How much disk space is required by certain programs (sources)/DDIC-Objects?

Dear experts,
a customer asks for information about the disk space that his SAP-system will additionally require for the installation of the program packages that he is about to purchase from us. To make a long story short: I have no idea how to decently answer that quesion!
I can imagine that there are SAP standard programs that provide an answer to that question.
Does anybody have a hint on how to answer that?
thanks in advance
Andreas

Very strange question by your customer, normally development objects take only a fraction of the space compared to application data, and also normally any box should be maintained to have enough free space for another say 10% growth of the overall database, so a few extra development objects should not matter.
An indicator might be the size of the transport request data file, multiplied by a factor unknown to me.
You can also check in the SAP Netweaver Administrator forums.
Thomas

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Does anyone know at what point OSX gets starts getting slow regarding free disk space?
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There is no magic number here, RFC2662. It depends a great deal on what you use your computer for.
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By this time, of course, defragging itself has already become just about impossible. The amount of work required to shift the data into contiguous blocks is immense, puts additional stress on the drive, takes forever, etc etc. The extent of fragmentation of free space at this stage can be simply staggering, and any large files you subsequently write are likely to be divided into many , many tens of thousands of fragments scattered across the drive. Not only this, but things like the "extents files", which record where all the bits are located, will begin to grow astronomically as a result, as the computer struggles to keep track of where everything is l, putting even more pressure on your already stressed drive, and increasing the risk of major failures.
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In the "first phase" (with your drive less than half full), fragmentation doesn't matter much at all - probably not enough to even make it worth doing.
In the "second phase" (between , say 50% free space and 20% free space remaining) it becomes progressively more of an issue, but , depending on the use you put your computer to you won't see much difference at the higher levels of free space unless you are serious video buff who needs to keep their drives operating as efficiently and fast as possible - chances are they will be using fast external drives over FW800 or eSata to compliment their internal HD anyway.
At the lower end though (when boot drives get down around the 20% mark on , say, a 250 or 500 Gig drive) I certainly begin to see an impact on performance and stability when working with large image files, mapping software, and the like, especially those which rely on the use of their own "scratch" files, and especially in situations where I am using multiple applications simultaneously, if I haven't defragmented the drive for a while.
For me, defragmenting (I variously use a "clone , wipe and clone back"process or use iDefrag - it is the only third party app I trust for this after seeing people with problems using TechToolPro and Drive Genius for such things) gives a substantial performance boost in this sort of situation and improves operational stability. I usually try to get in first these days and defrag more regularly (about once a month) when the drive is down to 30% free space or lower.
Between 20% and 10% free space is a bit of a "doubtful region". Most people will still be able to defrag successfully in this sort of area, though the time taken and the risks associated increase as the free space declines. My own advice to people in this sort of area is that they start choosing their new , bigger HD, because they obviously are going to need one very soon, and try to "clear the decks" so that they maintain at least that 20% free buffer until they do. Defragging very regularly (perhaps once a fortnight) will actually benefit them very substantially usually, but maybe doing so will lull them into a false sense of security and keep them from seriously recognising that they need to be moving to a bigger HD!
Once they are down to that last ten per cent of free space, though, they are treading on glass. Free space fragmentation at least will already be a serious issue on their computers but if they try to defrag with a utility without first making substantially more space available then they may find it runs into problems or is so slow that they give up half way through and do the damage themselves, especially if they are using one of the less "forgiving" utilities!
In this case I think the best way to proceed is to clone the internal drive to a larger external with SuperDuper, replace the internal drive with a larger one and then clone back to it. No-one down to the last ten percent of their drive really has enough room to move. Defragging it will certainly speed it up, and may even save them from major problems briefly, but we all know that before too long they are going to be in the same situation again. Better to deal with the matter properly and replace the drive with something more akin to their real needs once this point is reached. Heck, big HDs are as cheap as chips these days! It is mad to struggle on with sluggish performance, instability, and the possible risk of losing the lot, in such a situation.
So it comes down to this:
1) If you really need maximum speed from your drive, for heavy duty video editing and the like, then you are probably best off keeping the internal drive for system and application use, keeping it as empty as possible, and using fast FW800 or eSata drives for your work files.
2) For the vast majority of users, though, they will notice little or no difference until free space on the drive falls to 20% or less of total capacity. (There will be a reduction in performance, but it won't really matter , or be obvious, to most users). Once the drive falls below about 30% they will benefit a bit from occasional defragmentation, either using the "clone, wipe and clone back" approach, or using a good utility like iDefrag.
3) Once drives get down below 20% users should be defragmenting more regularly, doing their best to shift unnecessary stuff off the drive, and thinking about upgrading their drives to a larger one. They will need to be cautious about any activity which involves the use of very large files and are likely to see substantial performance degradation when they do so.
4) once they get below 10% it is definitely time for a bigger drive if they can't at least get back above the 20% free level. They will also need to defragment after freeing up the necessary space.
In your case your symptoms are typical of an overfull, badly fragmented, drive. You need to free up quite a bit more room, defragment the drive, and organise getting a bigger one installed.
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