FI-AA: no depreciation in depr. 15 (income tax) in fiscal year when retired

Hello all!
I have a question concerning settings for a FI-AA depreciation key concerning depr. area 15 (income tax; Slovakia):
Calculation of depreciation in depr. area 15 (income tax) must be ZERO in case of retirement during fiscal year (no pro rata until retirement date).
Thanks for an answer.
Bernd

Hi Bernd,
Use a depreciation key with period control 06 At the start of the year for retirements
When you have made depreciations run in old months in the year it will turned back with the retirement posting
Paul

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Z6 year-dependent July - June, 4 special periods 12periods 4special periods
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For Asset Accounting FY Variant assigned to Company Code assignment in FI-AA -
Z7 year-dependent July - June, 4 special periods 24periods 4special periods
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Period Control Method set is Z7/Z7/Z7/Z7
where Z7 is defined in OAVH as (for year 2010, 2011, 2013, 2014-2020):
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Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 1 31 11
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 2 15 13
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 2 28 13
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 3 15 15
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 3 31 15
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 4 15 17
Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 4 30 17
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Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 8 31 3
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Z7 Z7 15th of every month 2010 10 31 7
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No user exits or custom development is in place.
I have checked all the following notes, either they made no changes or were not relevant:
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123026
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Please suggest any possible solution to this issue that we are facing. Thanks!

Please check SPRO transaction AFAMA for the Depreciation Keys:
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Check which is appropriate starting with the above order as I think this will fit your logic. But this depends on whether postings have already been made in the periods you want adjusted. If so then you need to use AFAR and choose repeat run after you have changed your config settings for the periods already posted. Additionally you may have problems if you have rolled forward your Fiscal Year in Assets and you will/may need to roll it back if possible before running AFAR etc.
SAP normally calculates depreciation for straight line by taking the number of periods in a year and dividing total depreciation for that year by the periods and posting that figure for the month. If you set Depr to day then it will take into account different months day length etc.
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you said that your present fiscal year is 2007? is it FI Fiscal Year or Asset Fiscal Year?
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