Footnote - separator

I'm using footnotes for the first time in Indesign CS2 and have encountered a problem.
Footnotes can be separated from the body text by a separator. However, the distances between the body text and the separator and the separator and the first footnote are rather small, causing an ugly layout. Can these distances be defined (ie set to a fixed value)?
Many thanks in advance!

No, the distance cannot be set to a fixed distance. The actual distance depends on a lot of variables -- such as the leading of the regular text on the page above it and the leading and number of lines of the footnote text itself.
But if you find this distance is often too small, check what it says in the Document Footnote Options. Chances are, if you never heard of this dialog before, this distance is still at its default value of 0 mm.
See the Help: http://help.adobe.com/en_US/indesign/cs/using/WSa285fff53dea4f8617383751001ea8cb3f-6f37a.h tml for a full description of the options.

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