Hard drive and dvd drive - simultaneous failure

Hi
I'm running a 2yr 8 month old PowerPC. G4 1.67ghz with 2gb RAM. Until today, it's been pretty much faultless. I have had issues in the past related to installing updates from Mac. ie. on two separate occasions I took updates only to find that the machine wouldn't re-boot. Issues were resolved using install disks, disk warrior and/or repeated booting.
Anyway - today:
I installed the update (Security Update 2008-003 (power PC)). Restarted and all was fine. Sometime later, after considerable use, the machine went to sleep. When I tried to wake it it wouldn't do anything. Eventually a blank grey screen came up with the file icon which alternately flashed a question mark and the finder icon.
I looked on these boards for suggestions. The best one seemed to be boot from the install disks. Unfortunately there is already an audio disk in the drive. I looked for suggestions to eject but none worked. Eventually, I plugged in my bootable clone of my harddrive. The machine took matters into its own hands and booted from it.
Once up and running I ran disk utility to check the status of the internal drive. It doesn't come up in the display. Nor does it show on the desktop or the in the finder. Which suggests to me that it's died.
I then looked to see if I could eject the cd from the DVD drive. i found no icon for the cd on the desktop or in the finder. I checked the "about this mac page" and it tells me "No burning device was found." This in turn suggests that the DVD burner has failed along with the hard drive.
My immediate thought would be that both parts have just reached the end of their time and given up the ghost. I'm a bit surprised/suspicious though that they seem to have done so in the same moment. And on the day that I downloaded a Security Update.
Has anyone had a similar problem, if so what did you do? Can anyone suggest anything I may not have thought of to find my missing HD and DVD burner? Would I be best off going to the Mac store in London? Ultimately, is replacing them myself a realistic proposition?
Help appreciated.
Ewan

Thanks Arnie
Have been thinking along those lines. Especially as, when I boot the machine from the external drive, I can hear the DVD drive whirring. So it's clearly not completely dead.
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:33 PM] -- Automatically generated message:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- Automatically generated message:
You are now chatting with support specialist JOLLY R.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Welcome to HP Total Care for Notebook and Desktop support. My name is Jolly. I will be your technical support specialist today. Please give me a few moments to review your issue description details.
NOTE: For security reasons, PLEASE DO NOT send credit card information via chat.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
How are you doing today ?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Hi Jolly, I tried 3 different HDD's all of them were reformated and reimaged with the HP image from this laptop. When I try to populate the drive, it just closes the window. Same with the dvd drive. Other then no able to write to the dvd/cd drive, everything else is perfect. But that is not good enough...
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Great, you?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:46 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
I am fine. Thank you for asking.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:48 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Please let me know if the following details are correct for the notebook in question.
PRODUCT NUMBER: A5F92AV
SERIAL NUMBER: {Private Information Removed}
EMAIL ADDRESS: {Private Information Removed}
Am I correct?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:48 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Yes
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:48 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Thank You for confirming the details.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:49 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Are you using the same notebook to chat with me which is in question?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:49 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Yes
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:51 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
May I know since when you are facing the issue?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:51 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
I few weeks ago now
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:52 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
HP swapped out the DVD drive and I swapped out the HDD's
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:53 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Please click on the start button and click on computer.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:53 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Reimaged, renamed, removed, rotated them to different bays.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:53 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
ok
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:53 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Open\
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:53 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Is the CD/DVD drive getting detected ?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:54 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Yes
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:54 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Yes
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:55 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
So you need te reseat the CD/DVD drive and the hard drive .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:55 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
I did, over and over and over
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:55 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Okay
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:56 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
I have swapped out the dvd drive and hard drives
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:57 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Since you have already reseated the hard drive and CD/DVD drive, you need to send the notebook in for a bench repair.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:57 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
It will be a mail in repair service. I will send you a box along with packaging materials and a prepaid shipping label. Once you pack your notebook in the box you can drop it off at you nearest fedex drop box or you can schedule a pickup.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:57 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Box would contain- packaging material, shipping instructions & pre-paid shipping label.
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• Fed-ex would come at your place pick it up and send it back to hp.
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You can check the status of your order by going to: www.hp.com/go/csostatus or by calling HP Customer Care at 1-800-hpinvent (1-800-474-6836).
Your repair service has an estimated turn around time of 7 to 9 business days from when we receive your product at our repair center.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:57 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
In order to set up a service request please provide the following information:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:57 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
Dont I have on-site?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:58 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Let me check.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:59 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
This laptop is my life, my livelyhood.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 10:59 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
I can not be without iot...
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:00 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
I do understand that .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:02 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
Yes, you do have onsite , but a technician can be sent to your place only if any part needs to be replaced .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:02 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
As the notebook needs to be repaired , you have to send it to the HP service center.
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:02 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
It is the motherboard
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:03 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
What is the difference between repair and replaced?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:03 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
It will be repaired and returned back to you .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:04 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
But what is there to be repaired if your not replacing anything?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:04 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
If any hardware part needs to be replaced , a technician can be sent to your place .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:04 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
But since the notebook needs to be repaired ,you have to send it .
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:05 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
What is the difference between repaired and replacing something... So you mean that nothing will be repaired on my laptop?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:06 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
This is NOT right
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:06 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:06 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:06 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:07 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
What is the turn around time on this?
[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:07 PM] -- JOLLY R says:
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[Wednesday, October 24, 2012 11:08 PM] -- Rick Friedman says:
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