IDOC to Mutiple receivers - Serialization

Hi,
I have a requirement that IDOCs from R3 has to sent to multiple receivers..and at the same time IDOC serialization has to be maintained.
For eg: ORDERS.ORDERS01---IDOC1
            ORDCHG.ORDERS01---IDOC2
             ORDERS.ORDERS01---IDOC1
            ORDCHG.ORDERS01---IDOC2
             ORDERS.ORDERS01---IDOC1
            ORDCHG.ORDERS01---IDOC2
As mentioned all IDOC1 should be received by RECV1 and all IDOC2 by RECV2.
and we have to maintain the serialization all over.(FIFO)
1) What actions should have to perform to maintain the serialization at R3 side and PI side.
2) Can i configure this scenario in Integrated Seanrio (AAE).
Regards
Sekhar

@Aashish & Sachin
Thanks for ur reply..
In the mentioned link,it is not for the multiple receivers and can you plz let me know if this scenario can be configured for AAE.
What are the steps to be followed to maintain serialization at the PI side .
How serialization can be maintained in the case of the multiple receivers?
Thanks for the reply..
Regards
Sekhar

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>
> Source
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>
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>
> I have queries reg Advanced Adapter Engine (AAE):
>
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