IMac freeze issue - Genius Bar

I took my iMac in which has frozen over 20 times in 2 days. This makes my computer nearly unusable (and I only use it about 4-5 hours a day).
I went to the store at the Beverly Center in Los Angeles, CA. The Genius named Mindy said she never heard of the issue and that without replication, she wouldn't be able to help me. She ended up setting up a standard Apple diagnostic test for me (basic hardware test for any computer brought in) but that required my computer to be left there for 2 days. I decided to pass (an when I run the hardware tests, everything passes fine.)
Here are a few things she said:
-I pointed out the discussions and she said, well you can never go by those because people will complain for anything.
-She kept insisting this issue was specific to Leopard even though I had the issue with Tiger. Everytime I reminded her she said Apple will release a patch to fix it.
-She said it was a coincidence that so many people were complaining at once, and if anything, it was a software issue from Leopard.
-She said if it was a hardware issue, it was most likely bad RAM. I then said or a bad video card and she said, no because that is attached to the logic board. What the ?? Didn't make sense to me either.
I don't think she really cared to help me out and sounded robotic with her responses.
Anyways, I'm going to have to find a store where they have "heard" of the issue and don't deny it. It might be easier than trying to replicate a nasty random bug.

Wow! You got one of the few bad iMacs AND one of the few bad genius'. Now THAT's unlucky!
I just took my freezing iMac to Apple at Yorkdale in Toronto Canada. The young lady tech was very nice however hadn't heard of the issue. I had anticipated this so beforehand I took the liberty of formatting the hard drive and installing ONLY Leopard (no 1.3 update, no apps). I verified the freeze on next restart then packed up the machine and took it in. The aim was to demonstrate how a) the virgin installation freezes, and b) the update 1.3 actually makes it worse (knowing they'd try the update). Everything went like clockwork, froze on cover flowing the apps folder, then she installed the update and I could barely GET to the apps folder. I explained I get artifacts when watching movies then often either freezes or goes to black screen. She promptly ordered a new graphics card and I left the machine with them. Will chime in with the results next week when I get it back.
It took so long waiting for my appointment I was able to rigorously test every iMac in the store. They all worked just fine and seemed zippier than I expected (significant?). So if I got lines like that Genius Mindy in LA I'd be use that to illustrate your iMac must work with Leopard so it's their problem. But happily my Apple genius was A-O-KAY.

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