Follow-Up material items in MRP4 View

Hi All,
In MRP4 view, in discontinued part, if we set follow-up material, MRP will trigger requests for the follow –up material if the stock of existing material is zero.
Now there is a requirement, so that even though follow-up material is updated, system should be trigger any requirement for the existing one, though the stock is zero, ie, the follow up material is only for an information .
Is it possible ? can we do it with changing the effectively of date in eff.out (set it as future unlimited)
Thanks for the help.
Regards,
Vijesh

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http://help.sap.com/erp2005_ehp_04/helpdata/EN/b1/c044d1439a11d189410000e829fbbd/frameset.htm
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[Kindly check this link |http://help.sap.com/saphelp_47x200/helpdata/en/a0/1016bd4c8311d189520000e829fbbd/frameset.htm] which has information of the below.
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Dear Experts,
 How to ensure discontinuation / follow-up is implemented on FULL BOM's
 component qty, and not partial.
 Example : A requires 3B, and B is follow-up with C upon discontinuation.
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 Material B (say, balance 1 qty) is received into Store Y (MRP Relevant). Thus to exclude material B from MRP, we have to manually transfer stock to store X (Not MRP Relevant).
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Dear all,
 Manage to solve the problem via Note 1008643, per following.
 THANK YOU for all your guidance & Have a nice day !
NOTE 1008643 :Symptom
In a production order error message CKBK-009 is raised during cost calculation.
This message cannot be modified into a warning or information message.
Other terms
CKBK009, CO01, CO02, CO03
Reason and Prerequisites
System design
Solution
Please make a new entry in TA OPR8 with the following characteristics:
ErrorManagID ApplicationArea MsgNo MinMsgType MaxMsgType
PPCO CKBK 009
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