Fund center and commitment item not updated

Hi!
We are using Funds Management together with SRM. When we change the value of e.g. cost center and not the account assignment itself we do not get an update on fund center. When changing account we do not get an update on commitment item either. This is standard SAP and we have been asked to use BBP_DOC_CHANGE_BADI. Have anyone else had this problem?
I would really appreciate if anyone have some code for this BADI or any other badi e.g. BBP_ECS_PO_OUT_BADI. It is only important that changes in PO when replicated to back end results in the correct update of commitment item and fund center.
Sincerely
Andres

Solved through BBP_DOC_CHANGE_BADI

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