HDV exports cause overlayed interlaced frames

Recently we've started shooting with a Canon XH A1 in 1080/50i. We capture as HDV and the footage looks stunning in FCP. But when we export (tried various formats and codecs) the resulting movie have every frame being a combination of its two interlaced frames - not sure if thats the right way to describe it, but the following still shows it pretty well.
http://www.fatsand.com/videos/DoubleFrames_Test_v1still.jpg
The following video shows it too. THe first half is a clip exported normally, the second half is the same clip but de-interlaced in FCP - which works fine.
http://www.fatsand.com/videos/DoubleFrames_Testv1.mov
But I don't want to have to de-interlace all my footage, otherwise I might as well have shot in 25p!
Anyone else have this issue - I can't see what else I can do in FCP, but should I be doing something else during capture or even when filming?
Thanks
Rob
MacPro 2.66, 3Gb RAM Mac OS X (10.4.2) FCP 5.1.2

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I'm fairly new to Actionscript 3, just trying to puzzle something out.
I have several small movie clips saved in the library of myCS4 Flash.fla file, I want to make them available to dynamically add to the display list as children, based on the button clicks of the viewer. I can get it all to work fine via Symbol Properties > Linkage > Export for Actionscript.
BUT - When the movie clips are set to "export for actionscript" from the Library, playback seems to hang on frame 1 until all of these exported assets have downloaded. The big problem is that I have an ultra-simple but totally custom preloader/progress animation coded in a loop in the second and third frames, which kicks out to frame 4 and continues playback as soon as the download is complete.
Because of this, the preloader has essentially become useless - because all that can be seen is several seconds of empty stage, until the vast majority of the bulky assets have downloaded. Then the preloader flashes onstage for just an instant, and disappears because the content is already up.
So, my questions are:
A) Is there a SIMPLE alternate method to load these library assets in such a way that it doesn't cause this major lag on frame 1?
B) Failing that, I suspect I may have to retool my preloader to run as an ENTER_FRAME event in frame 1. Is this worth the effort (can this potentially resolve the lag issue and allow for a meaningful preload progress animation, despite the lag from the asset export?)
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**Edit follows**
OK, so after a little more research, I have basically answered this question for myself. I'm updating the post for the benefit of others who may find themselves in my shoes somewhere down the road.
The solution (as far as I can see) is to pretty much just avoid using the "Export for Actionscript" option for exporting assets to the timeline, as much as possible. Maybe it's fine for a few small assets, but not the best choice for large stuff, which in my case was the lions' share of the content!!
Or at least don't use the default setting of exporting to frame one!! This will likely foul up ANY preloader, because essentially Flash player will not display any of the content on frame one until ALL of the content on that frame has fully downloaded - You'll be stuck staring at an empty stage for ages, then when the preloader finally does show up on the stage and run, it will zip by in an instant while (probably) doing its job properly, but it's really only updating on the load progress of the balance of the SWF file.
The info I found suggested one easy method of making the assets available to Actionscript -- simply just place all of the required library assets into some unseen frame in the timeline, shortly AFTER your preloader runs. Then Flash Player will load them after the preloader has done its thing, and they will be available to be accessed by Actionscript later in the timeline when you really need them.
Also FYI -- I also tried changing the export settings to have Flash export the assets in question in frame four instead of frame one, with the unfortunate and unexpected result that my published SWF began skipping playback directly to frame four, which also effectively killed my preloader (which was running in frames two and three.) This glitch remained, even after reverting the export setting back to export the assets in frame one!! It seems like my .FLA file was irreversibly altered (contaminated??) by changing the export frame setting?!? Yikes!!
Luckily I had an earlier version saved under a different file name, it was relatively easy to go back to that version and bring it up to date.
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Goin' Kinda Nuts. HDV Exporting Square not Widescreen?!

Ok, so I have an HV20 Canon, and I import the footage in 1080i60. When I play the captured footage in quicktime, it plays in a nice big wide box in 1920x1080.
Then I have to do a whole process where I make the HDV footage into AIC footage so I can take the interlaced frames out so I can make a true 24p image. (It's an HV20 thing). Anyway, once I convert the footage to AIC and then take the interlaced frames out, I play the footage in Quicktime and AGAIN I get a nice big wide box playing the footage in 1920x1080.
Before I go on, I know HDV's resolution is 1440x1080, but Quicktime still plays it in its full look if you will.
Now I edit the footage in Final Cut Pro, and I export using an HDV setting but using 24 frames a second, and I get a stupid square box in Quicktime!!! What is going on? What do I need to do to export it correctly so it'll display as 1920x1080!
Every other step displays just fine. I'm getting frustrated. I've tried all sorts of settings from matching my sequence settings to matching prior settings to the captured footage and nothing.
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Conform Aperture only affects how movies play within QuickTime Player - the setting has no relevance to any of the FCS apps as best as I can tell - so as long as DVDSP (or whatever app you're using) can 'see' your HDV file as having a 16:9 ratio (meaning that it understands that the codec is anamorphic), you should be good to go.
Or where you going to make a DVD data disc to simply share the QT movie with someone?
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http://support.apple.com/kb/HT2410?viewlocale=en_US
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I would realy aprishiate your help on this one!!
And sory for my poor english.
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Im working on 1920:1080 50i square pixels uper field first futage and I aplied some graphics in after effects. But when I render it in same interlace resolution and import (interpretate futage) the futage looks good but graphics like text and every other element drown in after effects looks in poor resolution. I have to deliver interlaced futage and i tryed everything I could think of with no resoults.
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Thank you so much four reply, I tried with OpenGL rendering on and off but the problem is still there
and I watched it on interlaced monitor, it looked little better but not perfect. But I realy think that the problem is in my work flow so I made this smaller and much simpler project where I get the same kind of defect and maybe you could tell me where I made mistake??
-open new project make new comp(dv pal sqere picsel) and make one text leyer(I wrote "test" with big futura bold font, white font against black bg).
then animate text, I applied expresion to rotation time*120. Add to render queue and go to render settings and set field render to upper field first
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..ok, if its my monitor than i shuld be able to deinterlace that and see a normal picture right??
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obviesly i make some mistake in that proces but if that same proces works great with captured interlaced futage why do I get this problems with grphics made in after efeects and how do you combine those two(interlaced fotage and AE graphics) and export them as same interlaced footage??
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******BUG******
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