Idoc to SOAP Async - Sync - stuck @ bpm bridge

Hi there,
i'm implementing an SAP -
Idoc / Async ---> PI -
> Soap / Sync communication, the idea is that i update the Idoc Status back on erp using and status idoc, i got the whole scenenario working but the Async - Sync bridge part with the status idoc, i've been reading a lot but i cant seem to find a good tutorial that helps me implement the bridge, i found this tutorial :
https://wiki.sdn.sap.com/wiki/display/XI/File-RFC-File%28Without%20BPM%29
do you guys think i can make a workround so i dont have to do a bridge, because performance is a BIG issue on this scenario and i've read that BPM degrades performance,
Thanks in advance for all the input ill get
Best Regards,
Roberto.

Hi Roberto,
Idoc doesnot support the synchrnous call. What you can do is send an ALEAUD IDOCs back as response. Please see this document for this:
https://www.sdn.sap.com/irj/scn/go/portal/prtroot/docs/library/uuid/f6d2d790-0201-0010-9382-b50b499b3fbe?overridelayout=true
/people/saravanakumar.kuppusamy2/blog/2005/01/20/configuration-tips-for-a-business-serviceintegration-process-to-send-back-ale-audit-idoc
Also search in SDN for ALEAUD and you may get some more information.
Regards,
---Satish

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