Frame Rate - Is this info correct?

If I have a 25 fps movie and I want to make an SD NTSC dvd I can drop it into encore and it will convert it to 29.97 so it will play in a region 1 dvd player automatically. However if I want to make a NTSC blue ray then I will need to have a region free blue ray player in order to play it because it will keep it at 25 unless I take it into another program to convert it to 24 or 29.97. Is all is this info correct? Thank you

It doesn't affect the original media.

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If I "modify" a clips frame rate is this a permanent alteration, as in Apple Cinema Tool?

I have some footage shot at 59.97 FPS and need to interpret the frame rate at 23.98. If I do this via the "modify, interpret footage" menu options, will this permanently alter the clip? In Apple Cinema Tools, it permanently alters the footage.
Thanks!
Ed

It doesn't affect the original media.

Variable Frame Rate on H.264 output

I am using AE CS6 (cloud version). I am trying to render compositions to 1080p mp4. Each time the comp appears to render fine. But bringing it into my NLE crashes my NLE. I brought the media into MediaInfo (app from SourceForge that shows everything about a media clip). It says that the Frame Rate is VARIABLE Min: 60fps; Max 60.6 fps. The composition was 80 fps, and I told the renderer to keep it at 80. MediaInfo also said the duration was over 6 seconds. The composition was a little over 4 seconds. So the overall speed of the comp was incorrect. I've been in the video business for about 10 years. I understand frame rates, etc. Never heard of VARIABLE frame rates until this.
I was able to launder the media file through a freeware media format converter, and got it back into constant frame rate so I could proceed in the NLE with the project. But the time was still 6 seconds. So I had to speed up the clip in the NLE to get it back correct.
Since moving to CS6 from CS4, I decided to start using the H.264 output module. So I've just started encountering this variable frame rate problem.
So my questions... What is variable frame rate, how did I 'request' it, why is even the variable frame rate no where near the comp frame rate, and what do I do to simply get an mp4 with the 80fps that I want?
This is very reproducible for me. My comps are usually either HDTV 1920x1080 or HDV 1440x1080.
Add to Render Queue
Select DV Settings, change field order to none
Select H.264 output module
Render
Can someone explain what's going on?
Thanks.
Jerry

Where did you get that footage and what format was it originally shot in? Was it shot in slow motion or did you change the frame rate in AE? Why would you need 80fps footage unless you're going to slow it down to a normal frame rate?
Also, h.264 is not only a very lossy format, it's also a bad intermediate format. So if you're planning on editting that footage later on in an NLE, I'd suggest rendering it to something else. Premiere should work fine with h.264, but not FCP, although I think they fixed it in FCPX, but you didn't say what NLE you're using.
Second of all, the H.264 encoder is much better in Adobe Media Encoder. Check this post by Andrew Yoole:
3.Andrew Yoole,
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As the other guys have said, don't use AE to render using temporal codecs. Temporal codecs like H264 rely on storing partial frames based on earlier information. AE renders and encodes one frame at a time, so most of the efficiency of a codec like H264 is lost. The result is that you get much lower overall quality from an AE h.264 render than if you were to encode it externally.
Adobe Media Encoder or Quicktime 7 will encode great quality H.264 files.
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As I said I'm not sure why you would need to take an 80fps piece of footage back into an NLE, but if you're trying to make that footage play back in slow motion, you're going to have to re-interpret the frame rate of the footage in After Effects to play back at standard rate. And, if you're going to use the AE Render Queue to output something for more editing, I would suggest using best settings and outputting to a production codec such as a ProRes, Animation, Uncompressed 10bit, Uncompressed 8bit or Black Magic.
Also I've never used that media info app before, but I know that when you open up quicktime and hit command I on the mac to view the inspector, the playing fps jumps around. I think this happens because the player doesn't necessarily play back the correct frame rate at all times.
This Adobe Captivate blog talks about variable frame rates in F4V files. Maybe it might help explain things.
http://blogs.adobe.com/captivate/2010/11/f4v-or-f4v-fixed-frame-rate-what-should-i-go-with .html

Help with sequence settings in final cut for project with 2 different frame rates.

I really need help with this one! I finished editing a wedding video and realized after exporting that it was filmed in two different frame rates. This has happened before but I converted the footage to match and fixed the problem. In this case, the footage is part 30fps and part 60fps. The majority of it was filmed in 30fps. I cannot convert the 60 to 30 without the slow motion effect which I do not need so I have to find a way to burn this to a DVD without it looking messed up! The video was shot with two Canon 7ds if that helps anything. The first sequence I set at 29.97 and exported as a quicktime movie and all the footage filmed in 60 looked perfect and the footage in 30 looked jittery. Then I tried the sequence at 59.97 and it switched. The footage filmed at 30 looked good and the 60 was cropped in. I am so confused! Any advice or suggestions would be greatly appreciated!!

Thanks for your help Michael! The frame rates are 29.97 1920 x 1080 and 59.94 1280 x 720. I did a control click on the clips in final cut and viewed the item properties/format to find this info. The Canon 7d is a DSLR but we use it for video. As for my workflow, the first thing I do is import the footage onto my computer and then drag the clips into mpeg streamclip. I choose apple prores 422 and uncheck the interlaced box. Once this is done I import the .mov files into final cut. The sequence automatically sets itself to whatever clip I drag in first so it originally set as 29.97. When I finished editing wedding video, I export it to a quicktime movie and choose whatever settings match the sequence, in this case apple prores 422 1920 x 1080 30p. Once that is done I use iDVD to burn the discs.
I knew something was wrong when I watched the quicktime movie and all the 30fps footage was jittery and most of the cross dissolves looked strange. That's when I figured out the footage was at two different frame rates. What I don't understand is why whatever the sequence is set at in final cut, the clips of the opposite frame rate look right but the clips set at the matching frame rate don't???

Progressive frame rate

This is my first foray into HD, so my apology for this rudimentary question.
How can I tell if an HD footage is progressive or interlaced?
I have 30min worth of HDCAM. The post house that did the transfer told me that they're 1080p25 (I have no reason to doubt them). I'm just curious if there's any way I can double-check to make sure that they're 25p and not 25i.
I imported a sample clip into FCP and looked under 'Item Properties'. I only saw the following data but no mentioning of whether it's progressive or interlaced:
Vid Rate: 25fps
Frame Size: 1920 x 1080
Compressor: Uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2
Pixel Aspect: Square
Field Dominance: Upper (Odd)
By the way, does progressive video have a field dominance?
Thanks,
td

Thanks for the detailed answer. I'm based in Vietnam and none of the local post houses have much experience in doing progressive HD since most of their work is for TVCs. I had to go to Bangkok to do the full-grade transfer (from 35mm) to HDCAM and conform in FCP. I specifically asked for 25P frame rate because this will finish in film. I wonder if they messed up (I hope that's not the case).
I just need to clarify a few things.
The reason my question came up was because as I understand it, progressive video should have no field dominance. Is this correct?
All these footages have Upper field dominance. Is this a definite indication that they're interlaced? Are there any type of HD that has an Upper field dominance?
I did a few test and got mixed result. But I'm not sure if this is because my system is not set up to do anything more than DV, and I don't have a 1080p25 Codec in my system. These are the tests I did:
Since the post house has a more recent version of FCP than I do, they gave me an XML file of the conformed project. I imported the XML, with the 'Override with setting from XML' box checked. Everything is red on the timeline, even after I changed all the timeline's settings to match the footages' settings.
However, when I create a new project, set the Sequence Settings to 1920x1080, Square pixel, Upper Field Dominance, Compressor as Uncompressed 8-bit 4:2:2. Import a clip directly into the FCP project and place it on this time line. It's gray.
I created a new timeline with same setting, except for Field Dominance set to NONE, the clip is still gray when placed on the timeline.
On the other hand, when I looked at one of the footages at full-size, frame by frame, on my Cinema display (I don't have an HD broadcast monitor), the edges look pretty sharp. For ex. I have a shot of a swish pan following a car speeding across the screen. There are some horizontal streaks in the background, but these look like motion blurs rather than interlaced artifacts. The edge of the car is sharp, with no jaggy. This seems to indicate that it's progressive.
My big worry is that the post house did the transfer (to tape) at 25P, but captured at 50i or 25i by mistake. Then again, if the Codec on the footages says Uncompressed 8-bit, then the captured footages should be the same as what's on the master tape, shouldn't it?
I'm thoroughly confused at this point. Anything that helps to shed light on this would be greatly appreciated.
I apologize for the lengthy note, but I figured it may help to give some backgrounds on the project. I need to get this sorted out before going online. This could be a very costly fix, especially since I'm paying for this film out of my own pocket. But at least if I catch it on time, I can minimize the damage.
Thanks again.
td

Why did frame rate of video shot on iphone 5 change from 30 fps to 24 fps?

Why did frame rate of video shot on iphone 5 change from 30 fps to 24 fps?

My understanding (which could be wrong) is that the iPhone shoots video with a variable frame rate. This is likely so it can optimize video for FaceTime. So uncomplicated scenes can be shot with a lower framerate, and active scenes will be shot with a higher framerate.

Frame rate = One picture in 5 seconds?

Hi, I am capturing video from a web cam in rgb. I want to send only one picture in five seconds across the network (Frame Rate = 0,2). This does not seem to work. My code:
          Object frameRate = processor.getControl("javax.media.control.FrameRateControl");
          if(frameRate != null)
Logger.getInstanceOf().writeLog(Constants.LOG_INFO, this.getClass(), "createProcessor()", "Current frame rate is: " + String.valueOf(((FrameRateControl) frameRate).getFrameRate()) + " frames per second ...");
          FrameRateControl frc = (FrameRateControl) frameRate;
          frc.setFrameRate(0.2f);
Logger.getInstanceOf().writeLog(Constants.LOG_INFO, this.getClass(), "createProcessor()", "New frame rate is: " + String.valueOf(((FrameRateControl) frameRate).getFrameRate())+ " frames per second ...");
It seems as if I can only reduce the Frame Rate to 5. I am using a H263 video format. Does anybody know how to further reduce the frame rate?
Regards, Nik

Hi, I found the answer myself.
When you capture with RGB in Frame Rate 15 and 320x240 Dimensions and you want to transmit using H263, you can only reduce the Frame Rate to 5 FPS. I do this using the code above on a realized player. When you want to further reduce the frame rate you need to create a second processor taking the H263 Stream with 5 FPS as input. Using the code above on the second realized processor enables you to further reduce the Frame Rate.
This worked for me.
I also used the following code WITH NO SUCCESS:
     Format checkForVideoSizes(Format original, Format supported) {
          int width, height;
          Dimension size = ((VideoFormat) original).getSize();
          Format jpegFmt = new Format(VideoFormat.JPEG_RTP);
          Format h263Fmt = new Format(VideoFormat.H263_RTP);
          return (new VideoFormat(VideoFormat.H263_RTP, new Dimension(width, height),
                    Format.NOT_SPECIFIED, null, Format.NOT_SPECIFIED))
                    .intersects(supported);
Anyway ... the problem is solved.
Regards, Nik

Best frame rates for 4 different cameras in multicam

Well, I've been flopping around in different threads on this forum, but I think the question is beginning to finally take shape for me. Basically it's all about deciding on frame rates for four different cameras I will be using to shoot a 6-day intensive course I will be teaching. The video will be primarily for computer viewing (YouTube, Quicktime movies). Here are the cameras:
2 new Canon cameras capable of frame rates of 60i, 30 frames per second progressive "recorded as 60i", and 24 frames per second progressive also "recorded as 60i" (there is a known issue with importing the 30 frames per second into fcpx, as fcpx does not recognize this as progressive, but ClipWrap can get around this).
1 Sony capable of 60i, 60P, and 24P
1 Sanyo capable of 60i and 30P
Possible settings:
Just do all at 60i, but people say this is not so good for computer viewing
Canon at 30 fps (using ClipWrap to see it gets recognized as progressive), and the Sony and Sanyo at 60i. Will this cause syncing or other problems, mixing frame rates like this? How bad a hit in quality is 60i on computer screens?
Canon and Sanyo at 30 fps, Sony at 60i
Same as #3, but use JES Deinterlacer to get Sony 60i to 30 fps.(I tried this out, by the way, and the resulting frame rate, after deinterlacing, showed up in the inspector window at 30, not 29.97. Is that a problem?
Anyway, I aplogogize for wearing out my welcome on this forum, and I thank everyone for creating such a wonderful bank of information.

Not sure what you're trying to achieve here - for the best overall quality, if possible, choose a frame rate that all the cameras can achieve. That way you won't lose quality in the conversion.
If you're not satisfied with that, you need to do some tests to see which gives you the effect you like best. Nobody here can help you really - it's up to you.
Andy

What is frame rate with 1920x1080/60p?

I'm currently shooting and editing HD 1920x1080/60i (interlaced format, 29.97 frames/sec). To reduce motion artifacts, I'm considering a change in my workflow to HD 1920x1080/60p (progressive format), but first I must update my understanding of this newer format. Question 1: What is the frame rate for this format, 30 or 60 frames/sec? If the answer is 30 frames/sec, why is it called 60p? Question 2: How many complete scans (combining odd and even lines) are produced per frame? Question 3: Would a Master File exported from Final Cut Pro X (by default, a QuickTime movie file) be progressive or interlaced? Question 4: Would iDVD v.08 accept a progressive movie file for making standard DVDs?
Your answers to these questions are very much appreciated.

Thank you, Tom Wolsky and Karsten Schlüter, for your fast replies!
Tom, regarding my Question 4: Are you sure that the latest version of iDVD can accept progressive 1920x1080 QuickTime movie files at 59.94 frames/sec? As you may know, iDVD is no longer supported by Apple, and their Technical Support is unable to answer my question. I respect your experience in this area and would like you to advise me in my proposed switch to a progressive workflow. I can't afford to shoot in a format that will not allow me to make standard DVDs.
Best regards from Interlacer.

Mixing frame rates

Hi all. I will be doing a 3 or 4 camera project soon. I have two Canon tapeless AVCHD cameras, a Vixia HFM43 and an HFG10. I'm going to borrow two more cameras but don't know what kind they are yet. I was thinking of shooting the HFM43 in Canon's FXP mode with a 30 frame rate, and the HFG10 also in FXP mode but with a true 24 fps progressive, a frame rate that the other Canon is not capable of. I wanted the better frame rate because I am sometimes going to crop and zoom in on parts of the video taken with that camera, and the higher quality video it takes seems to make this possible without making the video too grainy. I have since googled a bit on mixing frame rates like this in one project, and people generally warn against it. Is this true? Is it better to stick to one frame rate?

Calm down, calm down . . . everything is OK.
Canon's 60i and 30p are both the same frame rate . . . 30fps. (Ignore the 29.97 as it is the daft American system and can be regarded as 30fps)
It's just that the 60i has 2 interlaced fields (don't worry about it!) per frame whereas 30p has 2 identical fields (equivalent to one field) per frame.
If you are interested you can read about interlaced and progressive frames in Wikipedia!
Suffice it to reiterate, they are both 30fps.
It would make sense in future to have all cameras set to the same although it shouldn't make any difference.
NOTE: Over the past few years a number of cameras have included a "60p" setting (note the "p").
This is 60fps and shouldn't be mixed with 60i or 30p

Setting jmf bit rate/ frame rate

Hi!!
I'm with some problems configuring my video settings.
Where should I go to set the frame rate od my video streaming?
I'm using H263 format, and the frame rate is variable and I want to set it for a lower value so that my video streaming can be more "fluid".
Should I go to Control Panel of the Windows and change there at Multimedia codecs?
Regards from Portugal

Here You have sample how to specify frame rate (in this exampke - 10f). I use here data from video caprure and create processor with ProcessorModel. Then I send it by network (RAW_RTP - in this dimentions it id H263)
VideoFormat vf = null;
Dimension size = new Dimension(176, 144);
vf = new VideoFormat("RGB", size, Format.NOT_SPECIFIED, null, 10f);
Format [] formats = new Format[] { vf };
ContentDescriptor cd = new ContentDescriptor(ContentDescriptor.RAW_RTP);
ProcessorModel proc_mod = new ProcessorModel(dsCapt, formats, cd);
dsCapt is DataSource from my capture device.
for details look: JVidCap file from : http://java.sun.com/products/java-media/jmf/2.1.1/solutions/JVidCap.html

Im having problems importing prores files at correct frame rate

im having problems importing prores files at correct frame rate. they have been converted to prores at 25fps but on importing they appear in fcp as 30fps. any help would be appreciated.

I don't know anything about Wondershare. But it seems something may have got messed up in the conversion. Or maybe there is an identifier on the converted clip that has FCP confused and it really is 25 fps.
To begin, your sequence settings don't match your clips. You want a Pro Res sequence. Let FCP set this automatically by dragging a Pro Res to an empty sequence and when gives you a message asking whether you want the sequence to match the clips, click yes. Then hit command 0 again and see whether the frame rate is set at 30 or 25.
If it really is 30, then it will need to be converted and re-imported. It can be done in Compressor or in Cinema Tools. If you have used Cinema Tools before, great. Of not, I'll defer to others because it's been a while and I don't want to mess you up.
Good luck.
Russ

Timeline frame rate and exposure correction capabilities of the latest iMovie

My background. I have been trying to create movies made from clips that can be played back at 60 fps. I have been using a Nikon V1 camera for creating video clips. It records 1080 HD movies that are interlaced, but at 59.94 fps (Double NTSC) rather than the 60i standard of 29.98 fps (Standard NTSC). It also records 720p60 footage as well. I would like to maintain the temporal resolution of footage (the "video look") I get with the camera as well as perform good exposure and color correction on dark/underexposed footage. I currently use iMovie '09 and Final Cut Express 4. My current computer runs on Snow Leopard, but I cannot update to Mavericks or Yosemite that the latest versions of iMovie or Final Cut Pro require. I intend to upgrade my computer in the next few months, but what I get will depend on what video editing software I figure I will need. Hard tech specs regarding this version of iMovie, however, are hard to come by. I am hoping someone with experience using the latest version of iMovie can help answer a couple of questions.
Regarding timeline frame rate - right now both iMovie '09 and FCE 4 destroy the "video look" I want by forcing the frame rate to go down to 30 fps in the timeline. Does the current version of iMovie support a true 60 fps in the timeline? Playing with the software and provided skateboarding footage at a local Apple Store indicates it does. And does it handle interlaced footage? Also, can it handle 24 fps footage (which another camera of mine records at) actually at 24 fps?
With regards to exposure and color correction, I find iMovie '09's capabilities lacklustre. If a clip needs better correction than iMovie can deliver, I import the clip into FCE 4 and either use the "Color Corrector" filter along with highlight and midtone exposure sliders to improve the exposure, or Gamma correction along with some hue adjustments. Can iMovie adjust midtones, highlights, and shadows separately, or do Gamma correction, or does it just do basic exposure and contrast correction?
Would I be better off considering using Final Cut Pro X instead of iMovie.

cy2006 wrote:
… I would be happy to get a 21.5" iMac for my work - but my wife insists on getting laptops, so that they can be easily stored away, out of sight. …
a few comments on that … :
• I made the switch from using iMovie for about 10y to the BigBoysToy when FCPX appeared - never want back! Although just an (enthusiastic) hobbyist, it 'beams' your projects into new spheres ... fun is: the better YOU get, the more it offers... you can use FCPX as a 'iMovie-on-steroids', or as a Hollywood-tool ... up to you.
• screen-estate … I'm actually 'scanning' the market for 21:9 and 4k monitors .. (don't tell the Secretary of Finance in my household); 15" would be way too small for my ol' eyes ... Aperture/Photo editing on 15"? ... hmmmmm....
• Whatever Mac - FCPX demands additional platters … a mobile set-up? Why not, but add at last 2 additional HDDs (luckily: tiny 'powerless' 2.5"/usb3 HDDs are meanwhile fast enough for average needs) to your travel-luggage …
• Working-space … I'm privileged to have a working-desk in my household; although 21st cent, I need tons of paper for my editing work (hu?? Yes, scribbling notes, time codes, 'settings' of color-values, coordinates, names of subjects, …), the camera(s), headphones, SDcards, my obligatory cup of coffee, ext. audio-recorder, a mic, a magazine with latest tricks 'n hints to accomplish dit&dat, ..... the idea of the mobile-working space is 'romantic', esp. for any editing work … in my reality!
• in the past, I had a charming furniture, an 'office on wheels', you opened a latch: my monitor, Mac, keyboard, stuff. With some DIY, it had ext. connectors for power line and ethernet (wireless was too lame those days) ... the whole thingie was parked in some corner, and when Daddy did movies, I rolled it to some charming place near the window, and I was ready to go!.....
.... what was the question??? I sound like Martha Stewart!! LOL!
Enjoy your new Mac and Welcome to FCPX ... this way please >>
Final Cut Pro X
Happy Movie Making!

Is this a bug?: copied movie clip has wrong frame rate and ruins the main movie's sync

Hello,
I am trying to copy a movieclip with a frame rate of 30 frames per second to a movie that has a frame rate of 30 frames per second. Both movies are actionscript 3 movies. When I do this, my copied movie clip's frame rate reverts to 12 frames per second and all my audio synched animation is trashed. Then when I change it back manually to 30 frames per second it makes my main movie's stage animation go crazy at full possible speed and the audio is all out of sync. I have not set export for sharing or action script on this movie clip. I've tried other movie clips that are 30 frames per second and it is all crazy!
Is this a bug? What can I do? I've got 100s of movie clips I need to make. I can't keep remaking them just because flash has a screw loose. I'll go crazy!
-theGibler

Oh sorry I goofed! My main time line is 12 fps! I can't belive I didn't see this before.

Is this how i control frame rate with IMAQdr property node?

Is this how i control frame rate with IMAQdr property node? if not, can someone point me in the right direction? for some reason, it doesnt work..
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