File Sharing on a mixed Tiger-Leopard network

I have a LAN with two machines, a PPC with 10.4.11 and a new Laptop with 10.5.1. If I turn on file sharing on the Tiger machine, I can see and access it from Leopard. But if I turn on file sharing on the Laptop, I can find the laptop as a server when I browse from the Tiger machine, but cannot connect to it. So essentially I have one way file sharing.
The network is a new Apple Airport Extreme and the problem exists whether I have the laptop connected wirelessly or through a hard ethernet port, so I don't think it is the LAN.
A tech support call to Apple resulted in a transfer from the first technician to a product support unit ("... this may be an emerging Leopard issue") and a 2 hour hold before the call was dropped. Worst customer support I have had from Apple-- and I have been a customer since a Mac Plus and system 3.2...
Anyone successfully mount a shared volume on a Leopard machine using another running Tiger?

Finally figured this out. It has to do with the changes in how Leopard implements a Firewall. The firewall settings in Leopard have been moved from the "Sharing" panel to "Security".
The solution for me was to go to the Leopard machine System Prefs and turn on file sharing. (Note that "Screen Sharing" only works between two Leopard systems) Add whatever folders you want shared; the default is to share only the "Public" folder. I also changed the users to "read & write"; the default is "read only" after highlighting the folders I wanted write privileges on. You have to do this folder by folder. If you want file sharing using anything but the Apple File Protocol (AFP), you have to set it under "options".
Now go to the "Security" Panel and click "Firewall". The Leopard Firewall set to "Allow only essential services" blocks file sharing. Set it to "Set access for specific services and applications". You should see "File Sharing (AFP)" in the window.
The Leopard system can now be found by browsing servers from other machines on the network.

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I have two Snow Leopard Macs (10.6.5) and One Tiger (10.4.11) Mac all connected by cable to a router, each with a static IP address. When I have the Internet connection plugged into the WAN port of my router and modem turned on, file sharing works fine from any Mac to any other.
But if I have the Internet turned off and start up the computers, I cannot connect to a Snow Leopard machine to access the hard drive from either a Tiger machine or the other Snow Leopard machine. When I choose connect to Server in finder, and put in the IP address of a Snow Leopard Mac, it just times out, like that Mac don't exist on the network. I remain able to connect to the Tiger machine to access its hard drive via file sharing.
Why does Snow Leopard seem to need an Internet connection in order to be reached for file sharing on the LAN?
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I finally got to the bottom of the file sharing issue. I had the Snow leopard machines' network preference setting "Configure IPv4" set to "Manually". I had entered the IP address, router, subnet, and DNS server for each machine. DNS server was set to be the router, as I have my preferred DNS servers configured in the router. If I change Configure IPv4 to "Using DHCP with Manual Address" and remove the DNS server from Network preferences, causing it to be obtained from the router, this fixed the issue. (The DNS server still shows as the router's address, but it is now supplied by DHCP.)
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tibbs01 wrote:
I have a Mac Pro, Snow Leopard 10.6.4 and experience a similar problem - Windows clients, XP Vista and 7 alike can not access the server, This was all fine before going to Snow Leopard.
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There are so many post all over the internet about SMB and Snow Leopard having problems, Is Apple aware of this , has anyone heard back from them about fixing this ?
Apparently there's a major problem in Snow Leopard using a version of Samba that is not compatible with Windows 7. I think there are workarounds - a search on Google should help.
However, the original poster was complaining of a problem with AFP, which is what I'm having a problem with as well. If anybody has the solution ...

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I used to connect through XP via a mapped network drive, but my connection keeps dropping. Not so good when I'm working on a file in xp that resides on my mac. This wasn't the ideal solution anyways.
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Andre Tenenbaum

I too am having this exact problem as well as a few of my network administrator contacts that have gone through the Mavericks / Server 3 upgrade.
It may be worth noting that before the upgrade I had run a mac mini server (core 2 duo) that never had any unintentional downtime, and the current mac server had never gone down or lost connection so I know it has nothing to do with user or network configuration.
NAS server hardware:
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I am NOT running time machine as the backup.
Everyting posted above is occuring although the rate at which my users lose acces is sporadic. Sometimes the server will stay up 24-36 hours and sometimes it will only stay up for around 4. Every user, every group loses acces AT THE EXACT SAME TIME EVERYTIME to EVERY SHAREPOINT...all of my local users as well as my remote users. All of my users are on Windows machines (mostly win7, but a couple of XP and 8 users as well). The share is accessed via a mapped drive using the format x.x.x.x/share and I have had 0 issues with getting users connected. The problem is 100% keeping them connected. When the users lose access the get the "drive cannot be accessed" error on their end, however when I check the server 3 app, it still shows all users connected and I have let it run for a few minutes and the idle times do change.
I also cannot see any spikes in the Activity monitor that might indicate a memory strain issue on the server side, but I assume that is because I am not watching the Activity Monitor at the moment everyone loses access.
Let me say that the SMB2 protocol does work much better when it actually works, much faster, but intermitent connectivity is a VERY SERIOUS ISSUE and has resulted in several corrupt files for my workers already. Also, because I was one of the unfortunate people that had the upgrade lock up on me and I had to restart it, I lost my 10.8.x recover backup and so I would have to do a clean install in order to restore my server back to its original state. I am also hesitant to do this because I would most likely only be able to download the Server3 app from the app store and I have not heard from apple or any other power user group on whether the bug is with the app or the OS.

Can File Sharing be accessed on an external network?

ive enabled file share on my Mac Pro so that i can access it on my macbook pro. these two are on my time capsule network.
in the settings, for the macbook pro it says read and write, and for Everyone it says read only.
my question is: for Everyone, is this only people on my network or can people outside my network access my computer files too?

No, other people on the internet don't have access to your machine because Everyone is set to Read. Only people you give access to your Mac via sharing have access.
Everyone is really the Unix Posix 'others' which is users or processes that neither own the file nor are in same group as the file. In the normal sense of the word, a user must have a login to the machine to have access to anything. There are many users on your Mac that are not human. They are all the processes that actually do most of the stuff that goes on in the background. If you deny them access, your Mac will stop working.

Blocking access to file sharing (AFP/SMB) from outside of network

Hello all,
Is there a way to block access to file shares from outside of our LAN? I have a machine that has some sharing turned on (it is also my email server) and I can reach it across the internet and mount shares as if I was in the office.
How can I block this access? Both SMB and AFP?
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Justin, thank you for your reply. The machine is on a public ip address and is not behind a NAT router. I've turned on the software firewall and that is working now. However, I imagine it would be better to use a hardware firewall. Any suggestions on a good one? Thank you.

File sharing works only after performing a network ping

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I have a similar setup I believe...
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When you try the connection, are you using an alias on the iBook or using the connect to Server command? If you're using an alias, try the connect route and browse the network.
Also, are both systems in the same Windows "Workgroup". "Directory Access" in the Utilities folder is the Mac app that allows you to configure a Workgroup setting for Windows related communications.

Sharing Files between Mac's in the same Network

ok, I have a Mac Pro and my sister has an iMac
I know how to share files but I get annoyed by this:
1)I only want to share my "Public Folder" but instead, it not only shares my Public folder but also my "Macintosh HD and System" Folder. And I cant find a way to hide this folders. It does it by default how can I fix this.
The same thing happens for both Mac's not only the Public folder gets share but the system and Macintosh HD as well.
*This has nothing to be with 10.5.4 update... since i was trying to figure this out long time ago...
2) I have a laptop computer running Vista, when i had 10.5.1 I was able to see the PC monitor in my finder window to share my files, after 10.5.2 came out, every time I turn on my laptop , the icon does not show up on my Mac. And i hate going to "finder/go/connect to server" option
Do you guys have the same problems??

I know what you mean, I am having the same problem. I think I figured out why this is happening though.
This is what happens when you turn on "file sharing":
"Users you have set up with accounts in Accounts preferences can access your computer by connecting to it over the network. *A user with an administrator account can access your entire computer.*"
I am assuming that your sister has an admin account on her iMac, which automatically gives her full access to your hard drive.
Does anyone know how to restrict file sharing, even for administrators in the network?

Is there a way to force a file sharing user to log out?

I have a problem: I've got a few more Macs in my office that need to connect to my computer from time to time via file sharing than OS X Snow Leopard wants to allow. I know Apple wants me to use OS X Server but I don't want to lose the simplicity of my normal workflow. Part of the problem is that users are not logged out unless they manually close the file share, which means that, say, a laptop that's asleep will still be taking up one "file sharing user slow" even though it's not needed. I can see who is logged in via the command
set theUsers to do shell script "netstat -na | awk '/.548/ {print $5}'"
but want I need to know is, is there any way to force, say, user 192.168.1.8.50244 off of my file share without stopping and restarting file sharing, which logs everyone out (and breaks some of my scripts on other computers.
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You could start with this hint and go from there...
[Command Line Kung Fu #63|http://blog.commandlinekungfu.com/2009/10/episode-63-death-to-users.html]

Personal File Sharing question

Hi,
I have a question about personal file sharing between my iMac Intel (my work computer) and an eMac (student work computer). I work at a college, and our regular back-up system on campus is just not worthwhile, so as a secondary back-up, I created a new account on the eMac (the student computer). I have already successfully accessed the regular student account via personal file sharing (it shows up on the network under the office name given to the computer), but is there a way that I can also connect directly into my new account on the eMac? Is there something that I need to do to make the separate accounts visible?
Thanks,
Ken

I'll try to access this from a Windows PC from the internet first (then try with ubuntu)
That requires much more work, like finding Outside IP, Port Forwarding, etc., try it locally first.
1) System Preferences>Sharing>Services tab>Windows Sharing.
2) Browser won't get you to File Sharing, that would be for System Preferences>Sharing>Services tab>Personal Web Sharing.
3) By default the Shared folder is shared, but you can log in as the Mac's User & see all that the Mac User can, or Sharepoints for smb...
http://lowendmac.com/mac2win/04/0623.html
Get Sharepoints...
http://www.hornware.com/sharepoints/
And setup what you wish to share with whom.

Personal File Sharing failure between Leopard MBP and Tiger iMac

Hi,
I am attempting to give the iMac access to files on the Leopard using Personal File Sharing. Personal File Sharing is turned on on the MBP. The firewall on the MBP has been variously set for Essential Services Only and turned off. The firewall on the iMac is off (it has no internet connection). I have tried both encrypted and unencrypted ad-hoc wireless networking on various channels. I have tried ethernet. The results are always the same:
1) the MBP will appear in the Network folder of the iMac, but any attempt to connect fails. I am unable even to reach a Drop Box.
2) the iMac appears in the Shared section of the Sidebar on the MBP, and connections of all kind work without problems
I have no internet connection in the house and am unable to try connecting both Macs to the same WiFi network for testing purposes. I have tried pinging each machine from the other using Network Utility, with failure reported in every case ---however, I'm led to believe this is not unusual in small network circumstances.
One other piece of info that may be relevant: I am also struggling to have my iPod touch found by my MBP when attempting to use the WebDAV protocol to share files with Files Lite. My iMac connects to Files Lite without issue. Stanza Desktop also refuses to find Stanza. Cyberduck will find Files Lite on the network from the MBP (the only app to recognise it in any way from my MBP), but will consistently fail to connect. Perhaps this is related?
Any help would be welcome. I can provide more information as needed. I have only offered the information I thought would be useful, and that fits within my layman's understanding of networking.
Thanks.
S.

Hi,
Well, it's all working fine now. Seems I /hadn't/ tried turning off the firewall on the MBP. The PFS now works with the firewall off or with "Set access for specific services and applications", but not "Essential services only".
*shrugs* I was so sure I'd tried it with the firewall off…
So, thanks! All is now kushti. I may have to grumble to myself a little (and ultimately to Apple) about the lack of co-operation between the firewall and the Sharing prefs, and what I perceive as a poverty (or at least poor layout) of information in the firewall settings pane, though. I mean, why can't the firewall automatically choose the correct setting depending on the Sharing preferences? Or, at least, provide a pop-up that such a change is necessary? Hmm…
Ta!
S.
PS: FYI, "guest" sharing was already enabled, presumably by default.

File sharing across a network --- Mac (Leopard) and PCs (Vista) -- problems

Been trying to setup file sharing so that I can access an iMac from a Vista PC. Followed various help threads, and have a specific question as relates to setting the file sharing preferences. From system preferences/sharing, have checked "File Sharing", and the shared folders displayed are the default public ones for the two users of the iMac. That is what I want. I next click on the options button in the same sharing window, where "Share files and folders using AFP" is already turned on (checked). From the data I have read, I next try to set up sharing using SMB, checking on that option (cause I think I must do that - from what I've read).
This is where I run into problems. If I just check for share files and folders using SMB, and don't check off on the individual user accounts, when I try to access the iMac from the Vista PC, I get a login dialog box when I click on the iMac in my network screen. Not sure what to do with that ... _as I only want guest access to the public folders on the iMac_. If, however, in setting up SMB I check on the individual user accounts (and provide the requested passwords), then when I access the iMac from the Vista PC, I don't have to login to the iMac at all .... but all folders/all iMac hard drive data is now available/editable to me. This is not what I want. Only want network access to the iMac public folders. But as I noted earlier, if I set up SMB without checking off on the user account names, then I am presented with a login box when I click on the iMac icon on the Vista PC.
Have read numerous articles on this ... and think I am close. So ... bottom line ... want iMac access from Vista PCs but only want access to the iMac public folders. Don't want access to the entire iMac hard drive.
Any thoughts/suggestions? Thanks.

Some additional insight to share. Some successes, but still some questions.
Was reading around the web on this topic and found something that indicated that I should create a new, non-admin account on the iMac and make that the user that is shared. The other two users that I was attempting to share the public folder were both admin users, and this may account for showing all of the hard drive when I accessed the iMac from the Vista PC.
So I created this new "standard" user account, and share that public folder, and it all works. Now here is the still questionable. From one vista PC, when I click on the iMac I get a login prompt. At that point I can log into the iMac or just access the iMac via guest access. Both work.
But from a different Vista PC, clicking on the iMac does not prompt a login shell to appear. I just walk into the iMac shared folder. Do not understand this behavior. Would've expected that any Vista or windows PC would get a login shell when trying to access the iMac. That is not the case. Any thoughts why the 2 Vista PCs behave differently?

Windows file sharing can no longer work after tiger upgrade

hi guys, ive been searching the web to find a cure on my problem for a long time now, but still no success, hope someone could help me out.
ok heres my problem, before the upgrade, file sharing with windows is perfect, with no problems at all, but when i upgraded one of our mac to tiger, windows file sharing is not working anymore, i cant connect or see my windows xp computer on the network and vice versa, windows cannot see my mac with tiger on the network.
Our other 2 macs here running in panther are fine( meaning, windows file sharing is working)
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