IDVD & Double Layer

Hey there,
IDVD 5 & Double Layer can take 240 min. of a movie. Why finished my IDVD burner by 130 min.? I have a 199 min. movie in Quick time and the burning process finished aver 130 min.? Whats wrong? What do I have to do to burn my whole movie on one DVD? Is it possible to burn a 199 min. movie on one DVD?
Thanx for helping me.
crunch

Hi Sue,
thats not the problem. I can't bring my 199 min. movie on the 240 min. DL DVD+R.
What can I do, that the movie fits into it?
thanx for help

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