Horrid Infinity experience

I had Infinity installed a few months ago and it has been nothing but a nightmare. Right from day one and is still a nightmare, here is my story about how shambolic BT have been.
Firstly the engineer who fitted my filtered face plate ripped out all my extension wiring from the faceplate and then could not put it back. He gave no explanation, fiddled with it for about 45 minutes randomly guessing which wires went in which punch down on the back of the socket, but could not get my phones to work again. I do not think he knew what he was doing, probably some contractor which has only been trained to activate Infinity.
Phoned BT to complain, as soon as he had gone only to be told I would be charged something like £100 for them to come back out and fix it. It was their staff that caused the mess, literally minutes earlier. How does that work, customer pays for inept engineer work? I obviously refuse their offer to bill me to fix their own mistakes.
IN ADDITION... The Infinity connection barely worked, sometimes it dropped sync and would not re-connect for hours, lights just flashed on and off. When it did connect I had a pathetic 2Mb upload and 4Mb download.
Phoned another department in BT to complain about this, going through the stupid automated options again, until finally ending up in the same call centre to be told that this is operating within spec.
Another two weeks go by until I had some time off work and I decided to fix what I could myself. Reconnected my phones all back up to the back of my face plate myself, working perfect. Decided to investigate the internet connection. I knew the 'engineer' had done something dodgy here also as the incoming drop wire looked a lot shorter than it did before. Remove faceplate fully from the wall and discover the 'engineer' (laughable to even call them that) had decided to tie the incoming drop wire to the faceplate in a double knot at the back of the socket. I know he did this as previously the wire had some slack and ran along the skirting board nice and flat and even to the socket. Carefully undo that. Reconnect it all back up and internet speed increases to 3Mb upload and 6Mb download. Not the success I was hoping.
Estimate given at sign up was 60.2Mb download and 20Mb upload. Ring BT again, told again it is within spec. I persist and have an engineer come out. I am warned by the Indian call centre and I quote 'this could cost up to £100'.
Engineer arrives 3 days later, says the faceplate is faulty. Replaces faceplate but speeds remain unchanged, he then performs other tests and discovers that a wire incoming is damaged and actually states 'It looks like at some point it had been severely bent'. I tell him yes that was your colleague who came to install my Infinity who decided to tie a knot in the incoming drop wire.  He denies that any other engineer would tie a drop wire in a knot and walks off to his van. He then proceeds in replacing the cable.
Nearly two hours after he first arrived everything is done and it is the moment of truth. Powers on the modem, looking good it at least connects first time now. I plug in my laptop to the hub. At this stage he starts looking at his watch and says 'Right all should be fine now' and he starts to try to leave. I tell him 'oh no no no, lets test it before you run off'.
Run tests at speedtest.net, no change. His attitude now is becoming quite a bit moody, walks out to his van again actually swears under his breath quietly (I still heard it) as he crosses the road to get to his van.
Comes back with another bit of gear, plugs that into the socket and this confirms the speed is still 6Mb download and 3Mb upload.
He then trys to phone some automated thing to get the line reset, only for the automated message to say something along the lines of 'unable to process request at this time'. He slams his giant handset done on my window ledge now fuming. Says there is nothing I can do and leaves.
One week later I get my bill in. I have been charged in excess of £160 for this "work".
Phone BT again to complain, told again everything is fine and the broadband will rise on its own accord within a week, told I can not have a refund as it was 'critical work' that needed to be carried out. Er yes it was critical because your original engineer damaged things and it still is critical because the second monkey could not fix things properly.
Three more weeks go by and phone now develops a fault and is noisy. OH JOY!
Ring BT, am shocked they actually admit it is a problem and automatically schedule an engineer. I query "am I going to be billed again" to be told "No sir, it is a fault external to your property at the exchange of cabinet".
Two days later I see the engineer at the bottom of my road at the cabinet. He is there for about 45 minutes, once gone phone line is clear.... Hooray they actually fixed something I think.
Aprrox another week later next months bill arrives and guess what...... Oh yes you got it right, ive been billed again. Call centre inept again, lied to again. Another £85.40 for this work.
Phone and complain again, support worker looks through the computer, apologises but says that the charge will remain incurred.
I query my broadband again which is still stuck at 6Mb down 3Mb up. DLM has done nothing to it even after all their "REPAIRS" and they offer to send another engineer. I obviously after the last £160 bill for "cough, splutter" broadband fault repair work decline.
So there you go BT the communications company that leaves you with no phone extensions working, wants to bill you at every opportunity, Calls "Superfast FTTC" 6Mb down and 3Mb as perfectly acceptable.
I would complain more to them and keep getting them to send engineers but I can not afford it. Monday morning I am off to Virgin, paying off the remainder of my BT contract and then rather than try to communicate with them filling a small claims action.
To think I once had shares in this shambolic mess of an organisation and have been a customer for over 30 years and thought they were an honest decent firm now just seems laughable.

Thank you all for the replies.
@Paddy
Are you BT staff? If so is there another way to contact you directly as i do not trust giving account or personal details to anyone on the internet. I will not even shop online so no matter how many assurances i get you are who you say you are, unless i know that im not handing out my phone number, account number and anything else im likely to have to provide.
If you look in to this problem how long is it likely to take for my broadband speed to be increased to anything near the estimates i was given?
If an engineer has to attend what assurances can you give me that i will not be billed any further for any other work?
How long is it likely to take for you to look in to what i was charged and have this refunded?
I have been fobbed off for months, billed when told i would not be and lied to already so forgive me if i am not very patient. I do not want to wait and currently have total and utter distrust of anything BT tell me.
@Paradox
Yes the Virgin visit is an actual appointment for Monday. Do you know what the charge will be if i cancel the installation?
Yep no idea how they can get away with charging me for work at their cabinet and not in my home or why i was billed for the home visit to fix broadband but in return just got a grumpy, swearing engineer that solved nothing at all.
Perhaps if Paddy can explain what those charges were likely to have been for in the first place i may have more trust and cancel the Virgin visit.  Otherwise no ill be glad to be gone from BT and to Virgin, file the small claims on Monday also. To be honest the deal i have been offered for 120Mb from Virgin even if BT could now put my connection right is pretty good, it would take a lot to convince me to give BT yet another chance. Horrid experience.

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    Hi all
    Well I thought I would post a message with my experience so far after returning to BT for internet service.
    I should first mention I have an extremely low opinion of BT because ever since I first started dealing with them back in 2001 I have had nothing but headaches, blunders, missed call outs and generally poor service. I could go into all of those fiascos, but they have been water under the bridge for a few years now.
    Anyway, I decided I wanted an FTTC connection and although my provider at the time could supply it, they wanted to charge nearly £100 and would not supply a cable modem/router so I would have to buy my own.
    After some consideration I decided to give BT another try after walking away from them back in 2008.
    OK, now no offence to anyone in those call centres in India, but I live in the UK, so I want to talk to a British person, or at least someone who is perfectly fluent in English (not reading from a script). I knew this was a slim hope so I decided to go the fool proof way and place my order online.
    Order duly placed and on my order tracking page I had a button to click and enter my MAC code when I received it. I didnt get that for another couple of days but when I went back to my order page to enter it - the button to enter the MAC code had gone! My order was apparently all on track. So I called BT and luckily got through to a UK call centre where the customer service representative checked into the problem. The result?
    Well, for some reason they had two orders on the system that were conflicting, and causing an erroneous order status to be displayed on my tracking page. He went off for a few minutes, came back and said it had now all been sorted - both orders had been deleted and he had manually entered the order on the system with the MAC code I had just provided.
    Great! All on track now..........
    The engineer was booked for Saturday 12th January, 2013. The home hub 3 was due to be dispatched by Tuesday 8th. Anyway, by wednesday 9th, there was no oder tracking code on my order page, so once again I called BT. This time I got through to India where unfortunately the BT representative was unable to answer my question and the conversation went something like:
    Me: Hi I have an order placed for Infinity and the BT home Hub was supposed to be dispatched by now but I do not have any tracking number on my order page. Can you please check to see if it has been dispatched, and if not, when it will be sent?
    BT: One moment sir, I will just check the order details now. Yes sir I can see on the system that your order is due to complete on 12th January
    Me: Yes I know that, but the problem is the BT home hub has not yet been dispatched and the engineer needs it to install Infinity. Can you please tell me when it will be dispatched?
    BT: Yes sir, I can see from the order that your home hub is due to be delivered by Thursday 10th January.
    Me: Yes I know it is supposed to be delivered by then, but it is now Wednesday and my order status page on the BT website says it has still not been dispatched - meaning it will not be here tomorrow. Can you please check why it has not been dispatched?
    BT: One moment please sir I will just put you on hold and check the system (on hold for about 30 seconds).....Hello sir, sorry for putting you on hold, I have checked the system and I can confirm that your Home hub is due to be delivered on the 10th January, and the engineer is booked for Saturday 12th January. Your unlimited evening and weekend phone plan will be activated by midnight on 14th January. Is there anything else I can help you with sir?
    Me: (silently banging my head up a brick wall) - No, no thank you, that will be all. 'Click'. 
    So I leave it an hour and call back - purposely to a different BT department where I got someone from the UK (presumably) and I explained that I have a problem and I would like to talk to someone in the UK please - NOT in India. So I was placed on hold for a minute and transfered to a representative who could help. Fortunately it was someone who was perfectly fluent in English (although did have an odd accent - so it may not have been their primary language). This person checked the order and came back to say:
    BT: Hi sir, sorry for placing you on hold for so long, I have checked the system and it appears you have three orders in place and they are conflicting with each other. The reason the home hub has not been dispatched yet is because the order is saying you have not yet provided a MAC code.
    Me: Uhhhhhm, I provided the MAC code over the telephone over a week ago......
    BT: Oh.....Sorry sir I just need to pop you on hold while I look into this.
    (A few mins later)
    BT: Hi again sir, sorry for placing you on hold for so long - I have had a colleague check the system and it appears that one order is cancelled, the other is live with a MAC code, but is not present on your order status, and the final order is live on your order page but showing as no MAC code present - hence why the Hub has not been dispatched yet.
    To cut a long telephone conversation between myself and several people BT short - their system dropped the ball big time, and a kind gentleman in India (who could speak fluent English) put everything right. Kind of.
    I was verbally promised by him that he would expidite my order through the system, and that the engineer would still call on 12th Jan, even though that slot was now no longer available. But he said he would call me back in the morning to finalise all the details. By 3pm the following day I had not recieved that call.
    So I called BT back.
    Again I explained to the first person to pick the phone up that I wanted to deal with someone fluent in English. Thankfully the person who answered after a brief period on hold appeared to be British. I went through the problems again and it turned out BT could not honour my original appointment of the 12th, and the kind gentleman in India had placed a note on the system to say as much - to which my first question was "OK, thats fine but why has nobody been in touch as promised?". I got a general response of "I can't answer that sir". So I spent half an hour on the phone with a very nice person from BT who finalised all of the details and managed to expedite my new appointment to 16th January, which I was really pleased with after reading horror stories of people having to wait 2-3 weeks or even a month!
    Also, a credit to BT was that they arranged to waiver my first months charges for my troubles. Added to that, on my original order I had ordered a telephone as well, which was offered at £10 less than the BT shop were selling it. I explained this, and they credited my account £10 because it was not showing on their system as available, but the BT shop was showing stock - but at £10 more.
    So on Monday 14th Jan, my new Home Hub was delivered as promised in email and SMS messages. Great - almost there!!
    So - the day of reckoning - Wednesday 16th January 2013...........
    I was up early and ready to answer the door by 07:30 - just in case the engineer was early (my slot was 8am-1pm). I had alo booked the afternoon off work as the email said I needed to make sure I was available for 3-4 hours after my appointment slot ended.
    tic, toc, tic, toc the morning wore on. I sat on the 2 seater looking hopefully out of the window. No van. No BT man.
    tic toc tic toc. I spent some time on the forums reading horror stories so decided to be pro active and contact a mod - just in case.
    Anyway, I got that sinking feeling I have had so many times before when it comes to BT engineers not showing up, and I started to feel disappointed and a little annoyed. I went into the kitchen an started making lunch when there was a knock at the door!
    Could it be? Why yes it was! It was a sub-contractor operating on behalf of BT Openreach, but I didn't care, he was here to fit my Infinity! I was grinning from ear to ear. The engineer was competent and swift, and all in all it took around an hour and a half from him knocking the door to me waving bye bye - and that included a 20 min trip to connect the line. Not only that, but as soon as the Hub was connected I was live getting 51mb down and 10mb up - which was exactly as estimated on the speed checker.
    So nearly 48hrs later and I am still connected. No drop outs and no drop in speed so far. Fingers crossed it will remain so!
    So overall, my experience has been mixed. Shocking service with regard to blunders and problems (yet again) but at the same time I have mostly spoken to people who have helped and got my order back on track. I think it has to be said though, that these problems should not exist and it was only due to my knowledge in dealing BT over the years that I was chasing everything up regulalry which is why the problems came to the attention of BT in the first place. If I had not chased at every turn I would be sitting here with no new connection, and in limbo.
    That said, I have to say the telephone service has vastly improved since last time I dealt with BT. I dont think I was on hold waiting to speak to an advisor for any longer than 5-10 mins - and in most cases it was less than 5. But again, due to my past experiences I know how to manipulate the system to speak to the right people and not be transferred to an automated service or to India.
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    I would like to know how the appointments are allocated though, and whether it is BT or Openreach that are at fault. Are BT thrusting too many appointments onto Openreach, or are Openreach taking more than they can handle?
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    Unfortunately, BT and Openreach have the monopoly, and whilst that is the case we are all at their mercy. Even if you use another provider for FTTC they will send an Openreach engineer. I personally do not think such a monopoly should be allowed, and I think part of the woeful lack of respect for customers is the fact that customers have a woeful lack of options.
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    Again it boils down to monopoly - and one which should have been stamped out years ago. Since 2006 BT tried to appease Ofcom by giving the illusion of a fair crack of the whip to other suppliers. But Openreach report directly to the BT CEO. They are an arm of BT and therefore the monopoly remains. Whoever your provider is with, they will be using BT equipment in BT exchanges (unless you are on Cable)
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    I can, however, praise their staff for bearing the brunt of their companies failings. Keep up the good work guys, and maybe one day you will work for a company that deserves you.
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    Yes, the Infinity seems to be very good
    I am on Option 2 receiving 50-51MB down and 9-10MB up -which is exactly what BT estimated I would recieve on their website. I can download things off Steam at 6.1 mb/s - which I thought would be higher, but it is still 7 times faster than I was getting before
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  • Infinity Week One... 1Mbps... Helpdesk Woes!

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  • Infinity nightmares once more

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    Ever regret taking up the offer of an apparently better infinity experience by getting in touch with kelly communications for the modem refresh?
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    Hi
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  • Insufficient bandwidth - now solved - phew

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  • Infinty connection timeouts requireing constant we...

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  • So, is my modem duff? Nearly end of 18mth contract...

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  • Loss of connection with Broadband from modem/hub.

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    John
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    Hi John,
    I've been going through exactly the same thing as you for the last 2-3 months. My first few weeks on Infinity were fine actually, then Homehub started dropping connection to the broadband a few times a day, now it's every 10-15 minutes. It's been ongoing for a couple of months now and last week I received a replacement Homehub after contacting one of the mods here. No change, in fact if anything it's worse. It's entirely useless to me to be honest, I can't watch anything online, play any games online and to work from home I have to use a 3G dongle (it's slow, but at least it stays on for longer than 15 minute intervals).
    Anyway, needless-to-say my BT Infinity experience has been terrible so far. I've seen a few posts on here from people who have had what has sounded like a similar problem and they have swapped out the Homehub for a 3rd party router and have found it to solve the problem completely. It's something I have considered, but until BT actually admit to me that the cause of the problem is their crappy hardware then I'm not going to risk spending the money.
    The mod that contacted me did mention that if the replacement hub doesn't fix the problem (it hasn't) then it might be an issue with the PPP session/RAS server and that he'd report the fault to BT Wholesale for me if that is the case. I e-mailed him this morning asking him to do so.
    Good luck!

  • Optimised internet settings seems to have helped w...

    Hi there, I am fairly new (10 days) to the infinity experience. 
    When the engineer installed he showed me the stats from his test which showed I should get up to 77Mb/s download and about 20 up. over the past week this has been fairly consistent on the bt speed test site with the usual peak hour decreases.
    However on the speedtest.net site I was never getting more than about 40-50 Mb/s download speeds. Until today when I ran the internet optimiser on the auslogic speed boost software. I usually down have much faith in these type of things but it looked at things like MTU and TCP stack settings. 
    After running this I am now getting download speed readings in the 70-80 Mb/s on the speedtest.net website. 
    So my advice is that if your speeds dont seem consistent between testers and web speeds seem sluggish then it is probably the settings on your PC. use a tool (or manually set if competent) to change these settings!

    Thank you. I knew it was something simple.  I'm new to Mac, and perhaps stupid too.

  • My experience of recent upgrade to BT Infinity

    First it did not go well. After a few days my broadband connection kept dropping out, often a much as ten times a day. Finally in despartartion I phoned the help desk and as usual I spoke to a nice gentleman 5,000 mile away with an accent I could not understand.  Evenually, it was arranged for an enginner to vist and he changed both the Modem and the Hub. Still the problem continued.  Another phone call to India resulted in another engineer visit.  He belived that the fault was in the infamous "green box", but this was another department of BT and he could only report his findings.  After a few days, I can only presume that the fault in the box was fixed as I now get a good connection.
    I only have two comments to make.
    1. Firstly BT need to train their engineers better on fibre optic and stop recruting installers on contract who clearly don't know their job.
    2. Secondly, BT should realise that BT stands for "British Telecom" and not "Indian Telecom" and bring their Help Desks back to the UK.  Odd how their Sales Desks are in the UK!

    Hi RTFishall,
    Thanks for posting. Sorry you didn't have a great experience to begin with. I hope it's all running well for you now. Let us know how you're getting on.
    Cheers
    David
    BTCare Community Mod
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  • So far my experience with BT infinity 2 is not goo...

    I am having terrible trouble with my bt infinity 2 that i got installed last tuesday. i am getting a line speed of 75mbps which is great when it works. I mostly use it wirelessly with the dual band dongle supplied or sometime just with my laptops normal wifi.
    I can be surfing the internet fine then suddenly it will just not load pages and i have to restart my computer and wait for it to load again then it will work. the page just stays blank and the loading icon just keeps spinnning. 
    ALsoi the home hub 4 light often changes from blue to with the red broadband flashing then i have to unconnnect the red ethernet cable in lan 1 and keep switiching cables until i can get the lan 1 light back on.
    i phoned the Indian call centre which is not very good for help. they said there is nothing wrong with the line and told me to swap the cables about.
    has anyone else had these problems ???

    Red flashing on the H3 means it can't negotiate a PPP connection, which could be a faulty hub or something at the cabinet/exchange/BT end.  I would assume it's the same with a HH4.

  • User experience - Infinity 1 versus 2?

    My cabinet will be enabled in a few weeks with an estimated speed of 62.1 down /20 up.
    My main usage will be Internet browsing and some TV streaming.
    Would I notice any difference between Infinity 1 and 2?

    down to personal choice just remember if you are doing a lot of TV streaming you would be needing an unlimited package
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  • My infinity installation experience

    Well Engineer arrived on Friday bang on time & I was ready to explain where I wanted the modem & hub positioned. I even moved the sofa to give him room to run the "Data Extension Kit". But, he looked at me like I had 2 heads, basically said that was for me to sort out myself nothing to do with him. So I figured I misread something somewhere...
    But(from here):
    So you now need to think about how a Data Extension Kit cable (max 30 metres long) can run from your master socket to your new BT Infinity Hub. The engineer will install the cable and talk to you about the route of the new cable. They’ll tack it neatly to the top of skirting boards and run it around door frames, but are not allowed to run it under carpets.
    I'm a little miffed that the Engineer side stepped this, and even acted like I was out of line asking about it!
    On top of that after everything was connected he tested the line on Speedtest.net!? Surely, this isn't BT's idea of test equipment?
    Anyway, moving on, 3 days in and I'm not overly impressed. On a wired connection I'm getting great download speeds upto 35Mbps  but not very consistent, regularly drops to 12 & I'm only a few metres from the cabinet. The wireless performance is appalling: slow websites and speedtest's as low as .13Mb/s!!!
    http://www.speedtest.net/result/1155769727.png
    So much for smart wireless! On my old router a DG834PN (about 5 yrs old!) I manually selected channel 3 as having looked at the surrounding wifi networks in the area this was the least occupied and offered the best performance. Homehub3 keeping picking channel 6, 4 of the 8 neighbouring wifi are on channel 6, I've manually switched it to 3 and lo and behold decent performance again...
    Anyway, that's my rant over, when it works it's great but when it doesn't it's painful!

    The problem with the contractor saying they wont move the master socket is that is not true. The job is the same wether a bt guy does it or a contractor. If you get one that refuses to move the socket or run an extension, report them for not doing their job properly. 

  • Infinity - post installation experience

    I had Infinity installed over 2 weeks ago already on my second fault.
    To be fair to the support teams they have kept me informed but concerned that I don't really understand what is happening. I recognise that speeds will vary due to load on the network.
    My predicted synch speed before installation was 30 MBytes
    On the day of installation the engineer synced at 37Mbytes. 
    When using the BT speedtester it suggested that my download speed was configured at  37MB and upload at 10MB. I understand there will be some loss due to packet overhead etc.
    During the 10 day settling in period download speeds observed ranged  from 2MB  through to 37MB. I  used BT Speedtester and Speedtest.net sites to test.  Generally the BT test showed a slightly lower reading but no significant differences between the two sites.
    This variability continued so a fault was reported and within a couple of days download speeds seemed to settle to an acceptable level - no indication from BT what the problem was.
    This state did not last for long and the variability of speed returned. second fault reported and tests underway. The fault is still open, however, I note that when I use the BT Speedtester download speed now appears to be configured for 14MB - a far cry from the predicted 30MB and significantly lower than the 37MB the service was originally configured to support.
    Fault remains open and the real concern is that as I type this download speeds have dropped to less than 2MB, if this goes on I will need to cancel the order for BT Vision that I have placed.
    Any other people experiencing similar problems ?

    Help before  I do something I should not........  
    BT has closed the open fault without checking with me if the problem has been fixed. There is some marginal improvement in speeds but the BT speed tester is still saying that the speed falls below threshold.
    This is poor customer care. I am prepared to wait for the fault to be fixed, but the lack of communication is dire. I understand the holiday period and the poor weather of late has created pressure on BT but this is no excuse for not communicating with your customers.
    Herewith are the test results :
    FAQ
    Test1 comprises of two tests
    1. Best Effort Test:  -provides background information.
    Download Speed
    9014 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    38717 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
    > Download speedachieved during the test was - 9014 Kbps
     For your connection, the acceptable range of speedsis 12000-38717 Kbps .
     Additional Information:
     IP Profile for your line is -38717 Kbps
    2. Upstream Test:  -provides background information.
    Upload Speed
    8236 Kbps
    0 Kbps
    10000 Kbps
    Max Achievable Speed
    >Upload speed achieved during the test was - 8236 Kbps
     Additional Information:
     Upstream Rate IP profile on your line is - 10000 Kbps

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