FPS - mix in timeline?

Hello,
Please help. I have half my footage shot on C100 at 23.98 fps and the other half on Canon 5D mark 2 at 25 fps. I have converted both footage to pro res to edit in FCP 7. I have only just realsied the differnt frame rates is this going to cause me lots of issues?
Many thanks!!

What is your final deliverable frame rate? Current sequence settings?
Have you begun editing with footage?
I would use Cinema tools to convert the C100 or 5D to the other frame rate. This will change the frame rate of everything so if you need to keep the source rate footage for something else I would duplicate the folder before starting. It will only take about 1 minute to do this once everything is set up because you are only changing the meta data associated with the file. If you did this in Compressor it would be like re-encoding everything.
If you already have an edited sequence I would reconnect to the new frame rate footage and then confirm that all of the source footage in your project is the same rate.
While I have edited with mixed frame rates in FC I prefer to have Compressor or Cinema tools do the frame rate conversion before I start editing. This can eliminate many variables that usually pop up when I have a deadline and something is needed right now.

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Hi,
Since a long time I did not encounter the crash of Media encoder with
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I guessed to leave Adobe but this company remains the last with a
serious authoring software (Encore CS 6).
I tested :
- Avid Media Composer, Final Cut Pro X, both are very good software but
no really authoring software for these video editing softs.
Th only way is to "flood" Adobe with "bug reports" and "wish forms"
which are not very easy to use.
And also to call the Adobe support day by day until they send they
escalate the bug.
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