Horrible Customer Service! And a 33 month old BB problem continues to exist!

I have been a Verizon Wireless Customer for over 7 years. I have been a Blackberry user for even longer. In November of 2008, I switched my Blackberry World phone for the then new, Blackberry Storm. I kept my same phone number, had no previous problems with the World phone or any calling issues, etc. I just thought I might like the latest and greatest. Almost immediately after getting the Storm, I started getting these strange 1 way audio problems. When I say 1 way audio, I mean, I could here the other person on the end of the line, but they could no longer here me. It was strange and it happened infrequently. After about two weeks of having the storm, I decided that I really did hate not having the qwerty keyboard and so I took the storm back and got the BB Curve. Again, noticed that I had the same 1 way audio problems and contacted VZW customer service. After sending me out a new phone and several customer service calls, VZW opened a trouble tickets. It was never resolved and conveniently closed, with Verizon saying they could not duplicate the problem. I was not experiencing dropped calls. I still had full bars, was still connected to the party on the other end of the line and it was happening in a bunch of different places. I went thru this with the Storm, the Curve, the Tour and the Bold, all with this same sporadic one way audio, all with multiple different Blackberries being sent out to me, because Verizon was sure it was the Blackberry and not them! Customer service suggested, on many occasions, that I switch my phone number. WHY??? It didn't happen the first 3 years I had the phone number. They also, had the audacity to suggest that I switch to a different platform. HUH??? All of the sudden, I'm the only one in the neighborhood, who cannot have a blackberry phone, because it just no longer works for me???? Numerous tickets were open and no one would ever get back to me. I couldn't get a VZW Tech to call me back if my life depended on it. Call with one way audio were hounding me and VZW told me to mark my calls, where this happened. Did all of that and they still couldn't find the problem. The one way audio even happened when I was on one of the many calls to a Verizon Tech....yet they still could not "duplicate" my problem. To this very day, they still have not found a solution. After many months of dealing with Verizon (or not dealing with them, because they wouldn't call back) and researching new phones, I decided today, to try out an Android platform phone, just to stop the madness. I called VZW and told them which phone I wanted (I needed something that would have a long battery life, had good reviews, etc) and they told me that I could NOT have the Motorola Android 3, but I would have to take a reconditioned Droid Pro instead. I explained to them in no uncertain terms, that I was unwilling to pay for this change, as it's been an ongoing issue, that Verizon failed to ever fix or even acknowledge. While I was getting stuck with a phone that I really don't want, I was completely tired of dealing with these issues, Verizon and my understandably irritated customers. After the phone order was placed, the Verizon Customer Service guy, tells me that I have to return my Blackberry, within 10 business days or I would be charged for it. WAIT!!!! I don't even really want to change to an Android phone, I just want to try one out and see if this is going to give me the same issues as the BB. Why do I have to return the Blackberry? And why did Customer Service wait until we were almost finished with the conversation to unleash that little bit of information?? I would have never agreed to getting an Android, should I have known they were going to make me give up my BB too. No, I don't want the Android phone just to have an Android. I want Verizon to figure out what is wrong with my phone in the first place, but it's not going to happen!!!! So, I was really left with no alternative, but to try another phone. I have never gotten any compensation, in the almost 3 years this problem has been going on. I have not asked for anything, except for Verizon to fix an issue that is clearly their problem. We have another Verizon phone in our house and another line somewhere else and we have no problems with the other phones. I have had at least 10 different blackberries in the last 33 months and all have had the same issue. Quit blaming the phone VERIZON. Don't ask your customers to give up their phone numbers and change platforms, all because of your incompetence. I NEVER write reviews or go into any kind of forums, etc., but I've had it!! Customer Service ignores the issues. I didn't even know that any of the tickets were closed, until I called back with a ticket number, only to find out that the issue was unresolved and because of this, they had closed yet another ticket. To me, the fact they are making me return my Blackberry, just to try out another phone, is beyond comprehension. To top it all off, at the end of each of the conversations, the guy had the nerve to ask me if all of my needs were met, due to the issue. Lol! Yeah, they were all met! Why ask that question to someone you know that is completely ticked off at you????

Pepsio07 wrote:
I'm sorry, but when does swaping from a Blackberry Bold to an Droid Pro (certified pre-owned) qualify as an upgrade?
Secondly, I've had my phone number for over 7 years. It worked just fine for over 3 of those years. Why should I have to give up my phone number? It's not only a personal number, but a business number as well. I have more than worked with Verizon to figure out this problem. Done way more than my share and for anyone to say that I'm unwilling to work with them is beyond belief. I have marked every single call that has gone bad. I have turned off my phone for a period, to see if it was the network. I have switched Blackberry's numerious times. Why does everyone just jump to changing a phone number? Say I did this. What are they going to do with that phone number? It goes right back out there for someone else to have. That's what Verizon told me. If that's the case and the next person who picks it up has no problem, then it wasn't the phone, or me, or the number.
Oh, and Verizon has spent a lot of money trying to fix my problem?? Well, I've spent a ton of money myself, paying for a phone that doesn't work, time and energy switching from Blackberry to Blackberry, and not even mentioning the amount of time I've spent trying to figure out this problem, to no avail!
If something didn't work for 4 years I would be willing to try something else. Then again I don't run a business from a cell phone..

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so yesterday i posted the below complaint about my experience getting charged for service on my landline. After some "private chatting" with various verizon people i got the response that follows. unbelievable. i will without a doubt be canceling my verizon service as soon as my contract is up and will definately be recommending the same to friends and family.
here is my original post from yesterday:
I am creating this post to make public a complaint i have about unethical practices and poor customer service with Verizon.
Here is the story:
A few months back our landline stopped working. Called Verizon and followed all of the troubleshooting steps to try and fix the problem. No dice. I called again- they said they could send a tech out to fix the phone line- and was told specifically that if the problem was INSIDE the house and involved the tech coming INSIDE then there would be a $91 service charge. If the problem was OUTSIDE the house, no charge. So cautious that the problem might be inside, I replaced the phone jack and tried multiple phones etc to make sure it was not an inside issue. Called back and scheduled an appt. The tech came out- was extremely friendly and immediately located and fixed the problem- IN THE BOX OUTSIDE. Said there was a short in one of the lines at the box. It took him less than 5 min. I said- that was easy! He said- yup- and will save you money too (by not having to go inside). That was that. The next month we got our statement (we're on autopay)- and there it was- $91 charge. I called customer service- and after some passing around and review of the tech's notes by the rep- that stated he did NOT enter the house, they agreed to credit us back the $91 on our next bill. That was last month. Statement arrives today- NO CREDIT. I call back. After more passing around I am finally told that it was not credited because our "request" was denied. What? I said? The request was reviewed and denied based on the "notes" showing that i was "informed of the charges at the time of service"? Um, what? No i wasnt. I was informed MULTIPLE times PRIOR to the appt that i COULD incurr charges if the tech came in the house. He did not- his tech notes even state that. So now i get passed to a supervisor. He tells me that the tech notes state that i was told of the charges at the time of service. Funny- the month prior to that when i first called the notes did not state that at all- they simple said that he did not enter the house. Somehow after my "request" was filed the tech notes were modified. The supervisor was very curt and short and said the case was already reviewed and denied- no credit. He then goes on to say that the reason for the charge was because the tech did work on a line that LED into the house? What? Don't all the phone lines LEAD into the house? And regardless- it was explained several times to me that the ONLY charges would be if he came in the house. I have been a loyal Verizon customer for years- but i was shocked and quite frankly **bleep** off. NEVER was i told about any charges during the service. In fact i was told the exact opposite- that there would be NO charges since he never entered the house. This is a horribly deceptive practice- and i am NOT HAPPY. I told the "supervisor" so- who didnt seem to care at all- and told him that i would consider canceling my service because of this- at which he happily said "would you like me to transfer you to cancelations?" wow. Unfortunately I am still locked into my 2 year agreement- however i will unquestionably be looking to switch to brighthouse after its up and will be recommending likewise to my friends and family. You simply cannot tell a customer one thing and then charge them for another. Dont they record all the phone calls for "quality assurance"? Well if so, then they need to listen to the calls i made prior to the appt to ensure that i would NOT be charged if the tech did not enter the house. I triple confirmed this. Verizon has completely lost any credibility in my opinion. NOT HAPPY.
This post was followed by an online chat with a verizon person last night- who, after reviewing my acct and the notes on the acct said the following:
{edited for privacy}
WHAT? First off I WAS NEVER INFORMED THAT THERE WAS A DIFFERENCE OF WHERE THE WIRE WAS OUTSIDE MY HOUSE. I was simply told if the work/wires were ANYWHERE ON THE OUTSIDE of the house, which they were, then no charge. "Internal side of the NID leading into your home"- THIS WAS STILL ALL OUTSIDE! NO ONE EVER SAID IF THE WIRE WAS ON A PARTICULAR SIDE OF THE NID BOX I WOULD BE CHARGED! ONLY IF THE WORK WAS INSIDE OR OUTSIDE THE HOUSE! THIS IS CRAZY! AND ARE YOU SERIOUS ABOUT AN INSIDE WIRE MAINTENANCE PLAN? WHO THE HELL HAS THIS? OR HAS EVEN HEARD OF IT?
I AM SIMPLY AMAZED THAT A HUGE COMPANY LIKE VERIZON FEELS THE NEED TO BULLY AROUND AND TAKE ADVANTAGE OF PEOPLE LIKE ME. SHAME ON YOU VERIZON. CLEARLY I HAVE LITTLE RECOURSE HERE, HOWEVER AS MENTIONED BEFORE I WILL BE CANCELING MY SERVICE AS SOON AS MY CONTRACT IS UP (TO AVOID ANY RIDICULOUS EARLY TERMINATION CHARGES0 AND WILL BE RECOMMENDING THE SAME TO OTHERS. I WILL OF COURSE BE FILING A COMPLAINT WITH THE BBB AND ANY OTHER CONSUMER ADVOCATE GROUPS THAT I CAN - NOT THAT I EXPECT ANYTHING TO COME OF IT- BUT TO SIMPLY LET THIS GO ON RECORD. SHAME ON YOU. YOU CANNOT TELL A CUSTOMER ONE THING AND THEN DO ANOTHER. LISTEN TO THE PHONE RECORDS FOR WHEN I CALLED TO MAKE THE APPT- ALL I WAS TOLD IS THAT THERE WOULD BE NO CHARGE FOR WORK DONE OUTSIDE THE HOUSE...ONLY CHARGE WOULD BE IF WORK WAS DONE INSIDE. WOW. SIMPLY AMAZING.

Refund/Horrible Customer Service

I have been dealing with Verizon and their HORRIBLE customer service for 5 months now. In the beginning of August, I contacted Directv and put in an order for installation of a bundle package with verizon. I was supposed to be set up for August 10th. Well, that day, the tech shows up to install the directv, but has no idea about my internet and phone. So, I called Verizon. They had no clue about my service. They had nothing under my name, phone number, address....NOTHING. So, the RUDE lady who helped me on the phone (sounded like she did not want to be there that day, let alone help me with my issue) put in my order. She said it would take a few days. I wasn't happy, but fine, stuff happens. The day comes around when I am suppposed to have my internet connected. Low and behold, no internet. I call up. They say I am missing my start up kit. Really??? I have a modem that I used before...nobody ever mentioned a start up kit. So this guy says, Ill send it to you. It should be there within 2-3 business days. Doesn't show up. I call back, the order was never processed. So the next person says he will try it again. After waiting almost 7 days I get a tracking number and realize they have the wrong apartment number. I had to go pick up my own modem from UPS. When I called to change the aparetment number, I realize that it wasn't that simple. All of my services are at 16H instead of 15H. How convenient. Apparently, this is not an easy fix. Another week passes...this is now about a month since my original August 10th date. Finally, I should have connection in my apartment. I call back to have someone walk me through hooking up my start up kit. I DONT HAVE A SPLITTER!!!! Now I'm really irritated and I finally said forget it. It is not worth the time and effort that I am putting into this. I called to cancel everything. Well, your nice rep in retention, Jessica {edited for privacy} told me she would give me a $15 adjustment for 12 months. She told me she would send me the splitter as fast as she could. Ok, ONE MORE TIME. Can you guess what happened next? Yep...no splitter. (At one point along the way i spoke to Theresa who said she would credit my modem fee of $39.99) So, once again, I call retention and spoke to Darnisha{edited for privacy} who gave me a fix it ticket, back dated my account, and said that she would refund everything since a technically i never had any service. Great. This ordeal is finally over. NOT! For the last several months I have had bills come to me every month for some amount that I owe. Every month I call back and they say they will fix it. I spoke to CIndy {edited for privacy} on October 1st who told me I would get a final bill with a $0 balance in November. That statement came in at $43.92. I spoke to Angel {edited for privacy} on November 13th who told me my final bill would come in December with a $0 balance. I just received it this weekend with a balance of $24.43. Yesterday, 12/18/13 I called back for this bill and was told that my bill had been sent to COLLECTIONS!!! Now Verizon is messing with my spotless credit because they cannot get their stuff together. I spoke to Nicki in the Missouri billing department and have been assured that she will credit my ll with a voucher. But now I will have a mark on my credit because the bill has been sent to collections. I have spent numerous hours on the phone wasting my time, my minutes on my cell phone, and my sanity. At this point, I feel like Verizon owes me something. How can you tarnish someone's credit, give such poor customer service, and still be in business???
I have fallen into a hole that not one single person in Verizon has been able to dig me out of. I had left Time Warner to sign up with Verizon and it was the worst mistake and has been the biggest headache. When I cancelled Verizon, I went straight back to Time Warner. I never had an incident before and I have not had an incident since. All I want is to have this fixed. I work customer service and I know how fast bad customer service travels. Somebody needs to fix this bill and they need to fix it now.

Hi hnelson626,
Your issue has been escalated to a Verizon agent. Before the agent can begin assisting you, they will need to collect further information from you. Please go to your profile page for the forum and look at the top of the middle column where you will find an area titled "My Support Cases". You can reach your profile page by clicking on your name beside your post, or at the top left of this page underneath the title of the board.
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Horrible customer service in store

We have been customers for over 15 years, and went in to a VzW store last week to upgrade our 3 basic phones. Wanted to keep all basics. When they found out we wanted basics, things got very cold. We were pointed to the corner of the store where the phones were at. 3 to pick from - all $100 each! We asked if there weren't any free ones and were told that we'd have to go to the website to get free phones.
So I went to the kiosk in store and signed into MyVerizon and started through the upgrade process. There were NO free phones. So I had to sign in again for assistance from someone. In the meantime, I went to just the Verizon website and could see 1 free phone. 30 min. later, when someone could once again be available for questions, I was told that the kiosk was not their actual website, so I couldnt do the same things as if I went to an actual computer. I showed him that I could go to their website and could see the free phone, but he told me he couldn't help - I would have to call customer service or go home to my computer. Then he walked off. WOW! I am kind of used to being shunned for having basic phones, but to brush me off twice?
We left. During shopping later in the day at a large box store, we discovered 3 basic Verizon phones for $.97! 3 that were not even available on the VzW website. We got some awesome customer service from the store employee and did our upgrade of 3 phones in less than 15 min.!
We are stuck with VzW because of our location and lack of other wireless in area, otherwise, we would switch - I do not believe in supporting horrible customer service!

I had a terrible customer service experience also at the West Plains, Mo. Verizon. I went in to upgrade today to find out that my unlimited would now be cut to 2G. I was upset because I didn't realize Verizon was doing this. I was asking if I could atleast get 4G for my old price. Another worker there said, "Would you like me to sing you a song and dance?" Really, Verizon! All of the money you are taking and you're reducing services and this is the response I get? I think you can do better than this.

Apple Customer Service and warranty exceptions

Hello all,
Whilst I love my Apple hardware and software, and have had many good experiences with them over the years, unfortunately I post today with a complaint about what I perceive to be poor customer service and product quality.
In late March/early April of 2006, I purchased a 1.83GHz MacBook Pro with great anticipation- Intel inside, Tiger OS, inbuilt webcam, and general awesomeness all round. I also purchased the 3 year AppleCare warranty, which was to be a godsend as during the following three years I would experience:
*The replacement of the battery under the original MacBook Pro battery exchange program
*The left fan on the unit dying in 2007
*The logic board itself dying in late Feb/Early March 2008, thus bricking my laptop
*Another battery replacement as the replacement for the original died before it (realistically) should have (Apple very nicely made an exception to the battery's 1 year technical warranty and replaced it for me).
Fair enough, it's a new unit and was bound to have some problems. Unfortunately, last week the logic board died AGAIN; a mere 18 months after it was replaced in 2008. The unit is out of AppleCare warranty by 5 months or so, but I was urged by forumites and friends to call Apple, who would surely make an exception for me and pay for the replacement part, given my service history with the laptop and Apple's reputation for excellent customer service.
Unfortunately, this has proved to not be the case. Calling customer service at Apple Australia I talked to Steven, who was firm to the point of rudeness when he stated that my laptop was out of warranty and Apple would cover nothing but the labour charges involved, as a "guesture of good will". When stretched, he offered me a $125 voucher if I wanted to purchase anything over $400 in the Apple store, and stressed he didn't have to do this but the company was attempting to provide good service to its customer.
Despite my argument that I forked out over $3000 for this laptop a mere three years ago and am now looking at over $1000 to repair something replaced only 18 months ago, his line was that Apple provided a warranty and that was simply that (apart from a month or two grace). Five months is apparently "far outside the warranty period".
I received no challenge to my assertion that after buying something which cost over $3000, it was reasonable for Apple to expect a consumer to pay an extra $1000 every year after the warranty finishes to replace a broken logic board. In truth, I find this near incomprehensible, considering one can buy the supposedly inferior build quality of a Dell, HP, Toshiba, etc and see it last not just beyond the warranty but another two or three years before it finally suffers something terminal.
While from a warranty perspective Apple are well and truly within their rights to refuse to pay for the part, at the end of the day I am left to pay $1000+ for a repair for something which may only last another 12 months, plus $3500+ for a new Macbook Pro with AppleCare if I want a replacement- minus of course the $125 they are offering.
I did some reading of the ACCC's website about my statutory rights and the Trade Practices act, and I note the following with interest:
*Statutory conditions (goods)*
The Trade Practices Act implies the following statutory conditions into consumer contracts:
* The goods must be of merchantable quality. That is, they must meet a basic level of quality and performance, taking into account their price and description. They also should be free from defects that were not obvious to you at the time of purchase.
* The goods must be fit for their purpose. That is, they should do what they are supposed to do and be suitable for any purpose that you might have made known to the supplier.
* The goods must match the description you were given or the sample you chose from. For example, any carpet laid must be the same quality and colour as the sample you chose from.
* You must receive clear title to the goods, including goods bought at auction. In other words, you can expect to own the goods outright and any restriction on ownership should be explained to you beforehand.
While I don't particularly want to make a big deal of things, I hardly see $3000+ for three years use and $1000 each year thereafter to be merchantible quality or fit-for-purpose! This is supposed to be a high end laptop with excellent build quality, and yet I've a secondhand iBook that has been chugging for longer without issue than this machine!
I told Steven from Customer Service that his offer didn't satisfy me in the slightest, and still put me in an awkward position with regards to repair and repurchase. He simply wouldn't budge, and refused to see things from my point of view (which another operator, Anu, was able to do and thus produce a much better response from myself). I have since asked to speak to his manager which- after initial resistance- I have been able to secure a future callback from. I have no idea how well discussions with he/she will go.
What I'd like to hear from you guys and girls is your experience with similar situations, and whether you think I've a leg to stand on with regards my replacement request or the ACCC stuff above. Again, I love my Apple products but I hardly think asking them to replace the part while I pay for labour is a big ask, given the service history and my desire to continue buying and using their products.
Love to hear your points of view on this one; thanks for taking the time to read it!
Cheers,
Dave.

Dear meacod
I have live the same, except that I Cure my MBP before it goes to die.
A lot of older participants here just talk about Aplle care, which seem the automatic thing in front of a lack of real good quality on Apple products .
But I think we pay the price, and my second hand MBP was much more expensive than a brand new PC with more ram, more Hard disk, and even a blue ray...
I don't know your mbp history, but that's sure that we are not equal, in world, with Apple customer support. France is not so great, I don't know for your country.
The only thing I think is that Apple should take care of us, as we have some unacceptable issues, for An Apple Product...
Since 1996, when Apple was almost dead, saved by Bill Gates investment !!! , I have every year promote it, and it was not easy, but I have bring to Apple between 3 to 10 customers each year..
since One year, I have stop that, because I don't believe anymore in Apple product's superiority .
Oh, yes, on the paper, it's better, the system is really good. But the overall experiment can be so bad that I don't want to loose friends, or customers...
I don't say it's always bad : I just say that it CAN BE SO BAD and that Apple DON'T take care of that...
so, for your computer, open it, check it a lot, may be it's too late, but for instance, you talked about a fan, I have solved that case just by putting oil on the fan's axe...
good luck

Horrible customer service, how do you stay in business?

Your internet sales team fraudulently induced me into signing contracts worth $1200 for new smartphones by promising me free data for which I was apparently not eligible. This is completely documented in a chat transcript and I believe this was purposeful. After walking me through the upgrade process, the internet sales person told me I had to 'combine' orders into the one share plan by calling customer service. Not one of the five people I talked to after that had any idea what he was talking about in regards to 'combining' my orders. Not one. I think he fraudulently induced me into contracts worth $1200 and then passed me off to someone else who would deliver the bad news in the hopes they could convince me to accept a lesser deal. This is called bait and switch.
This is my story:
As a 10-year customer of Verizon, I was looking to upgrade my phones and account into the new Edge program. Our two lines always use less than 2Gs of data per month. I priced AT&T's NEXT plan and received an emailed confirmation from them that the monthly payments for the LG G3 and the Samsung Galaxy 5 PLUS unlimited minutes and texting with 2Gs of data would be $134.45 plus tax. I approached the online sales staff with this information and asked what Verizon could do for me. "Dencil" initially stated the same plan would cost me $169 and some change at Verizon.
"Dencil" told me via chat that to meet AT&T's price, I could upgrade to Edge, sign up for the 250MB plan and receive 1 free Gig of data per new smartphone purchased for 24 months. It will give me the price to basically match AT&Ts offer and my necessary 2Gs of data.
"Dencil" walked me through upgrading my phones. The website will only allow you to upgrade one phone to Edge at a time and you have to checkout each time (I expect this is related to the financing contract required per phone). "Dencil" told me that I would have to call customer service to get the lines 'combined' again into the share plan. He said customer service would make sure I received my 2 gigs of free data as he had no direct access to my account. This is all documented in the chat transcript.
When I finally reached customer service, I spent two hours, was transferred four times and spoke to five people. No one had any idea why the lines needed "combined." The first customer service rep transferred me to sales without telling me. Sales informed me they did not know anything about the free 2G promotion at all (I found this particularly surprising since there is a banner advertising it on your website, but I digress) and they could not help me. I was then transferred back to customer service.
When the customer service rep picked up, I explained my issues and asked to be escalated. He didn't do that, put me on hold for about 20 minutes and even though I explained that sales already told me they could not help me, he never came back and then went ahead and transferred me back to sales without warning. I have no idea what he was doing for 20 minutes.
The sale person I talked to this time also had no idea about the free 2G promotion and suggested I get back in touch with my original sales person, "Dencil". I had already explained it was an internet chat. I asked him how he would suggest I find "Dencil". The sales rep got very rude with me explaining that this was not his job and his job was... I cut him off and asked him to transfer me to someone who could help. Back to customer service I went. At this point, I was then disconnected. The disconnection was likely my fault as in my frustration I began punching as many numbers as possible just to get to a person.
After calling back, I spoke with a very nice lady who did escalate me as requested. The customer service supervisor informed me that my new account did not need to be 'combined' and she didn't understand what "Dencil" meant. She also told me the free 1 G per smart phone did not apply to the 250 MB plan. I explained that I was promised this and there is record proof. The customer service supervisor basically told me I was out of luck. She offered to upgrade me to the 1 G and then provide me a credit for another Gig for 1 year. That wasn't a comparable offer by half.
When I explained the deal I was offered by AT&T, she stopped just short of calling me a liar. The difference in plans is almost $30 (as quoted in the chat by "Dencil"). She told me Verizon would never allow their chief competitor to be that much cheaper and that she "keeps up on these things." I offered to send her my AT&T documentation confirming it and she declined. I then went over each charge explaining the differences. She thought she was going to show me how the costs were actually the same between the plans, but she never completed that action. I expect it was because she realized that's not true.
Throughout my conversation with the supervisor, I asked that my phone orders be cancelled and that my account be returned to its original status. She finally told me she complied and my order was cancelled. Lo and behold, about 18 hours later, one of the phones SHIPPED. I contacted customer service and they told that "oops, one of the phones slipped through, no worries, I could just refuse delivery." Okay, fine, but then an hour later, the SECOND phone SHIPPED. That one must have 'slipped' through also.

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Also refuse everything and get proof from FedEx that it was returned or refused. take a photo of each package to be able to track back.
Good Luck

Bt you need to get your customer service and billi...

HI all just to let you know I have been with bt ( all 3 packages vision, broadband option 3 and telephone + the £5 each month free calls )
Until they tried to put all of the bills together all was fine I got all bills and went online to pay instant with card and or part direct debit for 2 of the 3 accounts. ) all no problems.
UNTIL!!!!!!
the change over back in July 2010.
After a 1.5 hours repetitive conversation with customer service ( and yes they where english speaking ) we are astill no where.
they now say that my bt broadband has a different account and has been sent to my landlord ( as he had to call them 3 yrs ago to get a line put in to my rent place)
any way the only problem is my broadband bill. I have not received any bill paper or email from July 2010 at ALL!!
I still get the bills for vision and telephone all in my name and gets paid direct debit I have no problems with those 2 its the broadband bill
Only to find last night my landlord came round irate that bt had cut him off because my broadband bill was not paid and he said its not his its mine ( this was lets say a slight confrontation with me and landlord) BT muck up again !!!!
Next I call today to speak to Customer service only for them to keep repeating that there is nothing they can do its in the landlords name.
I say I'm not bothered I just want to know why I was getting all bills and paying for them ON TIME until July 2010.
They then say they need to change the account holder to my name and I say but your sending me online email bill and paper billing for my vision and telephone why have you stopped the broad band.
Any way sorry for long story but I am seriously thinking of enough is enough now what with the first 18 months broad band connection problems ( exchange end had to re port 3 times their end) and 4 engineers. to get it sorted to now when BT change all account into one for this to happen.
LISTEN BT ITs now become a personal confrontational matter ( my landlord coming round)
ITS your problem your end GET it sorted.
If my only advice to anyone with BT
1GET account in your name same address if possible.
2. make sure BT know your mobile, and email addresses. double check each year when you renew contracts
3. WRITE EVERYTHING DOWN , name, time date who spoke to.
HERE COMES BIG COMPLAINTS LOOK OUT BT
also sent email to adam lee yesterday about this whole thing. Adam lee was who my landlord spoke to about the whole thing and so I think he deducted the wrong billing of my broadband to his account.
his email is ******* for any one else.
UPDATE:
when I check my online statements it shows all 3 accounts yet BT customer service say my broadband account has been disconnected?? DUHHHH im using it now !!
and funny thing is how can you pay a bill if the broadband says your bill is uptodate your next bill is due 16th October 2010 ( YES 2010 ..LOL)

Hi Hamish72
Thanks for comments
I totally agree as I run my own facebook custom fanpage design and webhosting so I know how customers what to be treated Key 1 I learnt is always listen and repeat back their question. and 2 solve the problem. 3 revert back to no: 1
UPDATE: just spoke to another customer service person called KAREN. Now this is not a name and shame in fact I have include her name as she sorted this all out in 30 mins totally understood and has 75% solved problem while on the phone. The other 25% is down to waiting to activation of a move over of the error of bt putting my broadband account under my landlords account ( different address ). Why the other CS couldn't do this I don't know.
any way will let you all know how it goes.

Horrible Customer Service! And a 33 month old BB problem continues to exist!

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