Getting multiple audio tracks from monaural clips

Hello, newbie here... just moved from Vegas Pro to Premiere Pro.
Having searched everything as advised, I still cannot find the answer to my question.
I shoot with the EX3. When I drag a MXF clip to the timeline, it automatically creates four audio tracks which it inserts in tracks 4 thru 7, leaving Audio 1 empty, and this is with a monaural recording!
Can anyone tell me, please, what I'm doing wrong?
Thanks!

Harm, I understand what you're saying. Thanks for your input.
Bill, I read your article, but I'm not entirely sure I understood it. I will read it again.
My question is (see graphic below):
Why is PPro creating three extra tracks-5 thru 7? How do I stop this behavior?

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2. I then split the MIDI track by note to get multiple MIDI tracks.
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hi there:
ok now when u want to do such a thing which i totally understand what u are trying to do !so u have these options L
1- u should have a mixer to feed it with all your outputs from outboard gears like drum machines ,samplers etc...coz what u like in your dr-880 is the character of its sound and trust me if i tell you even if u tried to sample it and put it into any sampler software ,it will have the same sound but not the same character ! so thats why we still have samplers and out board gears and they will be still manufactured coz of that reason ...so for example i use my akai s6000 sampler which it has 16 outputs direct to my mixer so i can do what ever i want midi wise and audio wise with out any pain ,coz even if i have the same samples into my whatever sampler software i will never have the color and the character of the sound coming out from my akai ...and i use a drum machine which it has 10 outs as well and all is playing in sync in real trime with my audio tracks inside my logic ...this is the best solution !but i think u dont have that solution but u have to think about it if u bring a good console..!
2- you don't have to divide your midi from your machine you just do what ever its need to be done and when u finish record them one by one into your logic or 2 by 2 or what ever but in this case u cant control the midi of it anymore
but you gonna pain to do that every time coz sometime u dont have much time to think about u have to record the sound before any mix down!but it will work for you
3- make samples by your own of your drum machine and use esx24 to play them !but again you gonna lose the character of your sound but still having the same sounds u want ( if u know how do make a good samples).
i hope this tips gonna be useful for you .
cheers..!:)

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Each actor had their own wirless lav microphone recording to an external audio system that recorded wav files.
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what irritates me, Prince wrote:
The audio tracks were voiceovers that came from my
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iM 6 allows now "swapping" files with GB3... (I'm way
back in the 90ies.... see my specs... )
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