ID3 Tags, Organizer & Player & M

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I name my mp3's for example
0 W. K. Mahler - Freedom - W. K. Mahler.mp3
Your ID3 Tag reader reads the above as
Track 0.mp3
Track 0.mp3 is exactly what is read in the organizier and player (the most updated versions for Audigy 2 ZS).
Do you honestly expect me to go in and edit 9 gigabytes of audio files? No.
How do I/we work around this?
BTW,
There really is no competition regarding your easy install cards (PCI) here on Cape Cod, MA. USA. Other than integrated audio (and I never find your products intergrated.) ...Do you make intergrated audio in desktops?
Finally,
At least one dozen independent/small and large makers of audio players for PC/MAC are including decode/encode and or just play of .shn and .flac files.
Do you there at Creative Labs already have "codecs" to be downloaded and installed or are you planning on a major upgrade for audio format compatability. How about video as well?
WKMahler
mahlers.com

You have not tagged those mp3 files showing tag information as Track nn.
Try w/ MediaMonkey --> Auto-Tag from Filename -feature.
- http://www.mediamonkey.com
jutapaMessage Edited by jutapa on 09-3-2006 0:56 PM

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What version of ID3 tags does the zen xfi use?

I spend more time re-starting my player, and watching the rebuilding progress bar (only for it to fail) than I do actually listening to the **bleep** thing.
I use media monkey to manage my files, and I've set it to only write id3v2. mp3tag reports these as id3v2.3. In the belief and hope that the problem with the player is corrupt tags (which I don't think ought to cause a problem if it were built properly) I've spent hours making sure they're all tidy, cross-checking with mp3tag.
This failed to stop my player crashing several times a day. I reluctantly brought creative media centrale out of retirement to check the tags. This reported that a few of the files had bad tags, although there was nothing visibly different about them in media monkey or mp3tag. When I used the automatic 'fix tags' function in centrale, mp3tag reported that it wrote id3v tags.
So, as per the subject line, does anyone know what version of id3 tags the player actually supports?

i really have no problems with this one. but i still am interested with the a detailed answer to this one too.
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Problem with track order (ID3 tags) when transfering from ZENcast Organizer = Vision:M 3

Hi there, I am using ZENcast Organizer V.2.00.4 and my Zen Vision:M's firmware version is V..6.0e
Okay, I have a time consuming problem with the way my podcasts are organized on my player. When i download my podcast from ZENcast Organizer everything is neatly organized. By that i mean that the tracks are positioned in the order in which they were released by the radioshow. Let me just give you a picture : [IMG]ttp://img530.imageshack.us/img530/4476/zencastbv4.jpg[/IMG]you can see that after the 27th comes the 28th and the 29th etc. That is also the way i would want the files to be played on my player, but unfortunately they are not.
Here is a pic of what the order looks like on my player after i have transfered some of the podcasts . Since there are no ID3 tags concerning track number, the player seems to sort the files alphabetically, which is a hassle for me as i have to search through my tracks each time I would like to listen to the following show.
The way that I have dealt with it until now is to download the tracks with ZENcast Organizer and then add the track number information with Media Monkey and then upload them to the player via Zencast Organizer. That is a lengthy and annoying process and since i have missed the show (due to my new work) for 4 month now, i have a lot of files that i must edit.
So I was just wondering if there is an easier method? I was thinking in the lines of a plugin for ZENcast Organizer that would add track number information? I wouldn't care if it numbers them 2 3 4 or 2 22 23 24 just as long as they come in the chronologically right order when i play them.

I did some testing and discovered that ZENcast Organizer indeed does know how to sort the files on my player so that they are played in the right order - under the transfer you just have to check the box which makes ZENcast Organizer convert the music (mp3) files into videofiles as shown in the picture: http://img50.imageshack.us/img50/439...ransferar5.jpg
This makes my player play them in the right order as shown here:
But i do not want player to be spending a huge amount of unnecessary power on showing a screen I am not going to be looking at.... my podcast is a radio show, there is nothing to LOOK at, literally.
Why on earth does ZENcast not change the filename when i choose to download the shows in their nati've mp3 form but only when I convert them to video?

Zen mx 16gb player not recognising id3 tags.

,zen mx 6gb player not recognising id3 tags.I recently bought a zen mx and so far can not get it to recognise over half of my mp3's id3 tags. All of the files are drm free. All of the unrecognised files will play but get stuck in the unknown artist unknown album catagory on the player. I have tried retagging the files in several diffrent tagging softwares and upgraded my player to the newest firmware and nothing seems to work. I had a creative vision m 30gb before I had this player and it never had this problem. I contacted customer support but they didnt seem to have any idea what an Id3 tag was and offered no relavent advice other then upgrade your firmware witch was upsetting to say the least. If anyone has any idea how to fix this that would be awesome. I feel like I just wasted almost 80 dollars.

0Re: zen mx 6gb player not recognising id3 tags. It's just aggravating because I used to talk the company up all the time. The older creative zen's where awesome. They played every file that I had with the exclusion of open source formats like ogg witch is understandable because I'm sure that there is not much demand for that.
I wouldn't be half as upset as I am if I felt like the support people where offering decent suggestions or even an explanation of what may be wrong. I mean are there certain id3 tags that are not recognised? At least try to explain why it may not work to me so that I can fix the problem without having to re-tag every cd that I have purchased since I was fourteen. I don't think I'm going to buy anything from them again until I see that the quality of there products is getting better. Maybe I should write a review on Amazon to warn people away, after all the majority of the music that its having problems with was downloaded from Amazon.com.
Btw if your haning the same problem as me kid3 is a program that will retag your files to this players satisfaction. Not that helps if you have a large volume of music but its at least something.

[SOLVED] ID3 tags not registering on MP3 Player

I just got a new MP3 player, and some of the ID3 tags that I've set on my music don't register. I have some other songs that were set on a Windows computer; these show up perfectly find. Every tag editor I've ever used has this problem.
What is a way to convert the ID3 tags into a format that my mp3 player (a coby MP826-8G) will be able to understand?
EDIT: Duh, I was using id3v2 instead of id3v1. Apparently most hardware music players don't read id3v2 yet.
Last edited by ProfessorProcrastinator (2014-05-17 23:54:20)

indeed, the tracks do have both v1.x and v2.x tags. Obviously, iTunes only accepts v1.1 tags. v2.x tags or mp3, who have both tags attached, will not be displayed in iTunes.
I have deleted the v2.x from the problem mp3-files using the "mp3tag" - tool. After re-importing the files into iTunes,
everything was fine.
Thanks,
Frankya

Cyrillic ID3 tags in Music Player

I have a n82 and love it, but I tried to loaded a cd album which contains Russian ID3, but when i try to view the artist,song,album names in the phones built-in music player all I see is weird characters as though my phone doesn't support non-Unicode text. I know for a fact that it displays files with Russian taext in the file name just fine and writes and read in Russian just fine but the ID3 tags are a bit tricky for it.
What can I do to make the music player display Russian ID3 tags properly?

as i know, sans serif doesnt provide unicode mapping. have you tried to change to arial unicode or others eg. code2000??
I'm using arial unicode ms to show japanese symbols,and it should work for cyrillic too,since cyrillic is also mapped in arial unicode. font changing is also affect in all app (i suppose), including java app.
my N73 ME APAC (indonesia) is only able to display latin chars,n by changing the font (that is supports unicode one), now my phone is able to show japanese symbol (including ID3 tag in music player).
Message Edited by hikku13 on 08-Jul-2008 05:38 PM

Car Menu Music Player - ID3 Tags

Hello,
I am using the car menu v2.6 on my E51. I am wondering which ID3-Tag version is supported. Does anybody know that?
What about v2.8 beta, which versions are supported here?
Thanks,
Jones

Hi Diavonex. Yes I was aware of this option.
Subsequently I have done a litle research and downloaded a music app called "Track 8" which has a much clearer interface (larger type) and the abillity to change the background colour to dark or light.
This is much more readable in the car in bright light, and much better at night too.
You can also turn off auto-lock within the application, which is great, as it doesn't affect other apps.
Although this app is really only an interface sitting on top of the music app, it offers a much better experience
in my opinion that the stock player which seems to have devolved rather than evolved.

Music Player with ID3 Tag Feature

Any application that has ID3 tag feature? I can't stay in front of my PC all the time to change and organize all my music files properly. I prefer organize them via my 5800, so, I can do it anytime. Yes, 5800 has its own 'song details' feature. But it's only temporary. If I formatted my memory card, all the details are gone, and I have to organize them again!
Solved!
Go to Solution.

I think you're missing the point here. Of course when you format the memory card, all data is deleted. Hence it would make sense to perform a backup of your memory card contents onto your computer before formatting the memory card. Easiest way to do this is to copy everything from the memory card (i.e. displayed as Removable Disk in Windows) to your hard drive on your computer. Then when the format is complete, copy the songs back to your memory card. That way, all the ID3 tags for songs that you modified on your phone will be restored to the memory card.
If you found this or someone's comments helpful or like what that person has to say, please give some Kudos to their post!

How can I put ID3-Tag info into my MIDI songs

http://www.mp3machine.com/software/IDTunes/ says: "idTunes fixes those missing or wrong ID3 tags automatically, once and for all. Systematize, organize, remove duplicates and correct irregularites in your music collection, even add lyrics. Once and for all clean up your MP3 song collection without having to spend weeks typing and checking the info." but that's OS X and my computers can't run it
In Quicktime Player Pro when I get-properties then create annotations they only show up in QuickTime player - I need a method to embed them in the file so that in WindowsMediaSlayer the author, URL, title, length, recorded date, artists on track and such can be displayed.
Is there a version of QuicktimePlayerPro (for OS 9) that will let me export or save-as MIDI file so that WMP will 1) read the file and 2) recognize the annotations as ID3-Tags?
SOMEONE has to look out for the recognition of music creators and talented performers!
Thank you very much for this forum to ask my questions, and thank you dearly in advance for your answers.
Sincerely,
Teo

Teo4...
OK, I have a big heart...
Yep! And me too, which is why I'm sharing this 1/2 solution!
"Artly There" has forums, real Applish looking! Well, in a topic there:
http://www.artlythere.com/cgi-bin/forum/Blah.pl?m-1154280348/s-0/#num3
I got this lead:
From: http://www.harmony-central.com/Software/Mac/midi.html
I got MIDI Kit 2.7.1, I think it has put these tags in correctly:
1. Full Song Name
2. Copyright
3. Author
To see if it worked: http://givnology.com/eve/forums/a/ga/ul/8341026442/WhatYouSynco.mid
This is also all in my site's discussions here: http://givnology.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/80560593/m/7641057422 well the easy way is:
http://Givnology.com/music and click the "First try MIDI" topic. I wanted to let you know that I did find at least THIS MUCH of a solution...
In the © tag I put some good relational database type cross indexables.... yay!

Changing ID3 tags and replacing tra

I'm playing with my new Xtra and enjoying it. I will want to jigger many of the tags to organize the genres and artists better.
) The software stored the albums (as I requested) under Artist/Album. If I shift an album under a different artist name, I assume it will not automatically change the tags for the artist. (For instance, I have a few "Elvis Costello" and a few "Elvis Costello and the Imposters"... I want them all under the same artist name).
2) Can I change the basic tags (Artist, Album, Genre and even Track #) using Create MediaSource Organizer, or should I download a decent/free ID3 tag program recommended on various guru FAQs?
3) Here's my real question: Once I alter the tag on a track I've already loaded onto the player, I will want to replace it with the updated tags. If I re-transfer, will it overlay the tracks with the updated ones -- or will it create duplicates? Do I need to delete the album or tracks from my player before sending them back over?
Thanks
Michael

zmulls wrote:I figured the PC was easier to change tags. Just for the typing (!)
Well you can only edit tags using the PC. I meant with respect to which data source you use, the player itself (when connected to the PC) or the files on the PC's hard dri've.
The "move" would be just taking a subfolder ("album") and moving under a different "artist" folder -- in Explorer. I figured also that I'd still have to change the tags (the ripping program reads the tags and creates the directories, but I assumed the intelligence doesn't go another way).
Ah right. Yes, you have to change the tags themselves. It doesn't automatically realise the folder has changed, although you can get many programs which will use folder and filename data to generate the tag.
So I should grab a tagging program, and plan to "Delete From Player" and "Re-Transfer From PC." Not as bad as it sounds, as I can delete whole albums at once from the Player.
It's certainly the method I use. It really depends on what approach suits you.
I saw the list of tag programs on your FAQ -- are the "free" ones good enough? Is there a real advantage in the shareware or paid programs (other than the one you cite on Nomadsync).
I've never bought a tag editing program, and have used 2 or 3. I prefer overall though, but some don't like the UI. Best to check some out.
Nomadsync is listed in the programs to copy files. Remember that Nomadsync is not a tag editor, it's a program for copying files.

ID3 tags and itunes refusing to add music to library

As my music collection is growing, I decided to organize it a bit more and fill in the different ID3 tags in windows.
I have emptied my itunes library before I did all this, and after changing the ID3 tags I added the different albums back to itunes.
However, for some reason itunes does not want to import several albums anymore, while they do play in windows media player. Furthermore, itunes refuses in many cases to make use of the new ID3 tags I made. Even after uninstalling and reinstalling itunes, itunes seems to remember my settings and the ID3 tags the different MP3s had before.
Anyone a clue what is happening here? Has it someting to do with the new version of itunes, or is it something else?
ciao, Gregorius

Hey, first of all, thanks for your help, but I'm still in problems.
I have noticed that itunes imports the music files before I alter the ID3 tags (from backup files). However, as soon as I try to add the same file to my itunes library after I have edited the ID3 file (via windows itself), itunes does not add the file to its library anymore. This is happening to a considerable amount of my music. When I try to play the same files in windows mediaplayer, they play without a problem, so I guess the problem is with itunes.
Somebody can please help me out, because I like to be in control of my music, and not itunes,
adios Gregorius

ITunes not reading ID3 tags correctly

I have an album of mp3s, all correctly ID3 tagged (WinAMP and Windows Media Player read them fine), and when I try to add it into my iTunes library, it only add it as the filename. It does not read the artist, album, or track name from the tag.
It is strange that it is able to read some of the id3 tags but not all.
iTunes 6.0.4 Windows XP Pro

Something else on your system is probably changing the tag outside of itunes. For instance, WMP is set to get album info from the internet.
iTunes isn't constantly scanning your library for any little tag change (a good thing, otherwise it would use 100% CPU all the time). When you go to play it or get Info, it DOES read the tag info.
Then again, I might not understand your itunes preferences settings. I have mine set for itunes not to organize my files and not add them to the itunes library.

ID3 Tags on Zen Mi

I use MP3Tag to tag all my mp3's, and the Zen Micro media explorer to transfer them. But for some reason, my TRACK ID3 tags go AWOL after transfer. This also occurs in the Audio Converter - help?

There is a newer MediaSource v3.30.2, although the latest version also cannot read Unicode track number. nevertheless, it has fixed a few other tag issues. So, it is worth the upgrade.
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Here is what you should do:
- Download and install the latest Creative MediaSource Player/Organizer 3.30.2 from your product download site. Make sure that you install this first before installing the rest of the MediaSource plugins listed below.
- (Depending on your product and firmware)
For non-PlaysForSure Zen series: Download and install the latest Creative Zen and NOMAD Jukebox plugin 2.00.20 for Creative MediaSource from your product download site.
or:
For PlaysForSure Zen Micro: Download and install the latest Creative MediaSource Plugin for PlaysForSure devices (version .00.8) from your product download site.

Creative Mediasource ID3 Tags - Edit more than one year at a ti

I use a 60gb Zen Xtra with Mediasource. I take pride in the ID3 tags of all my files especially those of my Jazz collection and my player is well organised. The only thing I have to ask is - is there any way of editing the year of, say, an entire album that was recorded in 959 for example all at the same time. It lets me do this for Artist, Album and Genre but not year. Is there any upgrade in software I can get or am I just missing something here?
Thanks in advance for your input,Matt

Shucks, I tried and you can't seem to do it. A curious oversight.
You can either use another copying program like which will let you do it, or simply get a mass tagger (but you will need to edit the tracks on the PC first, then copy). For some mass tagger recommendations look here in the Zen FAQ at Nomadness.net.

Archiving cds and why do i need id3 tags

here comes another one of those questions looking at which codec to use to store music.....i also have tag questions.....
i'm about to (re-)rip my cd collection and looking at some info re codecs and id3 tags
now.....i believe i understand the benefits of alac (lower file sizes, keeping id3 tags, lossless compression) v wav(no compression)
however (and for some out there) if we just entertain the fact that wav may have some minute benefit for me depending on my questions and answers given.....and yes i know wav and alac will sound the same to the human ear - i accept that as a given of lossless compression ......
points i'd like to outline:
i am looking to rip my cds, firstly and mostly, for an archiving purpose!! purpose numero uno!!
i could well want to re-create cds with these archived records in the future
size of files is of no concern to me at all
i'm using a mac nowadays
i will convert most of these files, where needed, to use with a portable music player (i'm not bothered with having, say a wav file and then also converting and having an alac file, as crazy as that sounds)
this is where i ask for info re the benefits of embedded tags that are found in alac:
are these tags that important?
where do they come into play in ripping and later converting music?
are these uses just bells and whistles that have no benefit to my needs?
if i rip cds to wav (or aiff), say, using itunes, will cd info and track listings be available on the downloading database (eg itunes) to name these wav files?
if i then ensure these song files are kept under the album's folder, have i just done what tags do? surely not. that is all i have needed in the past.
this is where i feel i may be really missing what id tags (can) do
are tags more than just managing song files and where they belong and where they have come from?
is it just a convenience of not personally managing your song files (as per previous paragraph)?
(in the past i had ripped cds to mp3 codec. i think i used "cd rip" or something like that on my pc.
my mp3 files were individually named and sorted and kept under album folders under artist name folders.
apart form the very odd occasion all track and album info i needed was found on a database that was attached to the ripping software.
i never had a problem managing/maintaining these files and folders.)
i welcome some enlightenment on some of my questions above and other info that may be relevant
and yes, i understand that music will sound the same as a wav file or alac file - but humour me re using wav and tell me why i need id3 tags
i guess the crux of it is:
why do i need id3 tags?
does my managing of my song file in the album folder do what tags do?
what problems/shortcomings/headaches may i encounter by not having those tags if i use wav as opposed to alac?
what do i not know about these little buggers?
what codec is best for my purpose of archiving and re creating of cds (for playing in cd players)
thanks in advance for your input and any clarity that i may experience through this
peter t
excuse my long windedness (i have spent some time editing this entry)

Crows2012 wrote:
as mentioned earlier if i just have songs (wav) in album folders, when i import these albums into itunes, do you know if these will come up under AN album with their file names purely using my filename setup (but with no artwork)?
Yes, iTunes will read the filename, such as "Track 1" or something else and display it. But nothing else. No Album or Artist.
so the tracks will remain grouped as an album based on their initial folder and the albums and tracks as per file name?
Crows2012 wrote:
also, does aiff have limitations (apart from the full size of the file)?
I'm not sure I understand what you mean. For all practical purposes AIFF and WAV are exactly the same thing. They're just file containers.
i thought that i had read somewhere that aiff tags could run into some issues with its tags - ie may not always be transferred 100% accurately with certain players (or hardware maybe)
Crows2012 wrote:
and how do these codecs work re-creating an album for the purposes of playing in a cd player? - this is a crucial question for the purpose of my archiving/backup of CDs THEMSELVES
That's actually going to depend on what burning software you use. Once you rip the tracks to whatever file container you choose (WAV/AIFF/ALAC) you'll never really exactly re-create the album. But for archiving purposes all three file containers will do what you want, which is to create a lossless archive. AIFF has the advantage of supporting embedded ID3, which ALAC has the additional advantage of the files also being about half the size of AIFF/WAV files.
i was thinking that maybe wav was able to recreate an album (in effect duplicate one) if my cd was lost or damaged in the future. i was thinking this IF when ripping to wav everything is unchanged (unless there is other data on the original cd). and maybe only possible with wav. the purpose for this would be to play recreated cds on my cd player
any idea on this one?
(i havent looked too thoroughly on this angle but i'll keep googling on this one)
much appreciate all info thus far
peter t

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