Form translation to Japanese - baseline shift

Dear All,
I have a big problem with interactive forms. I developed a PO form for a Japanese company in English. When I transate it and use Kanji characters in the translation the baseline of these characters is about one line below where they should be. I use Arial fonts at the form development and the ADS changes it to MS Mincho or MSP Gothic. These two character set was also installed to the ADS font directory. Is it possible to use one form for the English and Japanese version of the form or I have to develop another form to the Japanese form and set the baseline of all the characters? Does anybody have experience in this issue? Has anybody developed PDF-based form in Japanese language?
BR,
Peter

Hi Peter,
I faced exactly the same while adapting the standard PO-form.
Here's the solution:
If you copied the standard PO-form you'll probably find the following tag in your form's XML:
<?originalXFAVersion http://www.xfa.org/schema/xfa-template/2.1/?>
You should replace it by
<?originalXFAVersion http://www.xfa.org/schema/xfa-template/2.2/?>
Alternatively you can also check the compytibility settings in Lifecycle designer:
Menu "Edit/Form properties" switch to tab Compatibility:
Update textformatting and event model to the recommended version using the two buttons there.
This should actually do the job.
regards

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BR,
Peter
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