Generic Delta with Timestamp Field

Dear SDN Team,
We changed one of our HR datasource from FULL to DELTA with Timestamp(TMSTMP)-Time Stamp(UTC).
Which Delta we need to take Timestamp(Local) or Timestamp(UTC)
Our Generic Datasource is based on Function Module.This data source contains HR Hours Data i.e Direct Hours & Indirect Hours.
With interval settings has
Safety Interval Upper Limit - 'Blank' .
Safety Interval Lower Limit - 1800
New status for Changed Records (Selected)
It is a HR Generic Data Source.
We are creating the records in PA30,PA40 and going to take the records from PA0000,PA0001
Delta type for this DS is "AIE" as our delta type process for our DS.
I am trying to load the INIT to Cube,but its not allowing to load,saying with 'AIE' delta type its not possible to load to cube.
I changed the delta type to 'ADD' then the safety interval limits changed to
Safety Interval Upper Limit - 1800 .
Safety Interval Lower Limit - Blank.
Additive Delta (selected)
Is it possible to load the Generic Delta Time stamp to Cube?
Please let us know what are the settings & delta type needs to be there to load the Generic Delta Timestamp to Cube.
Your suggestions are really appreciated.
Thanks and Kind Regards,
Lakshman Kumar G

Hi,
We used TMSTMP filed with Data element TZNTSTMPS with data type DEC Length 15 in Function Module & Extract Structure.
Default filed name is TIMESTAMP_UTC,Domain is TZNTSTMPS.
Generic Delta -
Filed name - TMSTMP
Timestamp (UTC) selected
With interval limits
Safety Interval Upper Limit 1800
Safety Interval Lower Limit
New Status or Changed Records selected.
Thanks and Kind Regards,
lakshman

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>
> Regards,
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