GRIR acoount split by profit center

Hi,
PO created for two line item. One is for plant A and other is for plant B. GRN raised for the delivery of both items. one FI document created for the GRN, Now the problem is GRIR account has been splited but assigned to one profit center only which has been maintianed in 3KEI.
3KEI maintied for GRIR, Inventory GL account, Field status variant changed and profit center is a required entry.
Thanks
Dinabandhu

Profit centers in GR/IR are derived from Material. No need to assign default profit center in 3EK1.

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Hello Aravind
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The actual need of scenarios to be added in every ledger is the need for these objects to be updated in new tables like FAGLFLEXT. If you do not add scenarios then information of cost center, profit center , segment will not be updated in New GL Tables.
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1) We have created material 106267 with material type ROH. We have assigned profit center 1001052999 (common profit center) to material.
2) We have created WBS element MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF with profit center 1001052002.
3) We have created PO 4000000236 for account assignment category u2018Qu2019 for the above material with WBS element MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF   . After posting GRN for PO 4000000236 we have identified that for GR/IR account profit center is taken from material master & for stock account profit center is taken from WBS element.
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89          231101     RAW MATERIAL STOCK     2,000.00     INR          1001052002     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
96          162101     GR/IR-Material     -2,000.00     INR          1001052999     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
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L.item     PK     SG     Account     Description         Amount     Curr.     Tx     Profit Ctr     WBS element
1     89          231101     RAW MATERIAL STOCK     2,000.00     INR          1001052002     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
2     96          162101     GR/IR-Material     -2,000.00     INR          1001052999     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
3     50          162001     InterSegment Clrg     -2,000.00     INR          1001052002
4     40          162001     InterSegment Clrg     2,000.00     INR          1001052999
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Entry
Accounting Document number Entry View
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PK     SG     Account     Description         Amount     Curr.     Tx     Profit Ctr     WBS element
31          100000     Ambuja Cement Ltd     -1,996.00     INR     V4
86          162101     GR/IR-Material     2,000.00     INR     V4     1001052002     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
40          254001     VAT Receivable     80     INR     V4
50          172103     TDS PAYABLE -194C     -42     INR
50          176101     WCT-TDS payable     -42     INR
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31          160100     CRS-Domestic Supp     -1,996.00     INR     V4     1001052002
86          162101     GR/IR-Material     2,000.00     INR     V4     1001052002     MUM-RIV002.SS.RC.RF
40          254001     VAT Receivable     80     INR     V4     1001052002
50          172103     TDS PAYABLE -194C     -42     INR          1001052002
50          176101     WCT-TDS payable     -42     INR          1001052002
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Account 141010, company code VALC is clearing account
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=========================================================================
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- When the customer invoice is paid through a bank transfer, the following happens generally :
The bank statement posts a first area 'debit' bank and 'credit' bank sub-account on a default profit-center (this posting needs to happen first because SAP aims to have the 'bank' posted as quickly as possible 'in the morning' leaving the manual clearing activities 'in the afternoon').
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