Idle Oracle DB connection through ACE dropped after 1 hour

Hi folks,
I'm looking for some ideas how to troubleshoot a problem we're having with an Oracle App.
What we are finding is that when a request takes more than an hour for the Oracle DB to process the connection is being dropped.
When wireshark is used at DB server interface we see nothing for an hour and then a single packet RST,ACK with the source identified as the App Server.
We have an App server farm that is behind an ACE module that is in bridging mode. The DB server is on another VLAN so the path the traffic takes is from the App Svr through the ACE from the back to the frontside vlan, through the 6506's MSFC to be routed to the DB server.
Path like this:
Appserver|-->VL203-->|ACE|-->VL202-->|L3 Switch|-->VL200-->|DB Server
If we move the App server to Vlan 202 in front of the ACE the process carries on to completion (after 75 mins).
Is there anything in the ACE settings that could cause the connection to be dropped after an hour for traffic that should simply be being bridged through?
Any suggestions as to where to look next would be appreciated.
TIA
Zac

OK Gilles, I'll look at that in the morning. However, this is where it gets interesting.
We have DB servers on two other VLANs routed by the same switch. The connections to those DB servers don't get cut off after an hour (In the connection path I outlined swap VLAN 200 for VLAN 50 or VLAN 205) One of them is even behind the ACE in a different server farm.
Zac

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Jun 7 02:33:14 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=3!
Jun 7 02:33:22 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=4!
Jun 7 02:33:22 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=5!
Jun 7 02:33:22 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=6!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=7!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=8!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=9!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=10!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=11!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=12!
Jun 7 02:33:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=13!
Jun 7 02:33:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=14!
Jun 7 02:33:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=15!
Jun 7 02:33:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=16!
Jun 7 02:33:32 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=17!
Jun 7 02:33:32 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=18!
Jun 7 02:33:32 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=19!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=20!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=21!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=22!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=23!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=24!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=25!
Jun 7 02:33:33 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=26!
Jun 7 02:33:34 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=27!
Jun 7 02:33:34 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=28!
Jun 7 02:33:34 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=29!
Jun 7 02:33:42 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=30!
Jun 7 02:33:42 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=31!
Jun 7 02:33:42 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=32!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=33!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=34!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=35!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=36!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=37!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=38!
Jun 7 02:33:43 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=39!
Jun 7 02:33:44 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=40!
Jun 7 02:33:44 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=41!
Jun 7 02:33:44 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=42!
Jun 7 02:33:52 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=43!
Jun 7 02:33:52 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=44!
Jun 7 02:33:52 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=45!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=46!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=47!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=48!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=49!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=50!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=51!
Jun 7 02:33:53 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=52!
Jun 7 02:33:54 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=53!
Jun 7 02:33:54 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=54!
Jun 7 02:33:54 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=55!
Jun 7 02:34:02 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=56!
Jun 7 02:34:02 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=57!
Jun 7 02:34:02 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=58!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=59!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=60!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=61!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=62!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=63!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=64!
Jun 7 02:34:03 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=65!
Jun 7 02:34:04 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=66!
Jun 7 02:34:04 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=67!
Jun 7 02:34:04 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=68!
Jun 7 02:34:12 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=69!
Jun 7 02:34:12 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=70!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=71!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=72!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=73!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=74!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=75!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=76!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=77!
Jun 7 02:34:13 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=78!
Jun 7 02:34:14 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=79!
Jun 7 02:34:14 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=80!
Jun 7 02:34:14 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=81!
Jun 7 02:34:22 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=82!
Jun 7 02:34:22 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=83!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=84!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=85!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=86!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=87!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=88!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=89!
Jun 7 02:34:23 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=90!
Jun 7 02:34:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=91!
Jun 7 02:34:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=92!
Jun 7 02:34:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=93!
Jun 7 02:34:24 arch kernel: Qidx(0), not enough space in MgmtRing, MgmtRingFullCount=94!
Thanks in advance to anyone helping me! I really really want to get Arch going. It's ideal for this laptop, no wasting of disk space, ressource friendly, the temperature doesn't go up as much with less cpu usage I guess..
I've written quite a bit, but hopefully this makes it easier for you to help me! I've included all I thought which could be useful.
Greetings from Germany,
Fenris

The easiest solution might be to setup NetCfg somehow with your wifi card and access point. Have you tried that? Can you find your card's chipset on the wiki?(chances are that your particular chipset will need a firmware put into /lib/firmware. Again that's found on the wiki on the NetCfg or Wifi page, I forget which sorry.) Those are two places where I'd look for good information.
By the way, your rc.conf is way out of date. You should look at updating it by using the recent rc.conf.pacnew file that you'll find in the /etc directory.

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