Idoc to Webservice using BPM

Hi
I am using the BPM for the IDOC to Webservice Synchronous Scenarion...
When i trigger the IDOC from SAP it stuck in the Queue ...when i checked in the SXMB_MONI and when i clicked in PE it taking me to the INbound Queue ..
When i opened the Queue its showing the SYSFAIL ..and when i double click on that its shoes me Permanent ERRor in BPE Inbound Processing..
In BPM i used the Receive and Send Synchronous and Send Asynch steps ..
Did i miss Any thing
SV

HI,
I think for IDOC to Webservice you are going for Async to Sync bridge with BPM and have the similar steps as mentioned in below link.
Asyn - Synch BPM - Async/Sync Communication using JMS adapter without BPM (SP 19)
If there is some other flow plz let me know. Also let me know the exact error that you are facing with it.
Thanks
Swarup

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