
Airport Extreme
- Network: foobar
- Channel: Manual (n)
- WDS Mode: Main
- WDS Remotes: Express 1 (Airport MAC ID), Express 2 (Airport MAC ID)
- Allow wireless clients disabled*
Airport Express 1
- Network: foobar
- Channel: Manual (n)
- WDS Mode: Relay
- WDS Main: Extreme Airport MAC ID
- WDS Remotes: Express 2 (Airport MAC ID)
- Allow wireless clients enabled*
Airport Express 2
- Network: foobar
- Channel: Manual (n)
- WDS Mode: Remote
- WDS Main: Express 2 (Airport MAC ID)
- Allow wireless clients enabled
*Depending on your environment, you may wish to enable/disable wireless clients to improve signal/noise ratio. Disabling the main base station forces remote clients to connect to the closest access point (Airport Express). Likewise for relay stations. Schematic below shows supply chain
Airport Extreme ))) Airport Express 1 Relay )))
Airport Express 1 Relay ))) Airport Express 2 Remote )))
Airport Express 1 Relay ))) Wireless Client Devices
Airport Express 2 Remote ))) Wireless Client Devices

AirPort Extreme, AirPort Express, and Dish Network

I have an older model AP Extreme and Express. My Extreme is my base station and connected to my USB printer. I use the Express to stream Airtunes downstairs to my stereo and have another profile I use to "create a wireless network" for when I take it on the road. Now I want to create another profile with the Express so I can connect my Dish Network receiver. This will allow me to use the iPhone app to set the DVR to record remotely but I need to connect the receiver to the internet. How do I configure the Express to do this? The Dish receiver has an ethernet jack in the back that I can connect to the Express. My Wii system joins my network wirelessly, but the Dish receiver needs to be connected by ethernet. I am using AirPort Utility 5.5.1.

I too am struggling with this same issue, but I have a current Airport Extreme (square) and a first gen Airport Express. I can't do a WDS because I use WPA2 on the Extreme (booklet says I have to use WEP or none, which I am not going to do). Now, I have no problem purchasing the next gen Airport Express that allows extension of a WPA2 network, but want to make sure that my idea is sound - buxwheat is trying to do what I want to do, but I don't need a new profile. I have a spare D-Link WBR-1310 that I could use, but would rather not.
The AirPort Extreme 802.11n has a configuration option to "extend a wireless network", which will allow you to maintain higher "n" speeds on your network and use WPA2 Personal security. The ethernet port on the AirPort Express is enabled in this type of configuration. If you want to try this, you'll need to also make sure that the option to "allow this network to be extended" is enabled on your AirPort Extreme.
It's always an "iffy" proposition to download big high definition movie files using wireless. With a very good, strong wireless connection, you may be OK, but ethernet...if you have the option...is always a much better choice for this type of application.
If you cannot run an ethernet cable to the DVR, for about the same price as a new AirPort Express, you might want to consider a pair of ethernet powerline adapters. One adapter plugs into an AC socket near your main router and the other plugs into an AC socket near the DVR. The ethernet signal is transmitted over the AC powerline in your home. My opinion...this would provide a faster, stronger and more reliable connection than wireless only.

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